Rents are confusing me…

[temeculaguy]

[quote=esmith]Here’s an interesting observation:

Murrieta to San Diego: 129
San Diego to Murrieta: 179

Riverside to Los Angeles: 97
Los Angeles to Riverside: 141

Stockton to San Jose: 88
San Jose to Stockton: 160

[/quote]

esmith, it is interesting but there is an explanation. As discussed on another thread a month ago, Murrieta is now the hottest R/E market in the country according to forbes, not because prices are going up but because they are coming down. The 60% off sale is working. If S.D. would knock another 25-30% off the prices tomorrow, everything would sell and uhaul wouldn’t know where to park all the trucks, they better act soon or all the cash on the sidelines will be spent.

[Nor-LA-SD-guy]

[quote=temeculaguy][quote=esmith]Here’s an interesting observation:

Murrieta to San Diego: 129
San Diego to Murrieta: 179

Riverside to Los Angeles: 97
Los Angeles to Riverside: 141

Stockton to San Jose: 88
San Jose to Stockton: 160

[/quote]

esmith, it is interesting but there is an explanation. As discussed on another thread a month ago, Murrieta is now the hottest R/E market in the country according to forbes, not because prices are going up but because they are coming down. The 60% off sale is working. If S.D. would knock another 25-30% off the prices tomorrow, everything would sell and uhaul wouldn’t know where to park all the trucks, they better act soon or all the cash on the sidelines will be spent.[/quote]

Yes being able to buy in say Clarsbad without a Paradise tax (premium) would be great , maybe it will happen who knows,

I just don’t think it likely unless everything really goes to sh*t for several more years.

but then unless you own your home out right you would be likely to be living on the street at somepoint anyway regardless if you were a FB or not.

[Nor-LA-SD-guy]

[quote=temeculaguy][quote=esmith]Here’s an interesting observation:

Murrieta to San Diego: 129
San Diego to Murrieta: 179

Riverside to Los Angeles: 97
Los Angeles to Riverside: 141

Stockton to San Jose: 88
San Jose to Stockton: 160

[/quote]

esmith, it is interesting but there is an explanation. As discussed on another thread a month ago, Murrieta is now the hottest R/E market in the country according to forbes, not because prices are going up but because they are coming down. The 60% off sale is working. If S.D. would knock another 25-30% off the prices tomorrow, everything would sell and uhaul wouldn’t know where to park all the trucks, they better act soon or all the cash on the sidelines will be spent.[/quote]

Yes being able to buy in say Clarsbad without a Paradise tax (premium) would be great , maybe it will happen who knows,

I just don’t think it likely unless everything really goes to sh*t for several more years.

but then unless you own your home out right you would be likely to be living on the street at somepoint anyway regardless if you were a FB or not.

[Nor-LA-SD-guy]

[quote=temeculaguy][quote=esmith]Here’s an interesting observation:

Murrieta to San Diego: 129
San Diego to Murrieta: 179

Riverside to Los Angeles: 97
Los Angeles to Riverside: 141

Stockton to San Jose: 88
San Jose to Stockton: 160

[/quote]

esmith, it is interesting but there is an explanation. As discussed on another thread a month ago, Murrieta is now the hottest R/E market in the country according to forbes, not because prices are going up but because they are coming down. The 60% off sale is working. If S.D. would knock another 25-30% off the prices tomorrow, everything would sell and uhaul wouldn’t know where to park all the trucks, they better act soon or all the cash on the sidelines will be spent.[/quote]

Yes being able to buy in say Clarsbad without a Paradise tax (premium) would be great , maybe it will happen who knows,

I just don’t think it likely unless everything really goes to sh*t for several more years.

but then unless you own your home out right you would be likely to be living on the street at somepoint anyway regardless if you were a FB or not.

[Nor-LA-SD-guy]

[quote=temeculaguy][quote=esmith]Here’s an interesting observation:

Murrieta to San Diego: 129
San Diego to Murrieta: 179

Riverside to Los Angeles: 97
Los Angeles to Riverside: 141

Stockton to San Jose: 88
San Jose to Stockton: 160

[/quote]

esmith, it is interesting but there is an explanation. As discussed on another thread a month ago, Murrieta is now the hottest R/E market in the country according to forbes, not because prices are going up but because they are coming down. The 60% off sale is working. If S.D. would knock another 25-30% off the prices tomorrow, everything would sell and uhaul wouldn’t know where to park all the trucks, they better act soon or all the cash on the sidelines will be spent.[/quote]

Yes being able to buy in say Clarsbad without a Paradise tax (premium) would be great , maybe it will happen who knows,

I just don’t think it likely unless everything really goes to sh*t for several more years.

but then unless you own your home out right you would be likely to be living on the street at somepoint anyway regardless if you were a FB or not.

[Nor-LA-SD-guy]

[quote=temeculaguy][quote=esmith]Here’s an interesting observation:

Murrieta to San Diego: 129
San Diego to Murrieta: 179

Riverside to Los Angeles: 97
Los Angeles to Riverside: 141

Stockton to San Jose: 88
San Jose to Stockton: 160

[/quote]

esmith, it is interesting but there is an explanation. As discussed on another thread a month ago, Murrieta is now the hottest R/E market in the country according to forbes, not because prices are going up but because they are coming down. The 60% off sale is working. If S.D. would knock another 25-30% off the prices tomorrow, everything would sell and uhaul wouldn’t know where to park all the trucks, they better act soon or all the cash on the sidelines will be spent.[/quote]

Yes being able to buy in say Clarsbad without a Paradise tax (premium) would be great , maybe it will happen who knows,

I just don’t think it likely unless everything really goes to sh*t for several more years.

but then unless you own your home out right you would be likely to be living on the street at somepoint anyway regardless if you were a FB or not.

[Casca]

[quote=Nor-LA-SD-guy]Maybe people could just be moving back to their home town’s , to me now that would make some sense.

When you are in trouble, you fall back to base camp.
[/quote]

That is a traditional demographic pattern. People return to their roots, dogs to their vomit.

AS I PASS through my incarnations in every age and race,
I make my proper prostrations to the Gods of the Market Place.
Peering through reverent fingers I watch them flourish and fall,
And the Gods of the Copybook Headings, I notice, outlast them all.

We were living in trees when they met us. They showed us each in turn
That Water would certainly wet us, as Fire would certainly burn:
But we found them lacking in Uplift, Vision and Breadth of Mind,
So we left them to teach the Gorillas while we followed the March of Mankind.

We moved as the Spirit listed. They never altered their pace,
Being neither cloud nor wind-borne like the Gods of the Market Place,
But they always caught up with our progress, and presently word would come
That a tribe had been wiped off its icefield, or the lights had gone out in Rome.

With the Hopes that our World is built on they were utterly out of touch,
They denied that the Moon was Stilton; they denied she was even Dutch;
They denied that Wishes were Horses; they denied that a Pig had Wings;
So we worshipped the Gods of the Market Who promised these beautiful things.

When the Cambrian measures were forming, They promised perpetual peace.
They swore, if we gave them our weapons, that the wars of the tribes would cease.
But when we disarmed They sold us and delivered us bound to our foe,
And the Gods of the Copybook Headings said: “Stick to the Devil you know.”

On the first Feminian Sandstones we were promised the Fuller Life
(Which started by loving our neighbour and ended by loving his wife)
Till our women had no more children and the men lost reason and faith,
And the Gods of the Copybook Headings said: “The Wages of Sin is Death.”

In the Carboniferous Epoch we were promised abundance for all,
By robbing selected Peter to pay for collective Paul;
But, though we had plenty of money, there was nothing our money could buy,
And the Gods of the Copybook Headings said: “If you don’t work you die.”

Then the Gods of the Market tumbled, and their smooth-tongued wizards withdrew
And the hearts of the meanest were humbled and began to believe it was true
That All is not Gold that Glitters, and Two and Two make Four
And the Gods of the Copybook Headings limped up to explain it once more.

As it will be in the future, it was at the birth of Man
There are only four things certain since Social Progress began.
That the Dog returns to his Vomit and the Sow returns to her Mire,
And the burnt Fool’s bandaged finger goes wabbling back to the Fire;

And that after this is accomplished, and the brave new world begins
When all men are paid for existing and no man must pay for his sins,
As surely as Water will wet us, as surely as Fire will burn,
The Gods of the Copybook Headings with terror and slaughter return! ~Kipling

[Casca]

[quote=Nor-LA-SD-guy]Maybe people could just be moving back to their home town’s , to me now that would make some sense.

When you are in trouble, you fall back to base camp.
[/quote]

That is a traditional demographic pattern. People return to their roots, dogs to their vomit.

AS I PASS through my incarnations in every age and race,
I make my proper prostrations to the Gods of the Market Place.
Peering through reverent fingers I watch them flourish and fall,
And the Gods of the Copybook Headings, I notice, outlast them all.

We were living in trees when they met us. They showed us each in turn
That Water would certainly wet us, as Fire would certainly burn:
But we found them lacking in Uplift, Vision and Breadth of Mind,
So we left them to teach the Gorillas while we followed the March of Mankind.

We moved as the Spirit listed. They never altered their pace,
Being neither cloud nor wind-borne like the Gods of the Market Place,
But they always caught up with our progress, and presently word would come
That a tribe had been wiped off its icefield, or the lights had gone out in Rome.

With the Hopes that our World is built on they were utterly out of touch,
They denied that the Moon was Stilton; they denied she was even Dutch;
They denied that Wishes were Horses; they denied that a Pig had Wings;
So we worshipped the Gods of the Market Who promised these beautiful things.

When the Cambrian measures were forming, They promised perpetual peace.
They swore, if we gave them our weapons, that the wars of the tribes would cease.
But when we disarmed They sold us and delivered us bound to our foe,
And the Gods of the Copybook Headings said: “Stick to the Devil you know.”

On the first Feminian Sandstones we were promised the Fuller Life
(Which started by loving our neighbour and ended by loving his wife)
Till our women had no more children and the men lost reason and faith,
And the Gods of the Copybook Headings said: “The Wages of Sin is Death.”

In the Carboniferous Epoch we were promised abundance for all,
By robbing selected Peter to pay for collective Paul;
But, though we had plenty of money, there was nothing our money could buy,
And the Gods of the Copybook Headings said: “If you don’t work you die.”

Then the Gods of the Market tumbled, and their smooth-tongued wizards withdrew
And the hearts of the meanest were humbled and began to believe it was true
That All is not Gold that Glitters, and Two and Two make Four
And the Gods of the Copybook Headings limped up to explain it once more.

As it will be in the future, it was at the birth of Man
There are only four things certain since Social Progress began.
That the Dog returns to his Vomit and the Sow returns to her Mire,
And the burnt Fool’s bandaged finger goes wabbling back to the Fire;

And that after this is accomplished, and the brave new world begins
When all men are paid for existing and no man must pay for his sins,
As surely as Water will wet us, as surely as Fire will burn,
The Gods of the Copybook Headings with terror and slaughter return! ~Kipling

[Casca]

[quote=Nor-LA-SD-guy]Maybe people could just be moving back to their home town’s , to me now that would make some sense.

When you are in trouble, you fall back to base camp.
[/quote]

That is a traditional demographic pattern. People return to their roots, dogs to their vomit.

AS I PASS through my incarnations in every age and race,
I make my proper prostrations to the Gods of the Market Place.
Peering through reverent fingers I watch them flourish and fall,
And the Gods of the Copybook Headings, I notice, outlast them all.

We were living in trees when they met us. They showed us each in turn
That Water would certainly wet us, as Fire would certainly burn:
But we found them lacking in Uplift, Vision and Breadth of Mind,
So we left them to teach the Gorillas while we followed the March of Mankind.

We moved as the Spirit listed. They never altered their pace,
Being neither cloud nor wind-borne like the Gods of the Market Place,
But they always caught up with our progress, and presently word would come
That a tribe had been wiped off its icefield, or the lights had gone out in Rome.

With the Hopes that our World is built on they were utterly out of touch,
They denied that the Moon was Stilton; they denied she was even Dutch;
They denied that Wishes were Horses; they denied that a Pig had Wings;
So we worshipped the Gods of the Market Who promised these beautiful things.

When the Cambrian measures were forming, They promised perpetual peace.
They swore, if we gave them our weapons, that the wars of the tribes would cease.
But when we disarmed They sold us and delivered us bound to our foe,
And the Gods of the Copybook Headings said: “Stick to the Devil you know.”

On the first Feminian Sandstones we were promised the Fuller Life
(Which started by loving our neighbour and ended by loving his wife)
Till our women had no more children and the men lost reason and faith,
And the Gods of the Copybook Headings said: “The Wages of Sin is Death.”

In the Carboniferous Epoch we were promised abundance for all,
By robbing selected Peter to pay for collective Paul;
But, though we had plenty of money, there was nothing our money could buy,
And the Gods of the Copybook Headings said: “If you don’t work you die.”

Then the Gods of the Market tumbled, and their smooth-tongued wizards withdrew
And the hearts of the meanest were humbled and began to believe it was true
That All is not Gold that Glitters, and Two and Two make Four
And the Gods of the Copybook Headings limped up to explain it once more.

As it will be in the future, it was at the birth of Man
There are only four things certain since Social Progress began.
That the Dog returns to his Vomit and the Sow returns to her Mire,
And the burnt Fool’s bandaged finger goes wabbling back to the Fire;

And that after this is accomplished, and the brave new world begins
When all men are paid for existing and no man must pay for his sins,
As surely as Water will wet us, as surely as Fire will burn,
The Gods of the Copybook Headings with terror and slaughter return! ~Kipling

[Casca]

[quote=Nor-LA-SD-guy]Maybe people could just be moving back to their home town’s , to me now that would make some sense.

When you are in trouble, you fall back to base camp.
[/quote]

That is a traditional demographic pattern. People return to their roots, dogs to their vomit.

AS I PASS through my incarnations in every age and race,
I make my proper prostrations to the Gods of the Market Place.
Peering through reverent fingers I watch them flourish and fall,
And the Gods of the Copybook Headings, I notice, outlast them all.

We were living in trees when they met us. They showed us each in turn
That Water would certainly wet us, as Fire would certainly burn:
But we found them lacking in Uplift, Vision and Breadth of Mind,
So we left them to teach the Gorillas while we followed the March of Mankind.

We moved as the Spirit listed. They never altered their pace,
Being neither cloud nor wind-borne like the Gods of the Market Place,
But they always caught up with our progress, and presently word would come
That a tribe had been wiped off its icefield, or the lights had gone out in Rome.

With the Hopes that our World is built on they were utterly out of touch,
They denied that the Moon was Stilton; they denied she was even Dutch;
They denied that Wishes were Horses; they denied that a Pig had Wings;
So we worshipped the Gods of the Market Who promised these beautiful things.

When the Cambrian measures were forming, They promised perpetual peace.
They swore, if we gave them our weapons, that the wars of the tribes would cease.
But when we disarmed They sold us and delivered us bound to our foe,
And the Gods of the Copybook Headings said: “Stick to the Devil you know.”

On the first Feminian Sandstones we were promised the Fuller Life
(Which started by loving our neighbour and ended by loving his wife)
Till our women had no more children and the men lost reason and faith,
And the Gods of the Copybook Headings said: “The Wages of Sin is Death.”

In the Carboniferous Epoch we were promised abundance for all,
By robbing selected Peter to pay for collective Paul;
But, though we had plenty of money, there was nothing our money could buy,
And the Gods of the Copybook Headings said: “If you don’t work you die.”

Then the Gods of the Market tumbled, and their smooth-tongued wizards withdrew
And the hearts of the meanest were humbled and began to believe it was true
That All is not Gold that Glitters, and Two and Two make Four
And the Gods of the Copybook Headings limped up to explain it once more.

As it will be in the future, it was at the birth of Man
There are only four things certain since Social Progress began.
That the Dog returns to his Vomit and the Sow returns to her Mire,
And the burnt Fool’s bandaged finger goes wabbling back to the Fire;

And that after this is accomplished, and the brave new world begins
When all men are paid for existing and no man must pay for his sins,
As surely as Water will wet us, as surely as Fire will burn,
The Gods of the Copybook Headings with terror and slaughter return! ~Kipling

[Casca]

[quote=Nor-LA-SD-guy]Maybe people could just be moving back to their home town’s , to me now that would make some sense.

When you are in trouble, you fall back to base camp.
[/quote]

That is a traditional demographic pattern. People return to their roots, dogs to their vomit.

AS I PASS through my incarnations in every age and race,
I make my proper prostrations to the Gods of the Market Place.
Peering through reverent fingers I watch them flourish and fall,
And the Gods of the Copybook Headings, I notice, outlast them all.

We were living in trees when they met us. They showed us each in turn
That Water would certainly wet us, as Fire would certainly burn:
But we found them lacking in Uplift, Vision and Breadth of Mind,
So we left them to teach the Gorillas while we followed the March of Mankind.

We moved as the Spirit listed. They never altered their pace,
Being neither cloud nor wind-borne like the Gods of the Market Place,
But they always caught up with our progress, and presently word would come
That a tribe had been wiped off its icefield, or the lights had gone out in Rome.

With the Hopes that our World is built on they were utterly out of touch,
They denied that the Moon was Stilton; they denied she was even Dutch;
They denied that Wishes were Horses; they denied that a Pig had Wings;
So we worshipped the Gods of the Market Who promised these beautiful things.

When the Cambrian measures were forming, They promised perpetual peace.
They swore, if we gave them our weapons, that the wars of the tribes would cease.
But when we disarmed They sold us and delivered us bound to our foe,
And the Gods of the Copybook Headings said: “Stick to the Devil you know.”

On the first Feminian Sandstones we were promised the Fuller Life
(Which started by loving our neighbour and ended by loving his wife)
Till our women had no more children and the men lost reason and faith,
And the Gods of the Copybook Headings said: “The Wages of Sin is Death.”

In the Carboniferous Epoch we were promised abundance for all,
By robbing selected Peter to pay for collective Paul;
But, though we had plenty of money, there was nothing our money could buy,
And the Gods of the Copybook Headings said: “If you don’t work you die.”

Then the Gods of the Market tumbled, and their smooth-tongued wizards withdrew
And the hearts of the meanest were humbled and began to believe it was true
That All is not Gold that Glitters, and Two and Two make Four
And the Gods of the Copybook Headings limped up to explain it once more.

As it will be in the future, it was at the birth of Man
There are only four things certain since Social Progress began.
That the Dog returns to his Vomit and the Sow returns to her Mire,
And the burnt Fool’s bandaged finger goes wabbling back to the Fire;

And that after this is accomplished, and the brave new world begins
When all men are paid for existing and no man must pay for his sins,
As surely as Water will wet us, as surely as Fire will burn,
The Gods of the Copybook Headings with terror and slaughter return! ~Kipling

[92027_guy]

Dwcap,

Yeap that’s me, My back yard is facing south actually. I like it, to be honest I don’t have a GREAT view but it was important to me to NOT have someone elses window looking down into my back yard. South facing is not good for growing grass though, so my back yard (which is pretty big by CA standards 10,000sq ft lot) is a bunch of weeds as I couldn’t justify the water waste to keep it green.
As far as the premium, I guess that’s hard to tell what that was now that the whole market has collapsed since I bought. But all in all, it was a good setup to spend the last 2.5 years, and I’d have to say the privacy, scenery, breeze is worth it to me. YMMV

[92027_guy]

Dwcap,

Yeap that’s me, My back yard is facing south actually. I like it, to be honest I don’t have a GREAT view but it was important to me to NOT have someone elses window looking down into my back yard. South facing is not good for growing grass though, so my back yard (which is pretty big by CA standards 10,000sq ft lot) is a bunch of weeds as I couldn’t justify the water waste to keep it green.
As far as the premium, I guess that’s hard to tell what that was now that the whole market has collapsed since I bought. But all in all, it was a good setup to spend the last 2.5 years, and I’d have to say the privacy, scenery, breeze is worth it to me. YMMV

[92027_guy]

Dwcap,

Yeap that’s me, My back yard is facing south actually. I like it, to be honest I don’t have a GREAT view but it was important to me to NOT have someone elses window looking down into my back yard. South facing is not good for growing grass though, so my back yard (which is pretty big by CA standards 10,000sq ft lot) is a bunch of weeds as I couldn’t justify the water waste to keep it green.
As far as the premium, I guess that’s hard to tell what that was now that the whole market has collapsed since I bought. But all in all, it was a good setup to spend the last 2.5 years, and I’d have to say the privacy, scenery, breeze is worth it to me. YMMV

[92027_guy]

Dwcap,

Yeap that’s me, My back yard is facing south actually. I like it, to be honest I don’t have a GREAT view but it was important to me to NOT have someone elses window looking down into my back yard. South facing is not good for growing grass though, so my back yard (which is pretty big by CA standards 10,000sq ft lot) is a bunch of weeds as I couldn’t justify the water waste to keep it green.
As far as the premium, I guess that’s hard to tell what that was now that the whole market has collapsed since I bought. But all in all, it was a good setup to spend the last 2.5 years, and I’d have to say the privacy, scenery, breeze is worth it to me. YMMV

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