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November 7, 2007 at 3:23 PM #96989November 7, 2007 at 3:23 PM #96995SD RealtorParticipant
I always was under the impression that any refi is always recourse regardless of what the money was used for…
Again, totally a speculative statement, not advice, not a CPA… just a grunt making a post.
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November 8, 2007 at 9:52 AM #97320DaCounselorParticipantRefi’s are typically recourse loans, but of course you have to look at the language in the loan docs to determine the terms. Purchase money loans are non-recourse despite any language in the loan docs that may suggest recourse is permitted. The Civil Code doesn’t allow recourse on purchase money loans, including a HELOC taken out as the 20% of an 80/20 deal.
November 8, 2007 at 9:52 AM #97383DaCounselorParticipantRefi’s are typically recourse loans, but of course you have to look at the language in the loan docs to determine the terms. Purchase money loans are non-recourse despite any language in the loan docs that may suggest recourse is permitted. The Civil Code doesn’t allow recourse on purchase money loans, including a HELOC taken out as the 20% of an 80/20 deal.
November 8, 2007 at 9:52 AM #97394DaCounselorParticipantRefi’s are typically recourse loans, but of course you have to look at the language in the loan docs to determine the terms. Purchase money loans are non-recourse despite any language in the loan docs that may suggest recourse is permitted. The Civil Code doesn’t allow recourse on purchase money loans, including a HELOC taken out as the 20% of an 80/20 deal.
November 8, 2007 at 9:52 AM #97401DaCounselorParticipantRefi’s are typically recourse loans, but of course you have to look at the language in the loan docs to determine the terms. Purchase money loans are non-recourse despite any language in the loan docs that may suggest recourse is permitted. The Civil Code doesn’t allow recourse on purchase money loans, including a HELOC taken out as the 20% of an 80/20 deal.
November 8, 2007 at 4:25 PM #97473Chance the GardenerParticipantRefi is not purchase money
Unequivocally, proceeds from a refinance loan are not purchase money. Lenders of purchase money are required to disclose the non-recourse nature of a loan in California. Refinance lenders are not required to inform you that refinancing forfeits your protection under Civil Code section 580b. Here is a link to a law professor's article calling for a correction to this problem. Note in the conclusion that the least likely to succeed solution is to extend 580b protection to borrowers who refinanced. http://works.bepress.com/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1000&context=george_kuney
November 8, 2007 at 4:25 PM #97535Chance the GardenerParticipantRefi is not purchase money
Unequivocally, proceeds from a refinance loan are not purchase money. Lenders of purchase money are required to disclose the non-recourse nature of a loan in California. Refinance lenders are not required to inform you that refinancing forfeits your protection under Civil Code section 580b. Here is a link to a law professor's article calling for a correction to this problem. Note in the conclusion that the least likely to succeed solution is to extend 580b protection to borrowers who refinanced. http://works.bepress.com/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1000&context=george_kuney
November 8, 2007 at 4:25 PM #97546Chance the GardenerParticipantRefi is not purchase money
Unequivocally, proceeds from a refinance loan are not purchase money. Lenders of purchase money are required to disclose the non-recourse nature of a loan in California. Refinance lenders are not required to inform you that refinancing forfeits your protection under Civil Code section 580b. Here is a link to a law professor's article calling for a correction to this problem. Note in the conclusion that the least likely to succeed solution is to extend 580b protection to borrowers who refinanced. http://works.bepress.com/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1000&context=george_kuney
November 8, 2007 at 4:25 PM #97552Chance the GardenerParticipantRefi is not purchase money
Unequivocally, proceeds from a refinance loan are not purchase money. Lenders of purchase money are required to disclose the non-recourse nature of a loan in California. Refinance lenders are not required to inform you that refinancing forfeits your protection under Civil Code section 580b. Here is a link to a law professor's article calling for a correction to this problem. Note in the conclusion that the least likely to succeed solution is to extend 580b protection to borrowers who refinanced. http://works.bepress.com/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1000&context=george_kuney
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