OT-Cash for clunkers? How about cash for killers?

[Nor-LA-SD-guy]

Well I was trying to hold out until cheap viable electric car was here, but I guess if I can get a new F-150 or the GM equivalent for about 10K I will have to buy.

[equalizer]

[quote=flu]Lol. I think it’s not just toyota. A good percentage of cars are all DBW..Must euro has been DBW for some time.

BTW:
ABCnews is to toyota as 60 minutes was to Audi 5000 a few years ago.

I wouldn’t call a “professor” from a school heavily funded from Government Motors, wiring a shunt resistor between two lines that are intended to be separate, to artificially accelerate a car, to have much credibility…though, I do think toyota’s got some problems with the software.

Basically, this problem is to complicated for someone who doesn’t have access to the code to find the “cause”…Everyone else claiming to know what the problem is just a media attention whore at this point.

Folks, here’s my prediction. Car prices across the board are about to plummet….Toyota is going to give steep discounts off of their cars, and extend warranties to something ridiculous….just to keep sales numbers afloat. It will ridiculous pricing…GM/Ford/Chyrsler/Honda/Hyundai etc will have no choice but to follow through…It’s going to be a race to the bottom.

Still waiting for that 2011 redesigned Ford Edge to cost less than what the outgoing 2010 model will be…(Glad I didn’t buy a 2010)…[/quote]
Agree that ABC report is lame, but there may be problem here that is difficult to duplicate.
Is everyone who stated that accelator stuck mistaken or outright lying? Did that guy in the Prius the other day make the whole thing up? Why doesn’t Toyota update system to have brakes cut acceleration signals like German cars supposedly do?

[equalizer]

[quote=flu]Lol. I think it’s not just toyota. A good percentage of cars are all DBW..Must euro has been DBW for some time.

BTW:
ABCnews is to toyota as 60 minutes was to Audi 5000 a few years ago.

I wouldn’t call a “professor” from a school heavily funded from Government Motors, wiring a shunt resistor between two lines that are intended to be separate, to artificially accelerate a car, to have much credibility…though, I do think toyota’s got some problems with the software.

Basically, this problem is to complicated for someone who doesn’t have access to the code to find the “cause”…Everyone else claiming to know what the problem is just a media attention whore at this point.

Folks, here’s my prediction. Car prices across the board are about to plummet….Toyota is going to give steep discounts off of their cars, and extend warranties to something ridiculous….just to keep sales numbers afloat. It will ridiculous pricing…GM/Ford/Chyrsler/Honda/Hyundai etc will have no choice but to follow through…It’s going to be a race to the bottom.

Still waiting for that 2011 redesigned Ford Edge to cost less than what the outgoing 2010 model will be…(Glad I didn’t buy a 2010)…[/quote]
Agree that ABC report is lame, but there may be problem here that is difficult to duplicate.
Is everyone who stated that accelator stuck mistaken or outright lying? Did that guy in the Prius the other day make the whole thing up? Why doesn’t Toyota update system to have brakes cut acceleration signals like German cars supposedly do?

[equalizer]

[quote=flu]Lol. I think it’s not just toyota. A good percentage of cars are all DBW..Must euro has been DBW for some time.

BTW:
ABCnews is to toyota as 60 minutes was to Audi 5000 a few years ago.

I wouldn’t call a “professor” from a school heavily funded from Government Motors, wiring a shunt resistor between two lines that are intended to be separate, to artificially accelerate a car, to have much credibility…though, I do think toyota’s got some problems with the software.

Basically, this problem is to complicated for someone who doesn’t have access to the code to find the “cause”…Everyone else claiming to know what the problem is just a media attention whore at this point.

Folks, here’s my prediction. Car prices across the board are about to plummet….Toyota is going to give steep discounts off of their cars, and extend warranties to something ridiculous….just to keep sales numbers afloat. It will ridiculous pricing…GM/Ford/Chyrsler/Honda/Hyundai etc will have no choice but to follow through…It’s going to be a race to the bottom.

Still waiting for that 2011 redesigned Ford Edge to cost less than what the outgoing 2010 model will be…(Glad I didn’t buy a 2010)…[/quote]
Agree that ABC report is lame, but there may be problem here that is difficult to duplicate.
Is everyone who stated that accelator stuck mistaken or outright lying? Did that guy in the Prius the other day make the whole thing up? Why doesn’t Toyota update system to have brakes cut acceleration signals like German cars supposedly do?

[equalizer]

[quote=flu]Lol. I think it’s not just toyota. A good percentage of cars are all DBW..Must euro has been DBW for some time.

BTW:
ABCnews is to toyota as 60 minutes was to Audi 5000 a few years ago.

I wouldn’t call a “professor” from a school heavily funded from Government Motors, wiring a shunt resistor between two lines that are intended to be separate, to artificially accelerate a car, to have much credibility…though, I do think toyota’s got some problems with the software.

Basically, this problem is to complicated for someone who doesn’t have access to the code to find the “cause”…Everyone else claiming to know what the problem is just a media attention whore at this point.

Folks, here’s my prediction. Car prices across the board are about to plummet….Toyota is going to give steep discounts off of their cars, and extend warranties to something ridiculous….just to keep sales numbers afloat. It will ridiculous pricing…GM/Ford/Chyrsler/Honda/Hyundai etc will have no choice but to follow through…It’s going to be a race to the bottom.

Still waiting for that 2011 redesigned Ford Edge to cost less than what the outgoing 2010 model will be…(Glad I didn’t buy a 2010)…[/quote]
Agree that ABC report is lame, but there may be problem here that is difficult to duplicate.
Is everyone who stated that accelator stuck mistaken or outright lying? Did that guy in the Prius the other day make the whole thing up? Why doesn’t Toyota update system to have brakes cut acceleration signals like German cars supposedly do?

[equalizer]

[quote=flu]Lol. I think it’s not just toyota. A good percentage of cars are all DBW..Must euro has been DBW for some time.

BTW:
ABCnews is to toyota as 60 minutes was to Audi 5000 a few years ago.

I wouldn’t call a “professor” from a school heavily funded from Government Motors, wiring a shunt resistor between two lines that are intended to be separate, to artificially accelerate a car, to have much credibility…though, I do think toyota’s got some problems with the software.

Basically, this problem is to complicated for someone who doesn’t have access to the code to find the “cause”…Everyone else claiming to know what the problem is just a media attention whore at this point.

Folks, here’s my prediction. Car prices across the board are about to plummet….Toyota is going to give steep discounts off of their cars, and extend warranties to something ridiculous….just to keep sales numbers afloat. It will ridiculous pricing…GM/Ford/Chyrsler/Honda/Hyundai etc will have no choice but to follow through…It’s going to be a race to the bottom.

Still waiting for that 2011 redesigned Ford Edge to cost less than what the outgoing 2010 model will be…(Glad I didn’t buy a 2010)…[/quote]
Agree that ABC report is lame, but there may be problem here that is difficult to duplicate.
Is everyone who stated that accelator stuck mistaken or outright lying? Did that guy in the Prius the other day make the whole thing up? Why doesn’t Toyota update system to have brakes cut acceleration signals like German cars supposedly do?

[Eugene]

I have a strong feeling that this is all part of a devious Detroit plan to gain market share. I’m sure I’m not the only one.

If I’m right, in the next few months we should start hearing about braking/steering/electrical problems plaguing the Civic and the Accord.

[Eugene]

I have a strong feeling that this is all part of a devious Detroit plan to gain market share. I’m sure I’m not the only one.

If I’m right, in the next few months we should start hearing about braking/steering/electrical problems plaguing the Civic and the Accord.

[Eugene]

I have a strong feeling that this is all part of a devious Detroit plan to gain market share. I’m sure I’m not the only one.

If I’m right, in the next few months we should start hearing about braking/steering/electrical problems plaguing the Civic and the Accord.

[Eugene]

I have a strong feeling that this is all part of a devious Detroit plan to gain market share. I’m sure I’m not the only one.

If I’m right, in the next few months we should start hearing about braking/steering/electrical problems plaguing the Civic and the Accord.

[Eugene]

I have a strong feeling that this is all part of a devious Detroit plan to gain market share. I’m sure I’m not the only one.

If I’m right, in the next few months we should start hearing about braking/steering/electrical problems plaguing the Civic and the Accord.

[ocrenter]

[quote=Eugene]I have a strong feeling that this is all part of a devious Detroit plan to gain market share. I’m sure I’m not the only one.

If I’m right, in the next few months we should start hearing about braking/steering/electrical problems plaguing the Civic and the Accord.[/quote]

hey, since the government is majority GM shareholder, right? so the question is how did Obama sneak into this guy’s garage and alter the electronic system.

[ocrenter]

[quote=Eugene]I have a strong feeling that this is all part of a devious Detroit plan to gain market share. I’m sure I’m not the only one.

If I’m right, in the next few months we should start hearing about braking/steering/electrical problems plaguing the Civic and the Accord.[/quote]

hey, since the government is majority GM shareholder, right? so the question is how did Obama sneak into this guy’s garage and alter the electronic system.

[ocrenter]

[quote=Eugene]I have a strong feeling that this is all part of a devious Detroit plan to gain market share. I’m sure I’m not the only one.

If I’m right, in the next few months we should start hearing about braking/steering/electrical problems plaguing the Civic and the Accord.[/quote]

hey, since the government is majority GM shareholder, right? so the question is how did Obama sneak into this guy’s garage and alter the electronic system.

[ocrenter]

[quote=Eugene]I have a strong feeling that this is all part of a devious Detroit plan to gain market share. I’m sure I’m not the only one.

If I’m right, in the next few months we should start hearing about braking/steering/electrical problems plaguing the Civic and the Accord.[/quote]

hey, since the government is majority GM shareholder, right? so the question is how did Obama sneak into this guy’s garage and alter the electronic system.

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