OT – Who will run for President on the Republican side?

[Coronita]

[quote=briansd1]Who will Ron Paul supporters vote for if he’s not a candidate?

A significant share of Paul voters — 35 percent of those in a Michigan exit poll last week — say they would not vote for any other GOP candidate. And even as Paul’s rivals adopt some of his rhetoric, it remains to be seen whether his followers will shift their allegiance.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/where-will-ron-pauls-supporters-go-for-the-general-election/2012/03/05/gIQAi1PdtR_story.html

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Well considering how he did in tuesday, I’m not sure it would really matter if his supporters defected….

[briansd1]

Based on the Tuesday results, it seems to me as if Newt Ginrich had quit the race, Rick Santorum would have picked-up Newt’s voter and would have won.

Newt staying in the race has been beneficial to Romney.

[markmax33]

[quote=flu][quote=briansd1]Who will Ron Paul supporters vote for if he’s not a candidate?

A significant share of Paul voters — 35 percent of those in a Michigan exit poll last week — say they would not vote for any other GOP candidate. And even as Paul’s rivals adopt some of his rhetoric, it remains to be seen whether his followers will shift their allegiance.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/where-will-ron-pauls-supporters-go-for-the-general-election/2012/03/05/gIQAi1PdtR_story.html

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Well considering how he did in tuesday, I’m not sure it would really matter if his supporters defected….[/quote]

You guys don’t understand how the delegate process works. Paul has volunteers in all of those bound delegates for Santorum and Gingrich. They are all going to defect over to Paul, not Romney. Paul is in 2nd place right now with actual delegates. The more those two win the better off for Paul.

[svelte]

[quote=markmax33]

You guys don’t understand how the delegate process works. Paul has volunteers in all of those bound delegates for Santorum and Gingrich. They are all going to defect over to Paul, not Romney. Paul is in 2nd place right now with actual delegates. The more those two win the better off for Paul.[/quote]

Wooo! And here I’ve been thinking we had scared Mark off!

Well you know where I stand on the whole topic, no use repeating myself.

[svelte]

[quote=svelte]Okay, ready to make my prediction.

I think it’ll be a Romney / Bachmann ticket in 2012, with a outside chance it will be Perry / Bachmann.

Watch it turn out to be Romney / Perry. :-)[/quote]

Now that Romney appears to have it in the bag, who will be his running mate?

Don’t think it will be Perry, and probably not Bachmann since that would feel too much like a Palin mistake.

Santorum has made all his bridges into huge bonfires, but Romney is going to need someone who does well in the south and with the religious fringe…gotta make sure those folks make it to the polls!

I can’t see him picking Newt….any other ideas?

[briansd1]

[quote=svelte] I can’t see him picking Newt….any other ideas?[/quote]

People say Marco Rubio as a pick for the general election. But Rubio can’t really energize the base of White non-college educate base.

[UCGal]

I’ve also heard both Eric Cantor and Paul Ryan mentioned.

[markmax33]

[quote=briansd1][quote=svelte] I can’t see him picking Newt….any other ideas?[/quote]

People say Marco Rubio as a pick for the general election. But Rubio can’t really energize the base of White non-college educate base.[/quote]

Only one guy is energizing the college base at this time and draws 3,000+ crowds at every University and is winning the under 30 vote by a wide margin.

One guy is winning all of delegates at the Caucus states (and non-caucus states, although they are bound for one round of voting). Ron Paul has likely won Washington, Iowa, Minnesota, Maine, Missouri, Alaska, Nevada, North Dakota, etc.

Missouri should be final in the next few days and then you guys will actually understand what’s happening.

There is a high likelyhood of a brokered convention at this point, and if that happens, Romney may still be 60% favorite to win the nomination but it is surely not in the bag at all. The Paul delegates are getting elected in every town across America right now and not giving up.

Don’t be fooled by the inaccurate “delegate counts” based on the straw polls. You should understand how the vote really works if you care about it enough to write on a blog about it.

[svelte]

[quote=markmax33]
Don’t be fooled by the inaccurate “delegate counts” based on the straw polls. You should understand how the vote really works if you care about it enough to write on a blog about it.[/quote]

So…you’re taking me up on my bet offer? Put your money where your mouth is!!!

[markmax33]

[quote=svelte][quote=markmax33]
Don’t be fooled by the inaccurate “delegate counts” based on the straw polls. You should understand how the vote really works if you care about it enough to write on a blog about it.[/quote]

So…you’re taking me up on my bet offer? Put your money where your mouth is!!![/quote]

What’s the bet? You haven’t even offered one. I’ve got $100 I’ll wager you. You have to pay me in person at the next PIG meetup.

[svelte]

[quote=markmax33][quote=svelte][quote=markmax33]
Don’t be fooled by the inaccurate “delegate counts” based on the straw polls. You should understand how the vote really works if you care about it enough to write on a blog about it.[/quote]

So…you’re taking me up on my bet offer? Put your money where your mouth is!!![/quote]

What’s the bet? You haven’t even offered one. I’ve got $100 I’ll wager you. You have to pay me in person at the next PIG meetup.[/quote]

Now it becomes clear. Your memory doesn’t even hold information for 6 weeks.

Let me refresh it for you. Look at the bet I offered you on Feb 16th in this thread:

http://piggington.com/absolute_voter_fraud_paul_wins_maine

At which time you declined and said:

I never said he was a favorite but all you people have written him off and you aren’t informed.

Well, I’m saying Romney is a favorite and there is no sense in debating any other choice for the Republican nomination, especially Ron Paul! Unless Mitt keels over dead, which isn’t likely.

And the offer still stands dude. We’ll see who is mis-informed. Care to accept now? Or are you all hot air?

[markmax33]

[quote=svelte][quote=markmax33][quote=svelte][quote=markmax33]
Don’t be fooled by the inaccurate “delegate counts” based on the straw polls. You should understand how the vote really works if you care about it enough to write on a blog about it.[/quote]

So…you’re taking me up on my bet offer? Put your money where your mouth is!!![/quote]

What’s the bet? You haven’t even offered one. I’ve got $100 I’ll wager you. You have to pay me in person at the next PIG meetup.[/quote]

Now it becomes clear. Your memory doesn’t even hold information for 6 weeks.

Let me refresh it for you. Look at the bet I offered you on Feb 16th in this thread:

http://piggington.com/absolute_voter_fraud_paul_wins_maine

At which time you declined and said:

I never said he was a favorite but all you people have written him off and you aren’t informed.

Well, I’m saying Romney is a favorite and there is no sense in debating any other choice for the Republican nomination, especially Ron Paul! Unless Mitt keels over dead, which isn’t likely.

And the offer still stands dude. We’ll see who is mis-informed. Care to accept now? Or are you all hot air?[/quote]

You still haven’t made a real bet. Come on “Mr. Hot Air”, if Romney has it by a landslide you should give me some delegate numbers and put up a bet against it. That’s how people get elected:

1. Paul wins atleast 5 states by delegate counts. (Not reporting delegate counts properly has a hugely negative affect on the Paul campaign btw)

2. Paul finishes 2nd in a brokered convention, which therefore makes your “especially Ron Paul” complete hogwash.

If this is a landslide as you percieve lets make some hard bets. I’m anxious for my payout, come on lets book a bet.

[bearishgurl]

I agree with markmax in that the fat lady hasn’t finished singing here yet.

I’ve seen underdogs pull out of gopher holes for air more than once in my lifetime. They usually do it when no one is paying attention.

[svelte]

[quote=markmax33]
You still haven’t made a real bet. Come on “Mr. Hot Air”, [/quote]

Oh my friggin’ lord.

Let me pull the exact words out of the other thread and put them under your nose:

[quote=svelte]
Tell ya what mark. Let’s put our money where our mouth is and do a friendly wager.

If Ron Paul wins the Republican nomination, I buy every Pigg who shows up at the Carlsbad Pizza Port on the Friday after the Republican Convention a beer.

If Ron Paul loses the Republican nomination, you buy every Pigg who shows up at the Carlsbad Pizza Port the Friday after the Republican Convention a beer.

Do you accept?
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Let me ask one final time – do you accept or are you going to continue to sidestep?

[markmax33]

[quote=svelte][quote=markmax33]
You still haven’t made a real bet. Come on “Mr. Hot Air”, [/quote]

Oh my friggin’ lord.

Let me pull the exact words out of the other thread and put them under your nose:

[quote=svelte]
Tell ya what mark. Let’s put our money where our mouth is and do a friendly wager.

If Ron Paul wins the Republican nomination, I buy every Pigg who shows up at the Carlsbad Pizza Port on the Friday after the Republican Convention a beer.

If Ron Paul loses the Republican nomination, you buy every Pigg who shows up at the Carlsbad Pizza Port the Friday after the Republican Convention a beer.

Do you accept?
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Let me ask one final time – do you accept or are you going to continue to sidestep?[/quote]

Stop twisting things around.

That isn’t reflective of your comments. Make a real bet. You said Romney wins in a landslide and Paul has no bearing on the party at all (paraphrase). Put your money where your mouth is.

The whole time I merely pointed out that the media and people like you don’t understand the delegate process or a brokered convention. I never said anything different. You disagreed with some babble and wanted to make a bet and I offered you a bet.

Paul has major effects on the campaign win or lose which is why it is approriate to consider his affect on the outcome.

Romney can’t even get close to Obama without Paul’s support which he may have to offer him a VP or his son a VP job to get those votes and change his stance on several issues.

You probably still think Paul hasn’t/won’t win any states either, and at the time of the bet my words were “I believe there is a high likelyhood Paul is ahead at the current time.”

When the delegates are counted from the early Caucus states that actually voted before the time of that statement, let’s go back and evaluate how correct I am. I didn’t offer any future predictions, I merely said he was likely in the lead at this point. You disagreed and said he had it in the bag as of that date which is completely hogwash.

Let’s make some real bets like real men.

1. Ron Paul was within 20% of the number of delegates of Romney at the time of my statement in Feb.

2. Ron Paul doesn’t have the majority of delegates in 5 states.

3. In a brokered convention Paul gets 2nd place or wins.

Based on your previous statements none of this could even be remotely true so why are you so scared?

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