OT – Who will run for President on the Republican side?

[markmax33]

[quote=pri_dk][quote]You have a little more authority as President than you do as Congressman.[/quote]

Really? Where does it say that in the Constitution?

And what was FDR’s “Constitutional violation?”

Hint: Article 2, Section 2, Clause 2

Yes, there’s more than just one section![/quote]

He knowingly violated the intent of the Consitution per his auth of office. If he appointed a bunch of judges that didn’t uphold the intent of the Constitution he should be impeached! Don’t you get it? I don’t get the disconnect.

[Anonymous]

I’m guessing you don’t watch NFL football.

Because there is ‘holding’ on every play.

It would not be good for your blood pressure.

[markmax33]

[quote=pri_dk]I’m guessing you don’t watch NFL football.

Because there is ‘holding’ on every play.

It would not be good for your blood pressure.[/quote]

Late hits on the QB used to happen on every play until the retired players started showing up with massive brain damage and lobbied the league. I think you get my point.

[SK in CV]

[quote=markmax33]
You have a little more authority as President than you do as Congressman. If something is done wrong it is done wrong. You as an American should be outraged they undermined our liberty. This same extension of Article 1 Section 8 is what they are using to justify SOPA I’m sure. Do you want your precious blog shut down? Wait, the Constitutional violation and gaming of the system by FDR is only cool when they pass ideas you want. I get it![/quote]

No on the bold part. Have you ever read Article 1, Section 8? SOPA would be covered by one of the enumerated powers.

[markmax33]

[quote=SK in CV][quote=markmax33]
You have a little more authority as President than you do as Congressman. If something is done wrong it is done wrong. You as an American should be outraged they undermined our liberty. This same extension of Article 1 Section 8 is what they are using to justify SOPA I’m sure. Do you want your precious blog shut down? Wait, the Constitutional violation and gaming of the system by FDR is only cool when they pass ideas you want. I get it![/quote]

No on the bold part. Have you ever read Article 1, Section 8? SOPA would be covered by one of the enumerated powers.[/quote]

I know you can read correct? Have you read SOPA? Just because Congress says the name of the bill is “Stop Online Piracy Act” do you believe it is Consitutional? Come on, I’ve got a Bridge in Brooklyn to sell you.

You are correct that Congress can pass laws to protect intelluctual property. They cannot do what they are proposing in SOPA. Again this website would have to be immediately shut down or Rich Toscano would be held liable for any link on the website and Rich would have to police the internet. You should really read the law and you should be irate that it even made it anywhere near Congress. It is only the general welfare clause that allows them to propose such a thing.

[Anonymous]

[quote=markmax33][quote=pri_dk]I’m guessing you don’t watch NFL football.

Because there is ‘holding’ on every play.

It would not be good for your blood pressure.[/quote]

Late hits on the QB used to happen on every play until the retired players started showing up with massive brain damage and lobbied the league. I think you get my point.[/quote]

Yes I get your point. The ruling of the referee doesn’t matter.

It’s only a late hit if Ron Paul says it’s a late hit.

[Anonymous]

[quote=markmax33]You are correct that Congress can pass laws to protect intelluctual property. They cannot do what they are proposing in SOPA. Again this website would have to be immediately shut down or Rich Toscano would be held liable for any link on the website and Rich would have to police the internet. You should really read the law and you should be irate that it even made it anywhere near Congress. It is only the general welfare clause that allows them to propose such a thing.[/quote]

I do see a thread of consistency in your arguments:

“Congress only has the enumerated powers, except when Ron Paul doesn’t agree.”

Trivia Question:

How many times does Ron Paul’s name appear in the Constitution?

More than Jesus?

[SK in CV]

[quote=markmax33]
I know you can read correct? Have you read SOPA? Just because Congress says the name of the bill is “Stop Online Piracy Act” do you believe it is Consitutional? Come on, I’ve got a Bridge in Brooklyn to sell you.

You are correct that Congress can pass laws to protect intelluctual property. They cannot do what they are proposing in SOPA. Again this website would have to be immediately shut down or Rich Toscano would be held liable for any link on the website and Rich would have to police the internet. You should really read the law and you should be irate that it even made it anywhere near Congress. It is only the general welfare clause that allows them to propose such a thing.[/quote]

Either you can argue that the general welfare clause only applies to the enumerated powers or it applies to powers beyond those that are enumerated (as the courts have held). But now you seem to be arguing that it should be meaningless, that it doesn’t exist at all, and that congress is not authorized to ever consider general welfare.

I am bothered that it’s made it anywhere near congress, and thankfully, it’s highly unlikely to pass. But you’ve made it unconstitutional, not based on what’s in the constitution, but rather what you want the constitution to say. I’ll call it the markmax amendment.

[poorgradstudent]

Although I think SOPA is a terrible idea, it’s pretty clearly part of Interstate Commerce.

[markmax33]

[quote=pri_dk][quote=markmax33][quote=pri_dk]I’m guessing you don’t watch NFL football.

Because there is ‘holding’ on every play.

It would not be good for your blood pressure.[/quote]

Late hits on the QB used to happen on every play until the retired players started showing up with massive brain damage and lobbied the league. I think you get my point.[/quote]

Yes I get your point. The ruling of the referee doesn’t matter.

It’s only a late hit if Ron Paul says it’s a late hit.[/quote]

It’s a late hit if an irate minority stand up and get it fixed. If not it ends the league.

[markmax33]

The issue of SOPA falls under Article 1 section 8:

“To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries;”

It may very well extend to the interstate commerce clause from there.

[DomoArigato]

It’s amazing to me how far to the right and how nutty the Republican candidates are. It’s almost as if the Republicans are running right-wing nutjobs for rightwingnutjobs.

A very interesting strategem indeed.

[DomoArigato]

The Republican candidate who scares the people I know teh most is Ron Paul. They see some of the absolutely mindless, nonsensical, and tyrannical posts made online by his fanatical supporters and they feel like they’ve been transported back in time to Nazi Germany.

As a limousine liberal who has a very comfortable life, I give thanks to the Ron Paul nutjobs who help to ensure that Obama will be re-elected in 2012.

[Reality]

[quote=DomoArigato]It’s amazing to me how far to the right and how nutty the Republican candidates are. It’s almost as if the Republicans are running right-wing nutjobs for rightwingnutjobs.

A very interesting strategem indeed.[/quote]

That’s how it works in a Republican primary. Try to out-conservative each other. The nominee will move more to the center in the general election. Obama’s already getting a head start on that from the other side.

Both sides will have moderates running by election day.

[markmax33]

[quote=DomoArigato]The Republican candidate who scares the people I know teh most is Ron Paul. They see some of the absolutely mindless, nonsensical, and tyrannical posts made online by his fanatical supporters and they feel like they’ve been transported back in time to Nazi Germany.

As a limousine liberal who has a very comfortable life, I give thanks to the Ron Paul nutjobs who help to ensure that Obama will be re-elected in 2012.[/quote]

You are seriously uneducated in your comments. Extreme is a debt level on par with the PIIGS in Europe. Extreme is expanding an empire like the Romans. Extreme is violating the Constitution daily. There is nothing extreme about Ron Paul’s message and your extreme slander/liable isn’t appreciated.

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