OT: Who Will Biden Pick For VP?

[spdrun]

I never felt much compassion towards Trump or his enablers. I feel even less now. We’re literally talking about policies that gamble with the long-term survival of life on Earth.

I still think of a reduction in human fertility as one possible positive consequence of COVID. We’re literally deforesting and fossil-fueling ourselves into catastrophe .. if human population keeps growing, it will crash hard and unpleasantly.

Climate change is real and (IMHO) unavoidable without strict control of human population. Humans are apparently too inflexible and short-sighted to support rapidly moving to more carbon-neutral technologies and changing their modes of living to avoid contributing to deforestation (less meat, less disposable furniture).

We’re unwilling to enact strict anti-birth (one or two child limit per couple) policies, so a natural fertility reduction event may be the only hope for the long-term survival of the Earth’s ecosystem.

Heathrow and Cambridge hit 100F last month. Paris is supposed to rise into the 90s later this week. Madrid was hitting the low 100s fairly consistently last month. This is more frightening than COVID.

[scaredyclassic]

im kinda with spdrun on this one. except instead of less meat, I’d say we need to immediately ban all meat.

[svelte]

[quote=spdrun]Are you actually hoping for President Cockwomble to remain in office for another four years, svelte?[/quote]

No sir if you’ve read my past posts you know I believe he is the worst president in the history of presidents. It’s not even close.

I’m just trying to identify any means by which he could counter the current trend to towards his loss. It’s not too late and folks like Gingrich are identifying potential paths. That in no way means I hope he listens.

[svelte]

[quote=scaredyclassic]im kinda with spdrun on this one. except instead of less meat, I’d say we need to immediately ban all meat.[/quote]

I dunno about that. I each chicken and fish. Very very rarely a hamburger. No pork, lamb, or anything else ever. I’ve been eating like this for almost 25 years now.

[scaredyclassic]

The planet cant take it.

https://www.theguardian.com/books/2019/oct/06/jonathan-safran-foer-we-are-the-weather-saving-planet-begins-breakfast-review

this author changed my life.

im way more concerned about the health of the planet than i am about covid, but im pretty damn worried about covid

[ocrenter]

[quote=scaredyclassic]The planet cant take it.

https://www.theguardian.com/books/2019/oct/06/jonathan-safran-foer-we-are-the-weather-saving-planet-begins-breakfast-review

this author changed my life.

im way more concerned about the health of the planet than i am about covid, but im pretty damn worried about covid[/quote]

We have gone vegan for about a year.

Gradual process of course, first just my wife, then the whole family. Got rid of dairy early given high sugar content, cheese was hard for the wife, eggs very hard for the daughter.

Wife did it mostly for animal welfare and environment, me more for environment and health. She couldn’t take my EVangelizing ways, so veganism was a good compromise.

Whole lot easier to go the vegan route these days, highly recommended.

[svelte]

[quote=ocrenter]

Whole lot easier to go the vegan route these days, highly recommended.[/quote]

Not today, but I may do it soon.

We went sans-bread, pasta, and most other processed food for awhile and I have to say I noticed differences within a couple of weeks. It was amazing. We’ve backed off a little on that, but still very limited amounts and still get most of the benefit of eliminating them entirely.

Vegan wouldn’t be that much of a jump for us – me especially. It was tough giving up pasta but we adapted and the cravings went away. We could do it again for cheese & eggs.

[ocrenter]

[quote=svelte]

We went sans-bread, pasta, and most other processed food for awhile and I have to say I noticed differences within a couple of weeks. It was amazing. We’ve backed off a little on that, but still very limited amounts and still get most of the benefit of eliminating them entirely.

Vegan wouldn’t be that much of a jump for us – me especially. It was tough giving up pasta but we adapted and the cravings went away. We could do it again for cheese & eggs.[/quote]

Getting rid of refined carbs definitely the biggest bang for your buck from health perspective.

I was never into cheese that much. Give JUST egg a try, pretty amazing!

[sdrealtor]

I had a big bowl of pasta for the first time in while with lots of cheese. I dont crave it but it was good. My time is limited and I dont eat much each day so when i do I eat what want. Call me the anti-vegan.

I lie to my primary care doc. JK, I tell him I eat lousy food and drink lots of wine at least twice a week. He tells me not to, I laugh and invite him to enjoy some great wines with me anytime. He smiles and nods. Its what we do.

[scaredyclassic]

non-vegans and republicans skew to the old. Over 55, veganism very rare in the usa. old people dont change, for the most part. Republicans and meat eaters dying every year. the republicans may be replaced, but the meat eaters are on the decline.

[svelte]

[quote=scaredyclassic]Over 55, veganism very rare in the usa. old people dont change, for the most part. Republicans and meat eaters dying every year. the republicans may be replaced, but the meat eaters are on the decline.[/quote]

One thing that keeps me motivated to continue avoiding beef – passing the slaughterhouse on I-5 while traveling to northern california. I can smell that place about 5 miles before we pass it and the smell and sight of the place is just disgusting. I want nothing to do with that industry.

I notice they put the Harris Ranch steakhouse several miles to the south of the slaughterhouse – they don’t want to smell it, either. And the row of trees they planted along I-5 to shield the motorist’s view of the slaughterhouse? Those ain’t doin’ much.

https://www.google.com/maps/@36.2986965,-120.2717878,3a,28.4y,95.21h,84.04t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1swBCmzHNutQdWA06GfGlLLw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

If I ever passed a chicken slaughterhouse I guess it might shape my opinion on poultry also.

Finally: I can tell you’re a CA and NY boy at heart scaredy because the midwest is still chock full of big meat eaters. Young and old alike. It goes hand in hand with hunting. There may be a decline in meat eating, but it isn’t going to disappear tomorrow I can tell you that.

[scaredyclassic]

I just invested 20$ in 40 cans of baked organic amys beans almost expired from western eagle foundation, a local almost expired food bank place that sells random foods at super low prices worth a trip if youre in temecula–near the mall.

I routinely buy 100$ worth of slightly aged power bars at pennies on the dollar.

my best returns of all time have been in almost expired food. my wife is like, why are you so bright eyed. I say, I just laid down 150 bucks at western eagle and got 500$ worth of food! it’s like a 300% return in one day!!!!

Recent scores include a dozen large cans of campbells tomato juice, $1.00 each. No Cow bars, .50 each! swedish fish, 1.00. it’s absolutely thrilling for me to shop there. and cruelty free! except for the cruelty inherent in late stage pseudo capitalism that invovles such tremendous waste and scarcity to exist side by side

[gzz]

Scaredy, it sounds like you got a good deal because that was priced for the food insecure. You should be giving them stuff.

Maybe it’s for the best you swooped in on donations for folks facing hard times, fasting is healthy and canned food is dangerously salty. You’ll hopefully not be actually eating 50 cans of “almost” expired baked beans.

:-}

[svelte]

Gretchen Whitmer appears to be back in the running.

When first looking into all of this a month or two back, she was one of my top picks – glad to hear she’s being seriously considered again.

Karen Bass and Gretchen Whitmer are my two top picks right now. I’d be happy with either.

[scaredyclassic]

[quote=gzz]Scaredy, it sounds like you got a good deal because that was priced for the food insecure. You should be giving them stuff.

Maybe it’s for the best you swooped in on donations for folks facing hard times, fasting is healthy and canned food is dangerously salty. You’ll hopefully not be actually eating 50 cans of “almost” expired baked beans.

:-}[/quote]

I asked the mgt and they told me it was supporting their efforts to give free food to some to shop there, the store is not just for poor people. They give free food to truly needy.

They dont sell out, they get steady flow of old stuff. Its ok to shop there they said … not taking cheap food from the mouth of the poor … i did feel bad 1st time but they need to move mdse. Even send out coupons and specials.

We bought a lighting fixture thrre too.

They definitely dont accept food donations, not like that. Stores give them pallets of stuff that didnt sell

They have say 20 cases of olive oil brand that failed.

5000 off brand power bars.

Weird cereal wuth box crushed. Older coffee.

I got some sacks of older organic figs cheap.

People shopping there are mixed bag. I see a lot of people with many kids. Some vroke looking people. But lots of middle class types.

https://www.western-eagle.org/bargain-store/

“Simply by shopping you help others in need”.

Its a very cool place. Theres no scanner. The cashiers either know the price or guess. Theure usually pretty close, prices are pretty close

And amys bak3d organic beans are good. Last time i got 10 cans of amys lentil soup for a buck each. Thats like a 25 $ tax free gain.

I LOVE THIS STORE.

Requires culinary flexibility and complete lack of brand loyalty tho

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