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February 8, 2009 at 7:10 PM #343596February 8, 2009 at 11:54 PM #343114
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Participant[quote=SD Realtor]Well let’s see… Maybe I am blind but it seems that every single one of these projects will definitely help… city employees. I guess I miss the part where I the 350 million will help create sustainable jobs in the private sector. Seems to me that this will create alot more work for alot more city employees. Perhaps they can take that 350 million and use it to fund the underfunded pension and medical benefits for the existing city employees? No I guess it is better to bloat the system up with lots more city employees. Why not!
Don’t get me wrong because the infrastructure of this city is pretty pathetic. However, it just seems pretty bad to me… It seems like there could be a better way to spend 350 million.
Good post afx. [/quote]
UTC traffic nightmare esp with Trolley extension is extremely important to fix for all who need to commute. Will help all who work/live in area.
Worrying about city workers benefiting from this project is missing the big picture. It’s the retired safety workers making 200K that is the problem.February 8, 2009 at 11:54 PM #343439Participant[quote=SD Realtor]Well let’s see… Maybe I am blind but it seems that every single one of these projects will definitely help… city employees. I guess I miss the part where I the 350 million will help create sustainable jobs in the private sector. Seems to me that this will create alot more work for alot more city employees. Perhaps they can take that 350 million and use it to fund the underfunded pension and medical benefits for the existing city employees? No I guess it is better to bloat the system up with lots more city employees. Why not!
Don’t get me wrong because the infrastructure of this city is pretty pathetic. However, it just seems pretty bad to me… It seems like there could be a better way to spend 350 million.
Good post afx. [/quote]
UTC traffic nightmare esp with Trolley extension is extremely important to fix for all who need to commute. Will help all who work/live in area.
Worrying about city workers benefiting from this project is missing the big picture. It’s the retired safety workers making 200K that is the problem.February 8, 2009 at 11:54 PM #343547Participant[quote=SD Realtor]Well let’s see… Maybe I am blind but it seems that every single one of these projects will definitely help… city employees. I guess I miss the part where I the 350 million will help create sustainable jobs in the private sector. Seems to me that this will create alot more work for alot more city employees. Perhaps they can take that 350 million and use it to fund the underfunded pension and medical benefits for the existing city employees? No I guess it is better to bloat the system up with lots more city employees. Why not!
Don’t get me wrong because the infrastructure of this city is pretty pathetic. However, it just seems pretty bad to me… It seems like there could be a better way to spend 350 million.
Good post afx. [/quote]
UTC traffic nightmare esp with Trolley extension is extremely important to fix for all who need to commute. Will help all who work/live in area.
Worrying about city workers benefiting from this project is missing the big picture. It’s the retired safety workers making 200K that is the problem.February 8, 2009 at 11:54 PM #343575Participant[quote=SD Realtor]Well let’s see… Maybe I am blind but it seems that every single one of these projects will definitely help… city employees. I guess I miss the part where I the 350 million will help create sustainable jobs in the private sector. Seems to me that this will create alot more work for alot more city employees. Perhaps they can take that 350 million and use it to fund the underfunded pension and medical benefits for the existing city employees? No I guess it is better to bloat the system up with lots more city employees. Why not!
Don’t get me wrong because the infrastructure of this city is pretty pathetic. However, it just seems pretty bad to me… It seems like there could be a better way to spend 350 million.
Good post afx. [/quote]
UTC traffic nightmare esp with Trolley extension is extremely important to fix for all who need to commute. Will help all who work/live in area.
Worrying about city workers benefiting from this project is missing the big picture. It’s the retired safety workers making 200K that is the problem.February 8, 2009 at 11:54 PM #343671Participant[quote=SD Realtor]Well let’s see… Maybe I am blind but it seems that every single one of these projects will definitely help… city employees. I guess I miss the part where I the 350 million will help create sustainable jobs in the private sector. Seems to me that this will create alot more work for alot more city employees. Perhaps they can take that 350 million and use it to fund the underfunded pension and medical benefits for the existing city employees? No I guess it is better to bloat the system up with lots more city employees. Why not!
Don’t get me wrong because the infrastructure of this city is pretty pathetic. However, it just seems pretty bad to me… It seems like there could be a better way to spend 350 million.
Good post afx. [/quote]
UTC traffic nightmare esp with Trolley extension is extremely important to fix for all who need to commute. Will help all who work/live in area.
Worrying about city workers benefiting from this project is missing the big picture. It’s the retired safety workers making 200K that is the problem.February 9, 2009 at 8:44 AM #343124SD Realtor
ParticipantEqualizer there needs to be a clarification between stimulus and spending. If you want to “spend” money, 350 million on this sort of stuff then simply call it that. However that sort of spending will not stimulate the telecom industry or the biotech industry. It will not get a college grad in engineering a job. Like I said in my other post that was Dave Ramseys idea, stimulus of the private sector to retain jobs, is more important. Putting every egg into infrastructure improvement to me seems rash. I would settle for at least some in infrastructure improvement and some in the private sector.
It just “appears” to me like this is a spending package that is not unlike a large thank you note to the unions.
February 9, 2009 at 8:44 AM #343449ParticipantEqualizer there needs to be a clarification between stimulus and spending. If you want to “spend” money, 350 million on this sort of stuff then simply call it that. However that sort of spending will not stimulate the telecom industry or the biotech industry. It will not get a college grad in engineering a job. Like I said in my other post that was Dave Ramseys idea, stimulus of the private sector to retain jobs, is more important. Putting every egg into infrastructure improvement to me seems rash. I would settle for at least some in infrastructure improvement and some in the private sector.
It just “appears” to me like this is a spending package that is not unlike a large thank you note to the unions.
February 9, 2009 at 8:44 AM #343557ParticipantEqualizer there needs to be a clarification between stimulus and spending. If you want to “spend” money, 350 million on this sort of stuff then simply call it that. However that sort of spending will not stimulate the telecom industry or the biotech industry. It will not get a college grad in engineering a job. Like I said in my other post that was Dave Ramseys idea, stimulus of the private sector to retain jobs, is more important. Putting every egg into infrastructure improvement to me seems rash. I would settle for at least some in infrastructure improvement and some in the private sector.
It just “appears” to me like this is a spending package that is not unlike a large thank you note to the unions.
February 9, 2009 at 8:44 AM #343585ParticipantEqualizer there needs to be a clarification between stimulus and spending. If you want to “spend” money, 350 million on this sort of stuff then simply call it that. However that sort of spending will not stimulate the telecom industry or the biotech industry. It will not get a college grad in engineering a job. Like I said in my other post that was Dave Ramseys idea, stimulus of the private sector to retain jobs, is more important. Putting every egg into infrastructure improvement to me seems rash. I would settle for at least some in infrastructure improvement and some in the private sector.
It just “appears” to me like this is a spending package that is not unlike a large thank you note to the unions.
February 9, 2009 at 8:44 AM #343682ParticipantEqualizer there needs to be a clarification between stimulus and spending. If you want to “spend” money, 350 million on this sort of stuff then simply call it that. However that sort of spending will not stimulate the telecom industry or the biotech industry. It will not get a college grad in engineering a job. Like I said in my other post that was Dave Ramseys idea, stimulus of the private sector to retain jobs, is more important. Putting every egg into infrastructure improvement to me seems rash. I would settle for at least some in infrastructure improvement and some in the private sector.
It just “appears” to me like this is a spending package that is not unlike a large thank you note to the unions.
February 9, 2009 at 9:34 AM #343155
barnaby33ParticipantI wish they would speed the 5 expansion process/ toss dollars at it.. The 15 expansion has resulted in lightened traffic, the 5 needs the same expansion just as bad.
Just raise the tax on gas. That lightens traffic right there, without any environmental degredation! Simple fix and no multi-billion dollar expenditures need be made.
On another note, hybrids are a total red herring. So instead of dependence on foreign oil, you are toting around hundreds of pounds of lead acid batteries (charged by mostly coal fired power plants), how is that more environmentally friendly? The only real solution is less driving, but somehow no one ever wants to do that.
JoshFebruary 9, 2009 at 9:34 AM #343479barnaby33ParticipantI wish they would speed the 5 expansion process/ toss dollars at it.. The 15 expansion has resulted in lightened traffic, the 5 needs the same expansion just as bad.
Just raise the tax on gas. That lightens traffic right there, without any environmental degredation! Simple fix and no multi-billion dollar expenditures need be made.
On another note, hybrids are a total red herring. So instead of dependence on foreign oil, you are toting around hundreds of pounds of lead acid batteries (charged by mostly coal fired power plants), how is that more environmentally friendly? The only real solution is less driving, but somehow no one ever wants to do that.
JoshFebruary 9, 2009 at 9:34 AM #343587barnaby33ParticipantI wish they would speed the 5 expansion process/ toss dollars at it.. The 15 expansion has resulted in lightened traffic, the 5 needs the same expansion just as bad.
Just raise the tax on gas. That lightens traffic right there, without any environmental degredation! Simple fix and no multi-billion dollar expenditures need be made.
On another note, hybrids are a total red herring. So instead of dependence on foreign oil, you are toting around hundreds of pounds of lead acid batteries (charged by mostly coal fired power plants), how is that more environmentally friendly? The only real solution is less driving, but somehow no one ever wants to do that.
JoshFebruary 9, 2009 at 9:34 AM #343615barnaby33ParticipantI wish they would speed the 5 expansion process/ toss dollars at it.. The 15 expansion has resulted in lightened traffic, the 5 needs the same expansion just as bad.
Just raise the tax on gas. That lightens traffic right there, without any environmental degredation! Simple fix and no multi-billion dollar expenditures need be made.
On another note, hybrids are a total red herring. So instead of dependence on foreign oil, you are toting around hundreds of pounds of lead acid batteries (charged by mostly coal fired power plants), how is that more environmentally friendly? The only real solution is less driving, but somehow no one ever wants to do that.
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