OT – What’s your take on Egypt and the Middle East

[EconProf]

While its great sport to demonize Hosni Mubarak, let’s keep some history in mind. For three decades he has cooperated with the US and Israel, and enforced the peace accord his predecessor, Anwar Sadat worked out. In the roughly three decades before the peace agreement, Egypt fought four wars with Israel. Let’s hope and pray Egypt does not go the way of Iran after the Shah. America once had high hopes for Iran during its revolution and before the extremists took over.

[moneymaker]

I agree with EconProf. Hopefully things don’t get so out of hand that it involves Israel in the near future, and we end up regretting giving them nuclear capability in the 60’s.

[moneymaker]

I agree with EconProf. Hopefully things don’t get so out of hand that it involves Israel in the near future, and we end up regretting giving them nuclear capability in the 60’s.

[moneymaker]

I agree with EconProf. Hopefully things don’t get so out of hand that it involves Israel in the near future, and we end up regretting giving them nuclear capability in the 60’s.

[moneymaker]

I agree with EconProf. Hopefully things don’t get so out of hand that it involves Israel in the near future, and we end up regretting giving them nuclear capability in the 60’s.

[moneymaker]

I agree with EconProf. Hopefully things don’t get so out of hand that it involves Israel in the near future, and we end up regretting giving them nuclear capability in the 60’s.

[5yes]

I am very concerned. Something is going on that is way deeper than what we see on the news. I can’t see clearly through the muddle and the hyped-up news stories. Did we Americans start this just like we started (and abandoned to massacre at the hand of Saddam) the Kurdish rebellion? If we didn’t start the protests in Egypt, why didn’t our numerous plants in the region have more information as to what is going on?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2011/02/03/AR2011020307014.html

I found this article about the beginning of the uprising in Egpyt:

Said, a young businessman from Alexandria, was reportedly beaten to death by local police this summer—well before rumblings of the country’s current unrest. But a Facebook page that bears his name has been one of the driving forces behind the upheaval that started last week.

The anonymous Facebook page administrator who goes by the handle El Shaheeed, meaning martyr, has played a crucial role in organizing the demonstrations, the largest Egypt has seen since the 1970s, that now threaten the country’s authoritarian regime.

Yet even Egypt’s most active activists have no idea who the anonymous organizer is.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/dailybeast/20110131/ts_dailybeast/12153_elshaheedthemysteriousanonymousbehindegyptsrevolt

So what is going on exactly? Anyone else have any ideas outside of the mainstream media blathering? Does Israel want the Suez canal? Do we? Or is there something else driving this?

[5yes]

I am very concerned. Something is going on that is way deeper than what we see on the news. I can’t see clearly through the muddle and the hyped-up news stories. Did we Americans start this just like we started (and abandoned to massacre at the hand of Saddam) the Kurdish rebellion? If we didn’t start the protests in Egypt, why didn’t our numerous plants in the region have more information as to what is going on?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2011/02/03/AR2011020307014.html

I found this article about the beginning of the uprising in Egpyt:

Said, a young businessman from Alexandria, was reportedly beaten to death by local police this summer—well before rumblings of the country’s current unrest. But a Facebook page that bears his name has been one of the driving forces behind the upheaval that started last week.

The anonymous Facebook page administrator who goes by the handle El Shaheeed, meaning martyr, has played a crucial role in organizing the demonstrations, the largest Egypt has seen since the 1970s, that now threaten the country’s authoritarian regime.

Yet even Egypt’s most active activists have no idea who the anonymous organizer is.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/dailybeast/20110131/ts_dailybeast/12153_elshaheedthemysteriousanonymousbehindegyptsrevolt

So what is going on exactly? Anyone else have any ideas outside of the mainstream media blathering? Does Israel want the Suez canal? Do we? Or is there something else driving this?

[5yes]

I am very concerned. Something is going on that is way deeper than what we see on the news. I can’t see clearly through the muddle and the hyped-up news stories. Did we Americans start this just like we started (and abandoned to massacre at the hand of Saddam) the Kurdish rebellion? If we didn’t start the protests in Egypt, why didn’t our numerous plants in the region have more information as to what is going on?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2011/02/03/AR2011020307014.html

I found this article about the beginning of the uprising in Egpyt:

Said, a young businessman from Alexandria, was reportedly beaten to death by local police this summer—well before rumblings of the country’s current unrest. But a Facebook page that bears his name has been one of the driving forces behind the upheaval that started last week.

The anonymous Facebook page administrator who goes by the handle El Shaheeed, meaning martyr, has played a crucial role in organizing the demonstrations, the largest Egypt has seen since the 1970s, that now threaten the country’s authoritarian regime.

Yet even Egypt’s most active activists have no idea who the anonymous organizer is.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/dailybeast/20110131/ts_dailybeast/12153_elshaheedthemysteriousanonymousbehindegyptsrevolt

So what is going on exactly? Anyone else have any ideas outside of the mainstream media blathering? Does Israel want the Suez canal? Do we? Or is there something else driving this?

[5yes]

I am very concerned. Something is going on that is way deeper than what we see on the news. I can’t see clearly through the muddle and the hyped-up news stories. Did we Americans start this just like we started (and abandoned to massacre at the hand of Saddam) the Kurdish rebellion? If we didn’t start the protests in Egypt, why didn’t our numerous plants in the region have more information as to what is going on?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2011/02/03/AR2011020307014.html

I found this article about the beginning of the uprising in Egpyt:

Said, a young businessman from Alexandria, was reportedly beaten to death by local police this summer—well before rumblings of the country’s current unrest. But a Facebook page that bears his name has been one of the driving forces behind the upheaval that started last week.

The anonymous Facebook page administrator who goes by the handle El Shaheeed, meaning martyr, has played a crucial role in organizing the demonstrations, the largest Egypt has seen since the 1970s, that now threaten the country’s authoritarian regime.

Yet even Egypt’s most active activists have no idea who the anonymous organizer is.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/dailybeast/20110131/ts_dailybeast/12153_elshaheedthemysteriousanonymousbehindegyptsrevolt

So what is going on exactly? Anyone else have any ideas outside of the mainstream media blathering? Does Israel want the Suez canal? Do we? Or is there something else driving this?

[5yes]

I am very concerned. Something is going on that is way deeper than what we see on the news. I can’t see clearly through the muddle and the hyped-up news stories. Did we Americans start this just like we started (and abandoned to massacre at the hand of Saddam) the Kurdish rebellion? If we didn’t start the protests in Egypt, why didn’t our numerous plants in the region have more information as to what is going on?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2011/02/03/AR2011020307014.html

I found this article about the beginning of the uprising in Egpyt:

Said, a young businessman from Alexandria, was reportedly beaten to death by local police this summer—well before rumblings of the country’s current unrest. But a Facebook page that bears his name has been one of the driving forces behind the upheaval that started last week.

The anonymous Facebook page administrator who goes by the handle El Shaheeed, meaning martyr, has played a crucial role in organizing the demonstrations, the largest Egypt has seen since the 1970s, that now threaten the country’s authoritarian regime.

Yet even Egypt’s most active activists have no idea who the anonymous organizer is.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/dailybeast/20110131/ts_dailybeast/12153_elshaheedthemysteriousanonymousbehindegyptsrevolt

So what is going on exactly? Anyone else have any ideas outside of the mainstream media blathering? Does Israel want the Suez canal? Do we? Or is there something else driving this?

[CDMA ENG]

[quote=EconProf]While its great sport to demonize Hosni Mubarak, let’s keep some history in mind. For three decades he has cooperated with the US and Israel, and enforced the peace accord his predecessor, Anwar Sadat worked out. In the roughly three decades before the peace agreement, Egypt fought four wars with Israel. Let’s hope and pray Egypt does not go the way of Iran after the Shah. America once had high hopes for Iran during its revolution and before the extremists took over.[/quote]

Very good point but it sounds like the ppl want change. Let’s hope that change is the kind that is peaceful and open.

I am sure the Israelis are keeping the motors warm on thier tanks and jets until they know which it is.

CE

[CDMA ENG]

[quote=EconProf]While its great sport to demonize Hosni Mubarak, let’s keep some history in mind. For three decades he has cooperated with the US and Israel, and enforced the peace accord his predecessor, Anwar Sadat worked out. In the roughly three decades before the peace agreement, Egypt fought four wars with Israel. Let’s hope and pray Egypt does not go the way of Iran after the Shah. America once had high hopes for Iran during its revolution and before the extremists took over.[/quote]

Very good point but it sounds like the ppl want change. Let’s hope that change is the kind that is peaceful and open.

I am sure the Israelis are keeping the motors warm on thier tanks and jets until they know which it is.

CE

[CDMA ENG]

[quote=EconProf]While its great sport to demonize Hosni Mubarak, let’s keep some history in mind. For three decades he has cooperated with the US and Israel, and enforced the peace accord his predecessor, Anwar Sadat worked out. In the roughly three decades before the peace agreement, Egypt fought four wars with Israel. Let’s hope and pray Egypt does not go the way of Iran after the Shah. America once had high hopes for Iran during its revolution and before the extremists took over.[/quote]

Very good point but it sounds like the ppl want change. Let’s hope that change is the kind that is peaceful and open.

I am sure the Israelis are keeping the motors warm on thier tanks and jets until they know which it is.

CE

[CDMA ENG]

[quote=EconProf]While its great sport to demonize Hosni Mubarak, let’s keep some history in mind. For three decades he has cooperated with the US and Israel, and enforced the peace accord his predecessor, Anwar Sadat worked out. In the roughly three decades before the peace agreement, Egypt fought four wars with Israel. Let’s hope and pray Egypt does not go the way of Iran after the Shah. America once had high hopes for Iran during its revolution and before the extremists took over.[/quote]

Very good point but it sounds like the ppl want change. Let’s hope that change is the kind that is peaceful and open.

I am sure the Israelis are keeping the motors warm on thier tanks and jets until they know which it is.

CE

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