OT The Fiscal Magic of “The One” (Political)

[gandalf]

luch, I’m not an urban liberal, I run a business and I wince when I look at the amount of tax we pay each payroll cycle, every quarter, etc.

That said, I find Obama’s fiscal proposals to be far more sound and business conservative than McCain and the GOP. Healthcare is an example where sound public policy can translate into improvements on the bottom line in the private sector. Energy policy is another area, and Obama’s energy proposals are far superior to the GOP.

In a similar vein, Obama’s tax policy proposals strike me as better for business than McCain/GOP. Crackdown on tax avoidance. Fortune 500 companies are posting record profits and shirking taxes offshore. Average business don’t have legions of consultants, lawyers and accountants devising tax avoidance strategies.

GOP talking points have been deceptive on the facts, more so in this election than any other I can remember. Ex-GOP here, so I don’t drink leftie kool-aid. I’m calling it like I see it. Obama and the Dems are a better choice for my business. Open to substantive comments you might have, specific issues.

[Arraya]

“Drill, baby, Drill,” an instant laugh for urban liberals who never drive and don’t run businesses.

No it’s good for a laugh for people that understand the physical realities of peak oil and understand no amount of drilling can change this indisputable fact. Because we like to pretend it’s not there so we can make up disney land stories about Iraq being an imminent threat. Hell, even the liberal press ignores the fact that Cheney was caught with his hand in the cookie jar in his secretive “Energy Task Force” meeting from back in 2000 with maps of Iraqi oil fields and was consulted by Matt Simmons regarding peak oil. Any progressive liberals out there want to venture a guess of why the liberal media does not touch that? Let me give you a hint. Complicity. But our press does not like dots to be connected. Because we like fake debates about whether or not is possible to bomb Iraq to a democracy. Never mind the fingerprints of oil men on Iraqi oil wells the moment when world oil production is peaking. The funny part is the Iraqi people want nothing to do with us and now we will not let them be a democracy, oh the irony. In fact we even threatened to steal their assets if they did not allow us to have permanent bases put there. Now that the truth is starting to emerge regarding Iraq, that we were supposed to be there forever. It kind of makes you wonder about GWBs little “mission accomplished” stunt. It makes me think it was staged to for cannon fodder for the liberal media. They never meant to leave. Hell, PNAC and Brezinski wrote about the imminent need to get into central asia back in the late 90s to control it’s oil supplies but again the liberal media was absent. No dots to be connected for the peasants, keep arguing about some of the fake debates within our buffet of fake debates.

If America wants Obamanomics, great. However, be careful what you wish for, you just might get it.

You just don’t get it. We are a banana republic regardless who gets in. It’s a done deal. The collapse is imminent. The effectiveness of either McCain or Obama to actually try to improve the situation is about as likely as somebody standing on the shore with a bucket and sponge to stop a category 5 hurricane. Actually, arguing the minute details of their tax plans, which is the only difference they have, is like worrying about a hang nail when you have a sucking chest wound. Nonsense.

The US is being thrown into Obama’s arms in a typical Hegelian Dialectic and the GOP is throwing the election like a flaming bobcat on meth. Another done deal. That is unless we have to take out Iran but I think they have abandoned that plan. Iran started trading oil in other than the USD a few months ago.

Overall, Americans refuse to acknowledge that not only do presidents and political parties not govern the United States, but they are in fact, irrelevant. The sovereignty of nations has been irreversibly eroded by corporatism and organizations such as the Bilderberg Group, the Council on Foreign Relations, and the Trilateral Commission whose agenda is the dissolution of nation-states and the global dominance of multi-national corporations.

THERE IS NO GOVERNMENT ONLY A BUREAUCRACY THAT SUPPORTS CORPORATE AND FINANCIAL INTERESTS. CITIZENS ARE IRRELEVANT.

The fact of the matter is, it is no longer profitable the maintain America and it makes absolutely no sense for the world to subsidize our way of living anymore through dollar hegemony. Our purpose has been fulfilled and now its on to a new reality. Slave camp USA here we come as the whole world gets to dump it’s toxic assets on our backs. It was a”Pump and Dump”/collateral damage in larger world domination plan.

If you don’t realize the whole civilization is run by money and energy and that is where all power gravitates, you just don’t get. Nothing else matters. And everything is to do with maintaining control of those two things. This is what the whole history of civilization is about, domination. What we have been witnessing over the past 10 years is the battle to keep control of those two things. Everything else is spoon fed propaganda to give you a narrative that you find acceptable.

We don’t have a banking crisis we have a god damn crisis of awareness But I’m just a koo-koo, nutjob so don’t listen to me.

[Arraya]

“Drill, baby, Drill,” an instant laugh for urban liberals who never drive and don’t run businesses.

No it’s good for a laugh for people that understand the physical realities of peak oil and understand no amount of drilling can change this indisputable fact. Because we like to pretend it’s not there so we can make up disney land stories about Iraq being an imminent threat. Hell, even the liberal press ignores the fact that Cheney was caught with his hand in the cookie jar in his secretive “Energy Task Force” meeting from back in 2000 with maps of Iraqi oil fields and was consulted by Matt Simmons regarding peak oil. Any progressive liberals out there want to venture a guess of why the liberal media does not touch that? Let me give you a hint. Complicity. But our press does not like dots to be connected. Because we like fake debates about whether or not is possible to bomb Iraq to a democracy. Never mind the fingerprints of oil men on Iraqi oil wells the moment when world oil production is peaking. The funny part is the Iraqi people want nothing to do with us and now we will not let them be a democracy, oh the irony. In fact we even threatened to steal their assets if they did not allow us to have permanent bases put there. Now that the truth is starting to emerge regarding Iraq, that we were supposed to be there forever. It kind of makes you wonder about GWBs little “mission accomplished” stunt. It makes me think it was staged to for cannon fodder for the liberal media. They never meant to leave. Hell, PNAC and Brezinski wrote about the imminent need to get into central asia back in the late 90s to control it’s oil supplies but again the liberal media was absent. No dots to be connected for the peasants, keep arguing about some of the fake debates within our buffet of fake debates.

If America wants Obamanomics, great. However, be careful what you wish for, you just might get it.

You just don’t get it. We are a banana republic regardless who gets in. It’s a done deal. The collapse is imminent. The effectiveness of either McCain or Obama to actually try to improve the situation is about as likely as somebody standing on the shore with a bucket and sponge to stop a category 5 hurricane. Actually, arguing the minute details of their tax plans, which is the only difference they have, is like worrying about a hang nail when you have a sucking chest wound. Nonsense.

The US is being thrown into Obama’s arms in a typical Hegelian Dialectic and the GOP is throwing the election like a flaming bobcat on meth. Another done deal. That is unless we have to take out Iran but I think they have abandoned that plan. Iran started trading oil in other than the USD a few months ago.

Overall, Americans refuse to acknowledge that not only do presidents and political parties not govern the United States, but they are in fact, irrelevant. The sovereignty of nations has been irreversibly eroded by corporatism and organizations such as the Bilderberg Group, the Council on Foreign Relations, and the Trilateral Commission whose agenda is the dissolution of nation-states and the global dominance of multi-national corporations.

THERE IS NO GOVERNMENT ONLY A BUREAUCRACY THAT SUPPORTS CORPORATE AND FINANCIAL INTERESTS. CITIZENS ARE IRRELEVANT.

The fact of the matter is, it is no longer profitable the maintain America and it makes absolutely no sense for the world to subsidize our way of living anymore through dollar hegemony. Our purpose has been fulfilled and now its on to a new reality. Slave camp USA here we come as the whole world gets to dump it’s toxic assets on our backs. It was a”Pump and Dump”/collateral damage in larger world domination plan.

If you don’t realize the whole civilization is run by money and energy and that is where all power gravitates, you just don’t get. Nothing else matters. And everything is to do with maintaining control of those two things. This is what the whole history of civilization is about, domination. What we have been witnessing over the past 10 years is the battle to keep control of those two things. Everything else is spoon fed propaganda to give you a narrative that you find acceptable.

We don’t have a banking crisis we have a god damn crisis of awareness But I’m just a koo-koo, nutjob so don’t listen to me.

[Arraya]

“Drill, baby, Drill,” an instant laugh for urban liberals who never drive and don’t run businesses.

No it’s good for a laugh for people that understand the physical realities of peak oil and understand no amount of drilling can change this indisputable fact. Because we like to pretend it’s not there so we can make up disney land stories about Iraq being an imminent threat. Hell, even the liberal press ignores the fact that Cheney was caught with his hand in the cookie jar in his secretive “Energy Task Force” meeting from back in 2000 with maps of Iraqi oil fields and was consulted by Matt Simmons regarding peak oil. Any progressive liberals out there want to venture a guess of why the liberal media does not touch that? Let me give you a hint. Complicity. But our press does not like dots to be connected. Because we like fake debates about whether or not is possible to bomb Iraq to a democracy. Never mind the fingerprints of oil men on Iraqi oil wells the moment when world oil production is peaking. The funny part is the Iraqi people want nothing to do with us and now we will not let them be a democracy, oh the irony. In fact we even threatened to steal their assets if they did not allow us to have permanent bases put there. Now that the truth is starting to emerge regarding Iraq, that we were supposed to be there forever. It kind of makes you wonder about GWBs little “mission accomplished” stunt. It makes me think it was staged to for cannon fodder for the liberal media. They never meant to leave. Hell, PNAC and Brezinski wrote about the imminent need to get into central asia back in the late 90s to control it’s oil supplies but again the liberal media was absent. No dots to be connected for the peasants, keep arguing about some of the fake debates within our buffet of fake debates.

If America wants Obamanomics, great. However, be careful what you wish for, you just might get it.

You just don’t get it. We are a banana republic regardless who gets in. It’s a done deal. The collapse is imminent. The effectiveness of either McCain or Obama to actually try to improve the situation is about as likely as somebody standing on the shore with a bucket and sponge to stop a category 5 hurricane. Actually, arguing the minute details of their tax plans, which is the only difference they have, is like worrying about a hang nail when you have a sucking chest wound. Nonsense.

The US is being thrown into Obama’s arms in a typical Hegelian Dialectic and the GOP is throwing the election like a flaming bobcat on meth. Another done deal. That is unless we have to take out Iran but I think they have abandoned that plan. Iran started trading oil in other than the USD a few months ago.

Overall, Americans refuse to acknowledge that not only do presidents and political parties not govern the United States, but they are in fact, irrelevant. The sovereignty of nations has been irreversibly eroded by corporatism and organizations such as the Bilderberg Group, the Council on Foreign Relations, and the Trilateral Commission whose agenda is the dissolution of nation-states and the global dominance of multi-national corporations.

THERE IS NO GOVERNMENT ONLY A BUREAUCRACY THAT SUPPORTS CORPORATE AND FINANCIAL INTERESTS. CITIZENS ARE IRRELEVANT.

The fact of the matter is, it is no longer profitable the maintain America and it makes absolutely no sense for the world to subsidize our way of living anymore through dollar hegemony. Our purpose has been fulfilled and now its on to a new reality. Slave camp USA here we come as the whole world gets to dump it’s toxic assets on our backs. It was a”Pump and Dump”/collateral damage in larger world domination plan.

If you don’t realize the whole civilization is run by money and energy and that is where all power gravitates, you just don’t get. Nothing else matters. And everything is to do with maintaining control of those two things. This is what the whole history of civilization is about, domination. What we have been witnessing over the past 10 years is the battle to keep control of those two things. Everything else is spoon fed propaganda to give you a narrative that you find acceptable.

We don’t have a banking crisis we have a god damn crisis of awareness But I’m just a koo-koo, nutjob so don’t listen to me.

[Arraya]

“Drill, baby, Drill,” an instant laugh for urban liberals who never drive and don’t run businesses.

No it’s good for a laugh for people that understand the physical realities of peak oil and understand no amount of drilling can change this indisputable fact. Because we like to pretend it’s not there so we can make up disney land stories about Iraq being an imminent threat. Hell, even the liberal press ignores the fact that Cheney was caught with his hand in the cookie jar in his secretive “Energy Task Force” meeting from back in 2000 with maps of Iraqi oil fields and was consulted by Matt Simmons regarding peak oil. Any progressive liberals out there want to venture a guess of why the liberal media does not touch that? Let me give you a hint. Complicity. But our press does not like dots to be connected. Because we like fake debates about whether or not is possible to bomb Iraq to a democracy. Never mind the fingerprints of oil men on Iraqi oil wells the moment when world oil production is peaking. The funny part is the Iraqi people want nothing to do with us and now we will not let them be a democracy, oh the irony. In fact we even threatened to steal their assets if they did not allow us to have permanent bases put there. Now that the truth is starting to emerge regarding Iraq, that we were supposed to be there forever. It kind of makes you wonder about GWBs little “mission accomplished” stunt. It makes me think it was staged to for cannon fodder for the liberal media. They never meant to leave. Hell, PNAC and Brezinski wrote about the imminent need to get into central asia back in the late 90s to control it’s oil supplies but again the liberal media was absent. No dots to be connected for the peasants, keep arguing about some of the fake debates within our buffet of fake debates.

If America wants Obamanomics, great. However, be careful what you wish for, you just might get it.

You just don’t get it. We are a banana republic regardless who gets in. It’s a done deal. The collapse is imminent. The effectiveness of either McCain or Obama to actually try to improve the situation is about as likely as somebody standing on the shore with a bucket and sponge to stop a category 5 hurricane. Actually, arguing the minute details of their tax plans, which is the only difference they have, is like worrying about a hang nail when you have a sucking chest wound. Nonsense.

The US is being thrown into Obama’s arms in a typical Hegelian Dialectic and the GOP is throwing the election like a flaming bobcat on meth. Another done deal. That is unless we have to take out Iran but I think they have abandoned that plan. Iran started trading oil in other than the USD a few months ago.

Overall, Americans refuse to acknowledge that not only do presidents and political parties not govern the United States, but they are in fact, irrelevant. The sovereignty of nations has been irreversibly eroded by corporatism and organizations such as the Bilderberg Group, the Council on Foreign Relations, and the Trilateral Commission whose agenda is the dissolution of nation-states and the global dominance of multi-national corporations.

THERE IS NO GOVERNMENT ONLY A BUREAUCRACY THAT SUPPORTS CORPORATE AND FINANCIAL INTERESTS. CITIZENS ARE IRRELEVANT.

The fact of the matter is, it is no longer profitable the maintain America and it makes absolutely no sense for the world to subsidize our way of living anymore through dollar hegemony. Our purpose has been fulfilled and now its on to a new reality. Slave camp USA here we come as the whole world gets to dump it’s toxic assets on our backs. It was a”Pump and Dump”/collateral damage in larger world domination plan.

If you don’t realize the whole civilization is run by money and energy and that is where all power gravitates, you just don’t get. Nothing else matters. And everything is to do with maintaining control of those two things. This is what the whole history of civilization is about, domination. What we have been witnessing over the past 10 years is the battle to keep control of those two things. Everything else is spoon fed propaganda to give you a narrative that you find acceptable.

We don’t have a banking crisis we have a god damn crisis of awareness But I’m just a koo-koo, nutjob so don’t listen to me.

[Arraya]

“Drill, baby, Drill,” an instant laugh for urban liberals who never drive and don’t run businesses.

No it’s good for a laugh for people that understand the physical realities of peak oil and understand no amount of drilling can change this indisputable fact. Because we like to pretend it’s not there so we can make up disney land stories about Iraq being an imminent threat. Hell, even the liberal press ignores the fact that Cheney was caught with his hand in the cookie jar in his secretive “Energy Task Force” meeting from back in 2000 with maps of Iraqi oil fields and was consulted by Matt Simmons regarding peak oil. Any progressive liberals out there want to venture a guess of why the liberal media does not touch that? Let me give you a hint. Complicity. But our press does not like dots to be connected. Because we like fake debates about whether or not is possible to bomb Iraq to a democracy. Never mind the fingerprints of oil men on Iraqi oil wells the moment when world oil production is peaking. The funny part is the Iraqi people want nothing to do with us and now we will not let them be a democracy, oh the irony. In fact we even threatened to steal their assets if they did not allow us to have permanent bases put there. Now that the truth is starting to emerge regarding Iraq, that we were supposed to be there forever. It kind of makes you wonder about GWBs little “mission accomplished” stunt. It makes me think it was staged to for cannon fodder for the liberal media. They never meant to leave. Hell, PNAC and Brezinski wrote about the imminent need to get into central asia back in the late 90s to control it’s oil supplies but again the liberal media was absent. No dots to be connected for the peasants, keep arguing about some of the fake debates within our buffet of fake debates.

If America wants Obamanomics, great. However, be careful what you wish for, you just might get it.

You just don’t get it. We are a banana republic regardless who gets in. It’s a done deal. The collapse is imminent. The effectiveness of either McCain or Obama to actually try to improve the situation is about as likely as somebody standing on the shore with a bucket and sponge to stop a category 5 hurricane. Actually, arguing the minute details of their tax plans, which is the only difference they have, is like worrying about a hang nail when you have a sucking chest wound. Nonsense.

The US is being thrown into Obama’s arms in a typical Hegelian Dialectic and the GOP is throwing the election like a flaming bobcat on meth. Another done deal. That is unless we have to take out Iran but I think they have abandoned that plan. Iran started trading oil in other than the USD a few months ago.

Overall, Americans refuse to acknowledge that not only do presidents and political parties not govern the United States, but they are in fact, irrelevant. The sovereignty of nations has been irreversibly eroded by corporatism and organizations such as the Bilderberg Group, the Council on Foreign Relations, and the Trilateral Commission whose agenda is the dissolution of nation-states and the global dominance of multi-national corporations.

THERE IS NO GOVERNMENT ONLY A BUREAUCRACY THAT SUPPORTS CORPORATE AND FINANCIAL INTERESTS. CITIZENS ARE IRRELEVANT.

The fact of the matter is, it is no longer profitable the maintain America and it makes absolutely no sense for the world to subsidize our way of living anymore through dollar hegemony. Our purpose has been fulfilled and now its on to a new reality. Slave camp USA here we come as the whole world gets to dump it’s toxic assets on our backs. It was a”Pump and Dump”/collateral damage in larger world domination plan.

If you don’t realize the whole civilization is run by money and energy and that is where all power gravitates, you just don’t get. Nothing else matters. And everything is to do with maintaining control of those two things. This is what the whole history of civilization is about, domination. What we have been witnessing over the past 10 years is the battle to keep control of those two things. Everything else is spoon fed propaganda to give you a narrative that you find acceptable.

We don’t have a banking crisis we have a god damn crisis of awareness But I’m just a koo-koo, nutjob so don’t listen to me.

[Veritas]

Gandalf-

I am against the bailout because I agree with Rich. The people who got us into it are not the ones to get us out. I am economically more aligned with Adam Smith, than Barney Frank. I think we might be repeating the history of Rome, but not taking as long to disintegrate from within due to excessive taxation and corruption of public officials. I would prefer a flat tax and for those who say it unfairly targets the poor, then why are cigarettes and liguor taxed? Those target the poor more than the rich. End of rant. Good luck to all those businessmen like you Gandalf who are the ones keeping the economy alive. The next four years regardless of which side occupies the White House will be difficult for all.

[Veritas]

Gandalf-

I am against the bailout because I agree with Rich. The people who got us into it are not the ones to get us out. I am economically more aligned with Adam Smith, than Barney Frank. I think we might be repeating the history of Rome, but not taking as long to disintegrate from within due to excessive taxation and corruption of public officials. I would prefer a flat tax and for those who say it unfairly targets the poor, then why are cigarettes and liguor taxed? Those target the poor more than the rich. End of rant. Good luck to all those businessmen like you Gandalf who are the ones keeping the economy alive. The next four years regardless of which side occupies the White House will be difficult for all.

[Veritas]

Gandalf-

I am against the bailout because I agree with Rich. The people who got us into it are not the ones to get us out. I am economically more aligned with Adam Smith, than Barney Frank. I think we might be repeating the history of Rome, but not taking as long to disintegrate from within due to excessive taxation and corruption of public officials. I would prefer a flat tax and for those who say it unfairly targets the poor, then why are cigarettes and liguor taxed? Those target the poor more than the rich. End of rant. Good luck to all those businessmen like you Gandalf who are the ones keeping the economy alive. The next four years regardless of which side occupies the White House will be difficult for all.

[Veritas]

Gandalf-

I am against the bailout because I agree with Rich. The people who got us into it are not the ones to get us out. I am economically more aligned with Adam Smith, than Barney Frank. I think we might be repeating the history of Rome, but not taking as long to disintegrate from within due to excessive taxation and corruption of public officials. I would prefer a flat tax and for those who say it unfairly targets the poor, then why are cigarettes and liguor taxed? Those target the poor more than the rich. End of rant. Good luck to all those businessmen like you Gandalf who are the ones keeping the economy alive. The next four years regardless of which side occupies the White House will be difficult for all.

[Veritas]

Gandalf-

I am against the bailout because I agree with Rich. The people who got us into it are not the ones to get us out. I am economically more aligned with Adam Smith, than Barney Frank. I think we might be repeating the history of Rome, but not taking as long to disintegrate from within due to excessive taxation and corruption of public officials. I would prefer a flat tax and for those who say it unfairly targets the poor, then why are cigarettes and liguor taxed? Those target the poor more than the rich. End of rant. Good luck to all those businessmen like you Gandalf who are the ones keeping the economy alive. The next four years regardless of which side occupies the White House will be difficult for all.

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