OT: Sad Day in California – Kelly Thomas Verdict

[paramount]

IMO a shocking, disqusting verdict of not guilty for these (2) psychopath cops.

I attribute this ‘travesty’ of justice to the following:

1. The dominate collective culture of Orange County California which is racist, hateful to those who are homeless/economically disadvantaged and full of small minded gun loving jesus loving boot lickers. Temecula has an element of the OC “white trash/ultra conservative” mentality as well.

2. POS Orange County DA Tony Rackauckas I knew from the beginning this case was rigged when he was trying the case. A special prosecutor should have been appointed to prosecute the case, someone without stated political ambitions. The OC DA and the cops are in bed together.

3. These idiot jurors just sent the following message to cops (previously implied): Kill at Will.

4. The POS Police Unions and their one party political bitches in California that have escalated police brutality/excessive force via BS like “Cop Bill of Rights” which is code for: we can and will kill you with no consequence (justified or not).

[spdrun]

Nothing stopping the Feds from charging the cops with civil rights violations. Double jeopardy doesn’t apply since they’re a different jurisdiction and the offense is different.

[ucodegen]

The dominate collective culture of Orange County California which is racist, hateful to those who are homeless/economically disadvantaged and full of small minded gun loving jesus loving boot lickers. Temecula has an element of the OC “white trash/ultra conservative” mentality as well.

You have no clue. This conservative, pro-gun, ‘white-trash’, ‘uneducated’, ‘inbread’ individual despises the verdict. While you claim to understand the ‘conservative mind’ and individual, you don’t. In fact your portrayal of their ‘anti-government’ attitude is in direct conflict of your portrayal of their liking authority(boot licking). You can’t argue black and white at the same time.
— I suspect the prosecution failed, didn’t try. Unfortunately the prosecutors office and police department are often too closely associated. The jury can only go on what is presented.
NOTE: The reason some ‘ultra conservatives’ are so strongly against gun control is because they feel that personal ownership of firearms are the last bastion against a government gone tyrannical. BTW: Police department, FBI, NSA are all extensions of the executive office of the government. Congresses and Senates are extensions of the Legislative and Judges/Courts are extensions of the Judicial. Make sure you understand the structure, chain of authority and interrelations before you point blame.

[paramount]

[quote=ucodegen]

You have no clue. [/quote]

I know exactly what I’m talking about, IMO you are seeing ideologies linearly. And I know plenty about white trash unfortunately.

Please see exhibit A below.

Orange County is full of white trash ultra right winger authoritarians.

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[zk]

Not sure about the politics of it, but I agree it’s a sad day. Those bastards murdered Kelly Thomas. And they should be in prison for the rest of their lives.

Cops have tough jobs. Sometimes they have to make life-and-death decisions and sometimes they only have a fraction of a second to make those decisions. Sometimes they get those split-second decisions wrong. In those cases, the cops need to be protected from prosecution. Nobody can get every split-second, life-and-death decision right.

This, obviously, wasn’t like that.

[paramount]

[quote=zk]

This, obviously, wasn’t like that.[/quote]

While not stated in the constitution (which has been rendered nearly worthless…), any american even remotely paying attention is no longer free to live without fear of the govt, fear of the police.

[spdrun]

^^^

Were we ever free to not live in fear? Kent State? Ludlow Coal Massacre? Birmingham ’63? Tompkins Square Police Riot? Johnny Gammage? Need I go on?

[paramount]

[quote=spdrun]^^^

Were we ever free to not live in fear? Kent State? Ludlow Coal Massacre? Birmingham ’63? Tompkins Square Police Riot? Johnny Gammage? Need I go on?[/quote]

True, and this verdict will have far ranging and affirming implications. This is a jury with blood on their hands.

It’s not unlikely that you or you’re family could be stopped in LA County or Orange County (even while obeying the law…) and assume you have no rights/justice, your life and dignity as a person means nothing – and you or you’re family could be killed for next to nothing.

Orange County California is a shit hole in just about every meaningful way. It really is…

california has a created an environment where it’s open season on john q public, all psychopath’s encouraged to apply to get your badge/hunting license today.

california: you will pay with your wallet, and you may also pay with your life.

[spdrun]

What’s your obsession with Orange County hatred? The county doesn’t hire cops — individual towns do, and it varies by town. Some may hire thugs and incompetents, others may vet their applicants better.

And I’m sure that there are many places with brutal cops outside of Orange County, CA. BTW – I don’t think the problem is anything new in California. LAPD had a reputation for nastiness and corruption likely well before you were born — 20s through 60s.

I know a few people who grew up in various parts of OC — they seem like decent people to me, not trashy or whatever you think of them.

[scaredyclassic]

The average cop is a decent person.

[Anonymous]

The average person is decent person.

In a civilized society, people who say they are “going to fuck you up” and then proceed to take action that takes another’s life are not decent people. They are criminals.

[spdrun]

Looks like one of the cops wants his job back, and is suing to get it back…

http://ktla.com/2014/01/15/ex-officer-acquitted-in-kelly-thomas-death-wants-his-job-back/

[NotCranky]

Decent is a pretty broad range in my book. Not really that bad or good just not a monster or a saint. I would like my cops to not be on the low end of decent but the system seems to demand that most be that way….so this slippage to the dark side is inevitable.

[paramount]

Anyone know of a good iphone/android app that will record evidence and upload it to the cloud (realtime)?

For example: If you get pulled over you press a button on your iphone and document the incident *to the cloud*.

[spdrun]

Bambuser and Qik have this functionality. Also, various ACLU chapters have released mobile software.

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