OT: Public pay & benefits

[jficquette]

[quote=CA renter][quote=jficquette][quote=Aecetia]professional cop or firefighter/paramedic?[/quote]

CA Renter,

It’s nonsense that you would not save money by getting rid of the overpaid unionized government employees in public safety.

Public cost per year counting retirement is about $250k-$300k depending on how long they live which in this day and time is pushing 100 years old. Private pay would be about $75k per year.

That report on Iraq was written by an overpaid unionized government worker and is as bias as all government reports are. Even if it wasn’t slanted don’t you realize that fighting a war in Iraq is different then public safety in America? It’s not even Apples and Apples.

[Coronita]

I don’t know why all the negativity about a private security or firefighting squad.

Maybe the answer is a for-profit fire department in which folks pay monthly dues (kinda like insurance)…Of course there should be an option to “opt-out” of paying a portion of taxes to fund the public version…

As far as “you get what you pay for” in terms of police. I wonder with the true costs of having beat police versus funding the pensions. (don’t know)…I don’t know but, seems to me that I wouldn’t mind hiring blackwater to be my private security guard if it was affordable….Shoot first ask questions later…How’s that any different from what SDPD does currently? 🙂

[Coronita]

I don’t know why all the negativity about a private security or firefighting squad.

Maybe the answer is a for-profit fire department in which folks pay monthly dues (kinda like insurance)…Of course there should be an option to “opt-out” of paying a portion of taxes to fund the public version…

As far as “you get what you pay for” in terms of police. I wonder with the true costs of having beat police versus funding the pensions. (don’t know)…I don’t know but, seems to me that I wouldn’t mind hiring blackwater to be my private security guard if it was affordable….Shoot first ask questions later…How’s that any different from what SDPD does currently? 🙂

[Coronita]

I don’t know why all the negativity about a private security or firefighting squad.

Maybe the answer is a for-profit fire department in which folks pay monthly dues (kinda like insurance)…Of course there should be an option to “opt-out” of paying a portion of taxes to fund the public version…

As far as “you get what you pay for” in terms of police. I wonder with the true costs of having beat police versus funding the pensions. (don’t know)…I don’t know but, seems to me that I wouldn’t mind hiring blackwater to be my private security guard if it was affordable….Shoot first ask questions later…How’s that any different from what SDPD does currently? 🙂

[Coronita]

I don’t know why all the negativity about a private security or firefighting squad.

Maybe the answer is a for-profit fire department in which folks pay monthly dues (kinda like insurance)…Of course there should be an option to “opt-out” of paying a portion of taxes to fund the public version…

As far as “you get what you pay for” in terms of police. I wonder with the true costs of having beat police versus funding the pensions. (don’t know)…I don’t know but, seems to me that I wouldn’t mind hiring blackwater to be my private security guard if it was affordable….Shoot first ask questions later…How’s that any different from what SDPD does currently? 🙂

[Coronita]

I don’t know why all the negativity about a private security or firefighting squad.

Maybe the answer is a for-profit fire department in which folks pay monthly dues (kinda like insurance)…Of course there should be an option to “opt-out” of paying a portion of taxes to fund the public version…

As far as “you get what you pay for” in terms of police. I wonder with the true costs of having beat police versus funding the pensions. (don’t know)…I don’t know but, seems to me that I wouldn’t mind hiring blackwater to be my private security guard if it was affordable….Shoot first ask questions later…How’s that any different from what SDPD does currently? 🙂

[jstoesz]

The reason for Blackwater was not because it was to save money. The reason for private security forces was because the government could not adequately and in a timely manner respond to the needs of the contractors. So, instead of wait for the marines to show up and provide security for their operation, they hired a firm who was directly under their control.

We have a great military, but nimble it is not.

[jstoesz]

The reason for Blackwater was not because it was to save money. The reason for private security forces was because the government could not adequately and in a timely manner respond to the needs of the contractors. So, instead of wait for the marines to show up and provide security for their operation, they hired a firm who was directly under their control.

We have a great military, but nimble it is not.

[jstoesz]

The reason for Blackwater was not because it was to save money. The reason for private security forces was because the government could not adequately and in a timely manner respond to the needs of the contractors. So, instead of wait for the marines to show up and provide security for their operation, they hired a firm who was directly under their control.

We have a great military, but nimble it is not.

[jstoesz]

The reason for Blackwater was not because it was to save money. The reason for private security forces was because the government could not adequately and in a timely manner respond to the needs of the contractors. So, instead of wait for the marines to show up and provide security for their operation, they hired a firm who was directly under their control.

We have a great military, but nimble it is not.

[jstoesz]

The reason for Blackwater was not because it was to save money. The reason for private security forces was because the government could not adequately and in a timely manner respond to the needs of the contractors. So, instead of wait for the marines to show up and provide security for their operation, they hired a firm who was directly under their control.

We have a great military, but nimble it is not.

[jstoesz]

As to the privatize debate with regards to the city, I would tell you to talk to any paramedic. Ask him if he would rather work for a private ambulance service (very common) or a firehouse…

I guarantee we are losing money with the public medics.

[jstoesz]

As to the privatize debate with regards to the city, I would tell you to talk to any paramedic. Ask him if he would rather work for a private ambulance service (very common) or a firehouse…

I guarantee we are losing money with the public medics.

[jstoesz]

As to the privatize debate with regards to the city, I would tell you to talk to any paramedic. Ask him if he would rather work for a private ambulance service (very common) or a firehouse…

I guarantee we are losing money with the public medics.

[jstoesz]

As to the privatize debate with regards to the city, I would tell you to talk to any paramedic. Ask him if he would rather work for a private ambulance service (very common) or a firehouse…

I guarantee we are losing money with the public medics.

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