OT: Public employees: mistreated and misunderstood OR leeches to productivity ?

[Aecetia]

Just have to do this: DMV…..

[bearishgurl]

[quote=markmax33]Do you think the GOV should cut some of the non-critical services to an appropriate level for the employees employed? Maybe some of the spending during the fat housing bubble years should be reevaluated, or reevaluated quicker.[/quote]

markmax, this has already happened in all the jurisdictions I am familiar with. Due mainly to non-replacement of retirees, personnel has been cut back so far that one “front line employee” is now doing the work of about 2.5 workers of just 12-15 years ago. Granted, most Departments are more automated now, making employees more productive, but workers still get sick and take vacations, often leaving their post sporadically covered while out, or if not a worker who directly serves the public, uncovered. Meanwhile, the public’s needs never stop. Hence, the 9+ months of traffic convolopes piled up to be processed. In my example, the court actually DID have online DMV reporting in place. But there has to be a clerk sitting at that post to report to the DMV the traffic case outcomes as they are processed by the court clerks and the fine payments are registered in the system. Besides checking if the bail and other fines are paid, each case may have other items to check for compliance such as class attendance, group meeting attendance, traffic school attendance, etc. It’s not as quick as it seems and takes several clerks to process a traffic case, especially misdemeanors. I’ve been in my local branch court early in the morning and have seen HUNDREDS of people lined up for traffic court in one morning and at least 50 get out of line into another group to plead not guilty and ask for trials.

To an outsider, it all looks like a “clean, paper-pushing job,” but the work is relentless in a large county of a very populous state such as CA.

[(former)FormerSanDiegan]

[quote=Nor-LA-SD-GUY2]Gee I think everyone seems to be missing the point, it really does not matter what is fair or not fair.
Unsustainable is Unsustainable.
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I agree 137% !

[urbanrealtor]

[quote=FormerSanDiegan][quote=Nor-LA-SD-GUY2]Gee I think everyone seems to be missing the point, it really does not matter what is fair or not fair.
Unsustainable is Unsustainable.
[/quote]

I agree 137% ![/quote]

Wait.
What?

[(former)FormerSanDiegan]

[quote=urbanrealtor][quote=FormerSanDiegan][quote=Nor-LA-SD-GUY2]Gee I think everyone seems to be missing the point, it really does not matter what is fair or not fair.
Unsustainable is Unsustainable.
[/quote]

I agree 137% ![/quote]

Wait.
What?[/quote]

Agreeing 137% is not sustainable either, is it?

[scaredyclassic]

You borrow from future agreeableness, so you pay it off by being less agreeable in the future

[(former)FormerSanDiegan]

[quote=walterwhite]You borrow from future agreeableness, so you pay it off by being less agreeable in the future[/quote]

Classic !

[urbanrealtor]

[quote=walterwhite]You borrow from future agreeableness, so you pay it off by being less agreeable in the future[/quote]

GOOOOOAAAAAAALLLLLLLLL!!!!!!!

[urbanrealtor]

When you have a sec, check out this piece on pension meltdowns.

Liam Dillon recommended it in the current Voice page.

Looks pretty good.

http://www.governing.com/columns/public-money/col-Pension-Puffery.html

[The-Shoveler]

OK here is something kind of off this topic but kind of on target as well.

California will lead the break-up of the US (Dev 2)
IP: Likelihood 8/10. There are some indications already that California wants to split off and such pressures tend to build over time. It is hard to see this waiting until the end of the century. Maybe an East Coast cluster will want to break off too. Pressures come from the enormous differences in wealth generation capability, and people not wanting to fund others if they can avoid it.
Now if we get fusion or even wave energy generation we could desal and be independent.
We do contribute far more fed money than we ever get back so it kind of makes sense.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-16536598

[Anonymous]

[quote=urbanrealtor]When you have a sec, check out this piece on pension meltdowns.

Liam Dillon recommended it in the current Voice page.

Looks pretty good.

http://www.governing.com/columns/public-money/col-Pension-Puffery.html%5B/quote%5D

Damn good article. Thanks for posting.

Even the comments section has very insightful points.

[no_such_reality]

[quote=bearishgurl]”Boring” as my “informational posts” might be, FSD, I believe that if someone can’t competently discuss the “nitty-gritty” of reality here re: public pensions, then STFU.
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You mean the nitty gritty like the State or County paying the employee share of the retirement contribution? You know, such that the employee doesn’t actually contribute to the plan such as the prison guards…

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