OT: PSA California banning foie gras on July 1st

[an]

[quote=desmond][quote=briansd1]A free-range chicken is a happy chicken. He’s
better off than a chicken cooped up in a cage.

Neither chicken know that they eventually become meals.[/quote]

Unless you have a “chicken brain” you really do not know that either….[/quote]
Haha, chicken brain….

[sdrealtor]

Do chickens suffer from agoraphobia? It sounds like a study that needs to be undertaken by some psuedo government agency. Of course the research positions should also offer a defined benefit pension plan.

Apparently so!

http://beta.newsbiscuit.com/board/27/27/9//Scientists-successfully-breed-agoraphobi.html

[enron_by_the_sea]

Deleted. getting way OT

[The-Shoveler]

When I was a kid we would go to Grandpa’s farm in the summers.
They had what I considered free range chicken’s which I think had to be witness to several beheadings, but they still hung around (I guess home is where the coop is).

But this probably explains why I am a beer and assorted nuts guy, no chickens are harmed in their production as far as I know.

[briansd1]

The ban is not on the foie gras itself, but on products derived through force feeding.

From what I heard, the 7.5 years grace period was actually put place for a California manufacturer to adjust its practices. But the manufacturer decided not to do so.

This is an opportunity for non-force feeding foie gras makers to enter the market. Just use more liver and mix with some duck fat. Problem is that it’ll cost more because each duck/goose has only 1 liver.

July 1 is the start date of the hotly debated and divisive ban, which prohibits the sale of any product derived from the force-feeding of birds to enlarge their livers — the most common way to mass-produce foie gras. . (The law was passed in 2004, but included a seven-and-a-half-year grace period.)

[sdrealtor]

Perhaps someone will find a way to strongly encourage geese to over eat

[Coronita]

foie gras…ewwwwwweee…

Now if they ban chicken feet from dim sum…That would be heresy…. Just kidding. ewwwwwwwwwweeee.

[enron_by_the_sea]

[quote=sdrealtor]Perhaps someone will find a way to strongly encourage geese to over eat[/quote]

Do they feed them sugar ?

[briansd1]

spike the grains with corn syrup molasses. My horse gets a litle bit of that sometimes.

The easiest way to fatten up farm animals is to feed them processed grains rather than natural.

Walmart even sells animal feed in rural areas of the country:
http://www.walmart.com/ip/C.O.B.-With-Molasses-Three-Grain-Mix-Farm-Animal-Feed-40-lb/10449501

[poorgradstudent]

[quote=harvey]Just about everyone’s ethical stance regarding animal treatment has contradictions. Why are dogs and cats subject to different rules than animals bred for food? It’s ok to be cruel to something you are going to kill, but you have to be nice to something you aren’t going to kill? The list goes on…

The vegans probably have the most logically consistent framework, but I like lamb and veal way too much to go that route.[/quote]
I freely admit my own stance is pretty arbitrary. I choose to avoid veal (aka tortured baby cow) and lamb and try to minimize my beef consumption. I view chickens and fish as stupid creatures and don’t mind eating them.

Dogs provide companionship and historically were working animals. It’s the same reason humans historically don’t eat horses. They provide more economic value alive than as food. I’m not much of a cat person myself, but I imagine their meat would be pretty stringy and gamey. They also do provide potential economic value in their traditional role as hunters of rodents and pest birds.

[desmond]

I prefer wild Quail, whiter meat than you think and it does not have the “gamey” taste, although it is not as tender as a farm grown bird, not sure what wine I should have with it. I am having some tonite.

[CDMA ENG]

[quote=poorgradstudent][quote=harvey]Just about everyone’s ethical stance regarding animal treatment has contradictions. Why are dogs and cats subject to different rules than animals bred for food? It’s ok to be cruel to something you are going to kill, but you have to be nice to something you aren’t going to kill? The list goes on…

The vegans probably have the most logically consistent framework, but I like lamb and veal way too much to go that route.[/quote]
I freely admit my own stance is pretty arbitrary. I choose to avoid veal (aka tortured baby cow) and lamb and try to minimize my beef consumption. I view chickens and fish as stupid creatures and don’t mind eating them.

Dogs provide companionship and historically were working animals. It’s the same reason humans historically don’t eat horses. They provide more economic value alive than as food. I’m not much of a cat person myself, but I imagine their meat would be pretty stringy and gamey. They also do provide potential economic value in their traditional role as hunters of rodents and pest birds.[/quote]

I wouldn’t call chickens dumb… I had an ex who had a domesticated chicken. It would come when it was called and sit in your lap… It wasnt house trained but I have seen dogs that were worse than this chicken. It was a sweet animal…

Made me think about eating chicken…

CE

[enron_by_the_sea]

[quote=briansd1]

This is an opportunity for non-force feeding foie gras makers to enter the market. Just use more liver and mix with some duck fat. Problem is that it’ll cost more because each duck/goose has only 1 liver.

[/quote]

That sounds like now we are now killing 2 or more ducks to make living life of one duck better (before we kill him too). Is that supposed to be more humane :)?

[KSMountain]

[quote=SK in CV]Though I’ve never had foie gras. I suspect it’s pretty tasty.[/quote]
It’s unbelievably tasty. Agree with SDR about Sauterne pairing.

[spdrun]

There are plenty of “free range” farms in many rural parts of the US. It isn’t just Wal*Mart and factory farms, you know.

My question is as follows: will the border guards now ask you whether you’re carrying any foie gras as well as the usual questions about fruits and veggies when crossing into CA from Arizona?

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