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  • March 31, 2009 at 11:38 AM #375618
    DWCAP
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    I kinda wonder if Ford isnt pissed the hell off about this whole bailout thing. They are obviously the strongest of the domestic three, they have no bailout $$, and should be getting all the benifits of the death of GM and Chrysler. F150 could pick up alot of the Chevy/Silverado/GM full size truck segment. Good things have been said about the Focus and Fusion, and they could swallow alot of the remaining domestic car segments. A mustang even replaced the Camaro in that terrible new “knight rider” show.
    Hell, they prob could buy up Buick and a few other brands that are actually worth a few bucks and become THE domestic car manufacture. There are still alot of people out there who would buy a Ford LONG before they bought a Toyota.

    I guess they would have some supplier problems, but those could be worked out much quicker than solving the zombie automaker problem. Prob alot cheaper too.

    March 31, 2009 at 11:46 AM #374997
    an
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    [quote=flu]
    yup. Ford design is pretty interesting these days. Ford Europe is no laughing matter.

    At once upon a time, I had hoped GM would have done the same thing with Holden/Opel, bringing those designs stateside. Looks like it’s not going to happen.[/quote]
    But they are. Saturn is basically Opel US. Buick has a lot of Opel design language in them too.

    March 31, 2009 at 11:46 AM #375279
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    [quote=flu]
    yup. Ford design is pretty interesting these days. Ford Europe is no laughing matter.

    At once upon a time, I had hoped GM would have done the same thing with Holden/Opel, bringing those designs stateside. Looks like it’s not going to happen.[/quote]
    But they are. Saturn is basically Opel US. Buick has a lot of Opel design language in them too.

    March 31, 2009 at 11:46 AM #375456
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    [quote=flu]
    yup. Ford design is pretty interesting these days. Ford Europe is no laughing matter.

    At once upon a time, I had hoped GM would have done the same thing with Holden/Opel, bringing those designs stateside. Looks like it’s not going to happen.[/quote]
    But they are. Saturn is basically Opel US. Buick has a lot of Opel design language in them too.

    March 31, 2009 at 11:46 AM #375500
    an
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    [quote=flu]
    yup. Ford design is pretty interesting these days. Ford Europe is no laughing matter.

    At once upon a time, I had hoped GM would have done the same thing with Holden/Opel, bringing those designs stateside. Looks like it’s not going to happen.[/quote]
    But they are. Saturn is basically Opel US. Buick has a lot of Opel design language in them too.

    March 31, 2009 at 11:46 AM #375623
    an
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    [quote=flu]
    yup. Ford design is pretty interesting these days. Ford Europe is no laughing matter.

    At once upon a time, I had hoped GM would have done the same thing with Holden/Opel, bringing those designs stateside. Looks like it’s not going to happen.[/quote]
    But they are. Saturn is basically Opel US. Buick has a lot of Opel design language in them too.

    March 31, 2009 at 12:42 PM #375017
    Coronita
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    [quote=AN][quote=flu]
    yup. Ford design is pretty interesting these days. Ford Europe is no laughing matter.

    At once upon a time, I had hoped GM would have done the same thing with Holden/Opel, bringing those designs stateside. Looks like it’s not going to happen.[/quote]
    But they are. Saturn is basically Opel US. Buick has a lot of Opel design language in them too.[/quote]

    Saturn is not going to survive, that was my point.

    March 31, 2009 at 12:42 PM #375299
    Coronita
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    [quote=AN][quote=flu]
    yup. Ford design is pretty interesting these days. Ford Europe is no laughing matter.

    At once upon a time, I had hoped GM would have done the same thing with Holden/Opel, bringing those designs stateside. Looks like it’s not going to happen.[/quote]
    But they are. Saturn is basically Opel US. Buick has a lot of Opel design language in them too.[/quote]

    Saturn is not going to survive, that was my point.

    March 31, 2009 at 12:42 PM #375476
    Coronita
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    [quote=AN][quote=flu]
    yup. Ford design is pretty interesting these days. Ford Europe is no laughing matter.

    At once upon a time, I had hoped GM would have done the same thing with Holden/Opel, bringing those designs stateside. Looks like it’s not going to happen.[/quote]
    But they are. Saturn is basically Opel US. Buick has a lot of Opel design language in them too.[/quote]

    Saturn is not going to survive, that was my point.

    March 31, 2009 at 12:42 PM #375520
    Coronita
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    [quote=AN][quote=flu]
    yup. Ford design is pretty interesting these days. Ford Europe is no laughing matter.

    At once upon a time, I had hoped GM would have done the same thing with Holden/Opel, bringing those designs stateside. Looks like it’s not going to happen.[/quote]
    But they are. Saturn is basically Opel US. Buick has a lot of Opel design language in them too.[/quote]

    Saturn is not going to survive, that was my point.

    March 31, 2009 at 12:42 PM #375643
    Coronita
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    [quote=AN][quote=flu]
    yup. Ford design is pretty interesting these days. Ford Europe is no laughing matter.

    At once upon a time, I had hoped GM would have done the same thing with Holden/Opel, bringing those designs stateside. Looks like it’s not going to happen.[/quote]
    But they are. Saturn is basically Opel US. Buick has a lot of Opel design language in them too.[/quote]

    Saturn is not going to survive, that was my point.

    March 31, 2009 at 2:56 PM #375042
    Ash Housewares
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    [quote]yup. Ford design is pretty interesting these days. Ford Europe is no laughing matter.

    At once upon a time, I had hoped GM would have done the same thing with Holden/Opel, bringing those designs stateside. Looks like it’s not going to happen.[/quote]

    I second this! GM has a pretty kickass Holden/HSV passenger car lineup. You see these cars everywhere in Australia/NZ, the sort of market dominance the Ford Taurus had in the 80s. I’d buy one over a boring Toyota anyday if these were in the US.

    Holden Commodore:
    http://www.holden.co.nz/vehicle/commodore/

    HSV
    http://www.hsv.com.au/cars/Eseries/senatorsignature/senatorsignature.asp

    They even have the car/pickup crossover thing, so no need to buy a big truck for the home immprovement types:
    http://www.holden.co.nz/vehicle/ute-ve/

    March 31, 2009 at 2:56 PM #375324
    Ash Housewares
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    [quote]yup. Ford design is pretty interesting these days. Ford Europe is no laughing matter.

    At once upon a time, I had hoped GM would have done the same thing with Holden/Opel, bringing those designs stateside. Looks like it’s not going to happen.[/quote]

    I second this! GM has a pretty kickass Holden/HSV passenger car lineup. You see these cars everywhere in Australia/NZ, the sort of market dominance the Ford Taurus had in the 80s. I’d buy one over a boring Toyota anyday if these were in the US.

    Holden Commodore:
    http://www.holden.co.nz/vehicle/commodore/

    HSV
    http://www.hsv.com.au/cars/Eseries/senatorsignature/senatorsignature.asp

    They even have the car/pickup crossover thing, so no need to buy a big truck for the home immprovement types:
    http://www.holden.co.nz/vehicle/ute-ve/

    March 31, 2009 at 2:56 PM #375501
    Ash Housewares
    Participant

    [quote]yup. Ford design is pretty interesting these days. Ford Europe is no laughing matter.

    At once upon a time, I had hoped GM would have done the same thing with Holden/Opel, bringing those designs stateside. Looks like it’s not going to happen.[/quote]

    I second this! GM has a pretty kickass Holden/HSV passenger car lineup. You see these cars everywhere in Australia/NZ, the sort of market dominance the Ford Taurus had in the 80s. I’d buy one over a boring Toyota anyday if these were in the US.

    Holden Commodore:
    http://www.holden.co.nz/vehicle/commodore/

    HSV
    http://www.hsv.com.au/cars/Eseries/senatorsignature/senatorsignature.asp

    They even have the car/pickup crossover thing, so no need to buy a big truck for the home immprovement types:
    http://www.holden.co.nz/vehicle/ute-ve/

    March 31, 2009 at 2:56 PM #375545
    Ash Housewares
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    [quote]yup. Ford design is pretty interesting these days. Ford Europe is no laughing matter.

    At once upon a time, I had hoped GM would have done the same thing with Holden/Opel, bringing those designs stateside. Looks like it’s not going to happen.[/quote]

    I second this! GM has a pretty kickass Holden/HSV passenger car lineup. You see these cars everywhere in Australia/NZ, the sort of market dominance the Ford Taurus had in the 80s. I’d buy one over a boring Toyota anyday if these were in the US.

    Holden Commodore:
    http://www.holden.co.nz/vehicle/commodore/

    HSV
    http://www.hsv.com.au/cars/Eseries/senatorsignature/senatorsignature.asp

    They even have the car/pickup crossover thing, so no need to buy a big truck for the home immprovement types:
    http://www.holden.co.nz/vehicle/ute-ve/

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