OT: New “Move Over” Law

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[quote=garysears]I agree that excessive speed can kill but it isn’t the main issue. The main issue is that idiot not paying attention who is about to do something irrational, for whom looking down the road is not the #1 priority. Driving slower wouldn’t necessarily mean fewer accidents. There are a ridiculous number of fender benders in stop and go traffic.

Most speed limits are overly conservative because they account for worst case scenarious with a HUGE margin thrown in. The fact is driving is really too easy. I am a more dangerous driver when I am mindlesslessly driving along on the interstate at 60mph because I go off into a daydream out of boredom. That lack of awareness is what kills.

Speed limits and fines are nothing more than a revenue generator for the state. They are set in such a way to really hamper the way the majority of the people would normally, safely operate vehicles. That restriction is why people resent and don’t respect speed limits. Fines don’t change behavior and frankly moderate speeding isn’t dangerous. It is more about relative speed (faster or even worse slower).

I think a better method of reducing accidents would be to just hold people accountable for failures. Absolutely hammer people at fault for any accident, no matter how minor. I’m talking several thousand dollar fine for a fender bender. Maybe license suspension/revocation if you are at fault in an accident. That incentive would make people pay attention and reduce fatalities while freeing drivers from the heavy hand of our nanny state.[/quote]

While I see some of what you say about speed limits/state income, I tend to disagree that nailing people to the wall for accidents would reduce accidents. We nail people for drunk driving, and yet people still drive drunk. It isnt even an education thing, cause there is drunk driving education/warnings all over the freaking place. We know it is wrong, we know it is dangerous, and yet we still do it. The only thing nailing people for every little in infraction would do effectivly is increase the number of people leaving the site of an accident.

[LAAFTERHOURS]

[quote=scaredycat]the speed LIMIT is the actual liimit, not a suggested minimum. even in the left lane. speed kills. forget drunk driving. we could save way more lives if eevryone would just slow the fvck down…to the spped limit as the max, or perhaps, even slower![/quote]

I dont agree with this. On highways with 4 lanes or more, they should increase the speed much more or remove the speed limit in the left lane (where there are no mergers coming from the left). They should implement the left lane is for passing only and set a minimum speed limit of the max posted speed for the left lane. If implemented, this would reduce the number of clowns in ricerockets weaving in and out of lanes because the idiots that sit in the left lane (failing to move over) would be reduced. And keep in mind, Im not talking going 150 on a 65, im talking upping the speed limit to 90 on roads like the 15 and the 5 in selective areas. The part south of san clemente/ north of Pendleton is a prime example.

Speeding tickets on highways should be the last thing a cop issues, as there are far larger issues everywhere:

Talking on a phone,
Texting on a phone
Failing to move over to the right when being overtaken by a faster moving vehicle
The above item leads to weaving vehicles
Failing to use turn signals (this shit blows my mind in terms of how many people cant lift their lazy arms to signal)

Cops dont issue enough tickets for the above items and they are more of a problem than speeding on a highway.

The fatality rate is lower on the Autobahn than on US Interstates. Speed doesnt kill, inexperienced drivers and hesitant/ defensive drivers kill.

[LAAFTERHOURS]

[quote=scaredycat]the speed LIMIT is the actual liimit, not a suggested minimum. even in the left lane. speed kills. forget drunk driving. we could save way more lives if eevryone would just slow the fvck down…to the spped limit as the max, or perhaps, even slower![/quote]

I dont agree with this. On highways with 4 lanes or more, they should increase the speed much more or remove the speed limit in the left lane (where there are no mergers coming from the left). They should implement the left lane is for passing only and set a minimum speed limit of the max posted speed for the left lane. If implemented, this would reduce the number of clowns in ricerockets weaving in and out of lanes because the idiots that sit in the left lane (failing to move over) would be reduced. And keep in mind, Im not talking going 150 on a 65, im talking upping the speed limit to 90 on roads like the 15 and the 5 in selective areas. The part south of san clemente/ north of Pendleton is a prime example.

Speeding tickets on highways should be the last thing a cop issues, as there are far larger issues everywhere:

Talking on a phone,
Texting on a phone
Failing to move over to the right when being overtaken by a faster moving vehicle
The above item leads to weaving vehicles
Failing to use turn signals (this shit blows my mind in terms of how many people cant lift their lazy arms to signal)

Cops dont issue enough tickets for the above items and they are more of a problem than speeding on a highway.

The fatality rate is lower on the Autobahn than on US Interstates. Speed doesnt kill, inexperienced drivers and hesitant/ defensive drivers kill.

[LAAFTERHOURS]

[quote=scaredycat]the speed LIMIT is the actual liimit, not a suggested minimum. even in the left lane. speed kills. forget drunk driving. we could save way more lives if eevryone would just slow the fvck down…to the spped limit as the max, or perhaps, even slower![/quote]

I dont agree with this. On highways with 4 lanes or more, they should increase the speed much more or remove the speed limit in the left lane (where there are no mergers coming from the left). They should implement the left lane is for passing only and set a minimum speed limit of the max posted speed for the left lane. If implemented, this would reduce the number of clowns in ricerockets weaving in and out of lanes because the idiots that sit in the left lane (failing to move over) would be reduced. And keep in mind, Im not talking going 150 on a 65, im talking upping the speed limit to 90 on roads like the 15 and the 5 in selective areas. The part south of san clemente/ north of Pendleton is a prime example.

Speeding tickets on highways should be the last thing a cop issues, as there are far larger issues everywhere:

Talking on a phone,
Texting on a phone
Failing to move over to the right when being overtaken by a faster moving vehicle
The above item leads to weaving vehicles
Failing to use turn signals (this shit blows my mind in terms of how many people cant lift their lazy arms to signal)

Cops dont issue enough tickets for the above items and they are more of a problem than speeding on a highway.

The fatality rate is lower on the Autobahn than on US Interstates. Speed doesnt kill, inexperienced drivers and hesitant/ defensive drivers kill.

[LAAFTERHOURS]

[quote=scaredycat]the speed LIMIT is the actual liimit, not a suggested minimum. even in the left lane. speed kills. forget drunk driving. we could save way more lives if eevryone would just slow the fvck down…to the spped limit as the max, or perhaps, even slower![/quote]

I dont agree with this. On highways with 4 lanes or more, they should increase the speed much more or remove the speed limit in the left lane (where there are no mergers coming from the left). They should implement the left lane is for passing only and set a minimum speed limit of the max posted speed for the left lane. If implemented, this would reduce the number of clowns in ricerockets weaving in and out of lanes because the idiots that sit in the left lane (failing to move over) would be reduced. And keep in mind, Im not talking going 150 on a 65, im talking upping the speed limit to 90 on roads like the 15 and the 5 in selective areas. The part south of san clemente/ north of Pendleton is a prime example.

Speeding tickets on highways should be the last thing a cop issues, as there are far larger issues everywhere:

Talking on a phone,
Texting on a phone
Failing to move over to the right when being overtaken by a faster moving vehicle
The above item leads to weaving vehicles
Failing to use turn signals (this shit blows my mind in terms of how many people cant lift their lazy arms to signal)

Cops dont issue enough tickets for the above items and they are more of a problem than speeding on a highway.

The fatality rate is lower on the Autobahn than on US Interstates. Speed doesnt kill, inexperienced drivers and hesitant/ defensive drivers kill.

[LAAFTERHOURS]

[quote=scaredycat]the speed LIMIT is the actual liimit, not a suggested minimum. even in the left lane. speed kills. forget drunk driving. we could save way more lives if eevryone would just slow the fvck down…to the spped limit as the max, or perhaps, even slower![/quote]

I dont agree with this. On highways with 4 lanes or more, they should increase the speed much more or remove the speed limit in the left lane (where there are no mergers coming from the left). They should implement the left lane is for passing only and set a minimum speed limit of the max posted speed for the left lane. If implemented, this would reduce the number of clowns in ricerockets weaving in and out of lanes because the idiots that sit in the left lane (failing to move over) would be reduced. And keep in mind, Im not talking going 150 on a 65, im talking upping the speed limit to 90 on roads like the 15 and the 5 in selective areas. The part south of san clemente/ north of Pendleton is a prime example.

Speeding tickets on highways should be the last thing a cop issues, as there are far larger issues everywhere:

Talking on a phone,
Texting on a phone
Failing to move over to the right when being overtaken by a faster moving vehicle
The above item leads to weaving vehicles
Failing to use turn signals (this shit blows my mind in terms of how many people cant lift their lazy arms to signal)

Cops dont issue enough tickets for the above items and they are more of a problem than speeding on a highway.

The fatality rate is lower on the Autobahn than on US Interstates. Speed doesnt kill, inexperienced drivers and hesitant/ defensive drivers kill.

[svelte]

[quote=LAAFTERHOURS]
The fatality rate is lower on the Autobahn than on US Interstates. Speed doesnt kill, inexperienced drivers and hesitant/ defensive drivers kill.[/quote]

I don’t know….seems to me that if everything was left the same but the speed limit dropped to 5 mph, there would be fewer deaths. Speed has to have *something* to do with traffic deaths…

[svelte]

[quote=LAAFTERHOURS]
The fatality rate is lower on the Autobahn than on US Interstates. Speed doesnt kill, inexperienced drivers and hesitant/ defensive drivers kill.[/quote]

I don’t know….seems to me that if everything was left the same but the speed limit dropped to 5 mph, there would be fewer deaths. Speed has to have *something* to do with traffic deaths…

[svelte]

[quote=LAAFTERHOURS]
The fatality rate is lower on the Autobahn than on US Interstates. Speed doesnt kill, inexperienced drivers and hesitant/ defensive drivers kill.[/quote]

I don’t know….seems to me that if everything was left the same but the speed limit dropped to 5 mph, there would be fewer deaths. Speed has to have *something* to do with traffic deaths…

[svelte]

[quote=LAAFTERHOURS]
The fatality rate is lower on the Autobahn than on US Interstates. Speed doesnt kill, inexperienced drivers and hesitant/ defensive drivers kill.[/quote]

I don’t know….seems to me that if everything was left the same but the speed limit dropped to 5 mph, there would be fewer deaths. Speed has to have *something* to do with traffic deaths…

[svelte]

[quote=LAAFTERHOURS]
The fatality rate is lower on the Autobahn than on US Interstates. Speed doesnt kill, inexperienced drivers and hesitant/ defensive drivers kill.[/quote]

I don’t know….seems to me that if everything was left the same but the speed limit dropped to 5 mph, there would be fewer deaths. Speed has to have *something* to do with traffic deaths…

[LAAFTERHOURS]

[quote=svelte][quote=LAAFTERHOURS]
The fatality rate is lower on the Autobahn than on US Interstates. Speed doesnt kill, inexperienced drivers and hesitant/ defensive drivers kill.[/quote]

I don’t know….seems to me that if everything was left the same but the speed limit dropped to 5 mph, there would be fewer deaths. Speed has to have *something* to do with traffic deaths…[/quote]

Agreed speed has something to do with it. I just think there are larger issues on the highways. Speeding in residential is a whole different issue.

[LAAFTERHOURS]

[quote=svelte][quote=LAAFTERHOURS]
The fatality rate is lower on the Autobahn than on US Interstates. Speed doesnt kill, inexperienced drivers and hesitant/ defensive drivers kill.[/quote]

I don’t know….seems to me that if everything was left the same but the speed limit dropped to 5 mph, there would be fewer deaths. Speed has to have *something* to do with traffic deaths…[/quote]

Agreed speed has something to do with it. I just think there are larger issues on the highways. Speeding in residential is a whole different issue.

[LAAFTERHOURS]

[quote=svelte][quote=LAAFTERHOURS]
The fatality rate is lower on the Autobahn than on US Interstates. Speed doesnt kill, inexperienced drivers and hesitant/ defensive drivers kill.[/quote]

I don’t know….seems to me that if everything was left the same but the speed limit dropped to 5 mph, there would be fewer deaths. Speed has to have *something* to do with traffic deaths…[/quote]

Agreed speed has something to do with it. I just think there are larger issues on the highways. Speeding in residential is a whole different issue.

[LAAFTERHOURS]

[quote=svelte][quote=LAAFTERHOURS]
The fatality rate is lower on the Autobahn than on US Interstates. Speed doesnt kill, inexperienced drivers and hesitant/ defensive drivers kill.[/quote]

I don’t know….seems to me that if everything was left the same but the speed limit dropped to 5 mph, there would be fewer deaths. Speed has to have *something* to do with traffic deaths…[/quote]

Agreed speed has something to do with it. I just think there are larger issues on the highways. Speeding in residential is a whole different issue.

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