OT: looks like we fired on Libya…..

[Jazzman]

[quote=zk][quote=surveyor][quote=zk]Surveyor, I’d be interested to hear any remotely plausible scenarios where this doesn’t stay there.[/quote]

We obviously don’t care about the citizens of any country enough to engage in military operations or extremely expensive projects on their behalf. If we did, the world would be a different place. It’s strictly for our own interests. So, why is it in our interests for gadhafi to lose? What’s our long-term plan? Have we thought this through? What, exactly, are we trying to accomplish?
[/quote]

These are all good questions we should be asking, since answers to them haven’t been well articulated by our leaders. I think the US may well have been persuaded to help with this one, as part of a quid pro quo to allies, and part a Muslim-world public relations exercise. It is heralded as a humanitarian intervention which is nothing new, but the gamble is making it look so when many will just see it as an extension of it’s meddling in the Middle East.

I think this could go three ways: It becomes long and drawn out, and involves ground forces, or the rebels prevail, but are not so friendly, or it is a success and creates an atmosphere of reform in the region.

[Jazzman]

[quote=UCGal]I guess comparing someone to the French is no longer a slur… We can go back to calling freedom fries, french fries because the French are so macho.

There are some news “analysists” and talk show hosts who might have to rework their jokes.[/quote]

Funny, I thought the French got that one right. Iraq was a success?

[Jazzman]

[quote=UCGal]I guess comparing someone to the French is no longer a slur… We can go back to calling freedom fries, french fries because the French are so macho.

There are some news “analysists” and talk show hosts who might have to rework their jokes.[/quote]

Funny, I thought the French got that one right. Iraq was a success?

[Jazzman]

[quote=UCGal]I guess comparing someone to the French is no longer a slur… We can go back to calling freedom fries, french fries because the French are so macho.

There are some news “analysists” and talk show hosts who might have to rework their jokes.[/quote]

Funny, I thought the French got that one right. Iraq was a success?

[Jazzman]

[quote=UCGal]I guess comparing someone to the French is no longer a slur… We can go back to calling freedom fries, french fries because the French are so macho.

There are some news “analysists” and talk show hosts who might have to rework their jokes.[/quote]

Funny, I thought the French got that one right. Iraq was a success?

[Jazzman]

[quote=UCGal]I guess comparing someone to the French is no longer a slur… We can go back to calling freedom fries, french fries because the French are so macho.

There are some news “analysists” and talk show hosts who might have to rework their jokes.[/quote]

Funny, I thought the French got that one right. Iraq was a success?

[Arraya]

[quote=UCGal][quote=ninaprincess]Air war is much cheaper than ground war. I think this is US’s message to other Arab nations (Iran, and mainly Saudi) that we are willing to take side so don’t piss us off. Stupid Saudis got very mad with the US when their friend Mubarak got disposed and blamed it on the US.[/quote]
In theory the League of Arab Nations signed on to this offensive.

And we’re seriously avoiding the issue with Saudi troops in Bahrain helping the Bahraini government crack down on protesters there.

http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2011/03/21/bahrain-launches-military-crackdown

I don’t think we’re sending a message to the Saudi’s… or else we’d make *some* kind of statement about Bahrain.[/quote]

Sec. Gates and Mullen where there just before the crack down. It looks like it was approved. There is a stark contrast between American values and interests. Interests always take priority.

[Arraya]

[quote=UCGal][quote=ninaprincess]Air war is much cheaper than ground war. I think this is US’s message to other Arab nations (Iran, and mainly Saudi) that we are willing to take side so don’t piss us off. Stupid Saudis got very mad with the US when their friend Mubarak got disposed and blamed it on the US.[/quote]
In theory the League of Arab Nations signed on to this offensive.

And we’re seriously avoiding the issue with Saudi troops in Bahrain helping the Bahraini government crack down on protesters there.

http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2011/03/21/bahrain-launches-military-crackdown

I don’t think we’re sending a message to the Saudi’s… or else we’d make *some* kind of statement about Bahrain.[/quote]

Sec. Gates and Mullen where there just before the crack down. It looks like it was approved. There is a stark contrast between American values and interests. Interests always take priority.

[Arraya]

[quote=UCGal][quote=ninaprincess]Air war is much cheaper than ground war. I think this is US’s message to other Arab nations (Iran, and mainly Saudi) that we are willing to take side so don’t piss us off. Stupid Saudis got very mad with the US when their friend Mubarak got disposed and blamed it on the US.[/quote]
In theory the League of Arab Nations signed on to this offensive.

And we’re seriously avoiding the issue with Saudi troops in Bahrain helping the Bahraini government crack down on protesters there.

http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2011/03/21/bahrain-launches-military-crackdown

I don’t think we’re sending a message to the Saudi’s… or else we’d make *some* kind of statement about Bahrain.[/quote]

Sec. Gates and Mullen where there just before the crack down. It looks like it was approved. There is a stark contrast between American values and interests. Interests always take priority.

[Arraya]

[quote=UCGal][quote=ninaprincess]Air war is much cheaper than ground war. I think this is US’s message to other Arab nations (Iran, and mainly Saudi) that we are willing to take side so don’t piss us off. Stupid Saudis got very mad with the US when their friend Mubarak got disposed and blamed it on the US.[/quote]
In theory the League of Arab Nations signed on to this offensive.

And we’re seriously avoiding the issue with Saudi troops in Bahrain helping the Bahraini government crack down on protesters there.

http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2011/03/21/bahrain-launches-military-crackdown

I don’t think we’re sending a message to the Saudi’s… or else we’d make *some* kind of statement about Bahrain.[/quote]

Sec. Gates and Mullen where there just before the crack down. It looks like it was approved. There is a stark contrast between American values and interests. Interests always take priority.

[Arraya]

[quote=UCGal][quote=ninaprincess]Air war is much cheaper than ground war. I think this is US’s message to other Arab nations (Iran, and mainly Saudi) that we are willing to take side so don’t piss us off. Stupid Saudis got very mad with the US when their friend Mubarak got disposed and blamed it on the US.[/quote]
In theory the League of Arab Nations signed on to this offensive.

And we’re seriously avoiding the issue with Saudi troops in Bahrain helping the Bahraini government crack down on protesters there.

http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2011/03/21/bahrain-launches-military-crackdown

I don’t think we’re sending a message to the Saudi’s… or else we’d make *some* kind of statement about Bahrain.[/quote]

Sec. Gates and Mullen where there just before the crack down. It looks like it was approved. There is a stark contrast between American values and interests. Interests always take priority.

[briansd1]

It looks like the policy of strategic patience is working in Lybia. Time will tell.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/08/16/clinton-libya-syria-show-smart-power-at-work/

[briansd1]

It looks like the policy of strategic patience is working in Lybia. Time will tell.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/08/16/clinton-libya-syria-show-smart-power-at-work/

[briansd1]

It looks like the policy of strategic patience is working in Lybia. Time will tell.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/08/16/clinton-libya-syria-show-smart-power-at-work/

[briansd1]

It looks like the policy of strategic patience is working in Lybia. Time will tell.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/08/16/clinton-libya-syria-show-smart-power-at-work/

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