OT – Joe the Plumber

[patientlywaiting]

Something did not sound right about Joe the Plumber.

1) McCain clearly rehearsed this and was prepared to bring it up.

2) Is Joe making $250k in gross revenues or net income (after expense but before taxes)? If his small plumbing business can make $250k profit after salaries (perhaps to himself, his wife and other relatives), all expenses and depreciation (non cash expense), then he’s not doing badly as a tradesman.

3) How much is he buying the business for?

4) Did the McCain campaign or Republican operatives put Joe up to this stunt?

5) McCain sounds desperate and pulling stunts after stunts (suspending campaign saying the would not debate, then debating; opposing the bailout, then adopting Hillary’s plan, etc…). Clearly erratic.

If you watched the debate, what did you think about Joe the Plumber?

[scaredyclassic]

my wife and I felt he was making too much dang money to feel too bad for the dude. if it’s 250 gross, all right, but i thought he had to be taking home 250k to be hurt by obama. anyone making over 250k, hard to feel too bad about a bit higher tax bill. on the other hand, it is fascinating how poorer people identify with wealthier people’s issues and vote against their own self-interest to be part of the richer crowd. Kind of irrational. I bet there’s research in this area, but joe the plumber is an odd hybrid. working class image, low wage, coupled with fairly successful business. hell,. most lawyers and doctors dont make 250k. i don’t think mccain scored any real points with that…

[scaredyclassic]

my wife and I felt he was making too much dang money to feel too bad for the dude. if it’s 250 gross, all right, but i thought he had to be taking home 250k to be hurt by obama. anyone making over 250k, hard to feel too bad about a bit higher tax bill. on the other hand, it is fascinating how poorer people identify with wealthier people’s issues and vote against their own self-interest to be part of the richer crowd. Kind of irrational. I bet there’s research in this area, but joe the plumber is an odd hybrid. working class image, low wage, coupled with fairly successful business. hell,. most lawyers and doctors dont make 250k. i don’t think mccain scored any real points with that…

[scaredyclassic]

my wife and I felt he was making too much dang money to feel too bad for the dude. if it’s 250 gross, all right, but i thought he had to be taking home 250k to be hurt by obama. anyone making over 250k, hard to feel too bad about a bit higher tax bill. on the other hand, it is fascinating how poorer people identify with wealthier people’s issues and vote against their own self-interest to be part of the richer crowd. Kind of irrational. I bet there’s research in this area, but joe the plumber is an odd hybrid. working class image, low wage, coupled with fairly successful business. hell,. most lawyers and doctors dont make 250k. i don’t think mccain scored any real points with that…

[scaredyclassic]

my wife and I felt he was making too much dang money to feel too bad for the dude. if it’s 250 gross, all right, but i thought he had to be taking home 250k to be hurt by obama. anyone making over 250k, hard to feel too bad about a bit higher tax bill. on the other hand, it is fascinating how poorer people identify with wealthier people’s issues and vote against their own self-interest to be part of the richer crowd. Kind of irrational. I bet there’s research in this area, but joe the plumber is an odd hybrid. working class image, low wage, coupled with fairly successful business. hell,. most lawyers and doctors dont make 250k. i don’t think mccain scored any real points with that…

[scaredyclassic]

my wife and I felt he was making too much dang money to feel too bad for the dude. if it’s 250 gross, all right, but i thought he had to be taking home 250k to be hurt by obama. anyone making over 250k, hard to feel too bad about a bit higher tax bill. on the other hand, it is fascinating how poorer people identify with wealthier people’s issues and vote against their own self-interest to be part of the richer crowd. Kind of irrational. I bet there’s research in this area, but joe the plumber is an odd hybrid. working class image, low wage, coupled with fairly successful business. hell,. most lawyers and doctors dont make 250k. i don’t think mccain scored any real points with that…

[Enorah]

It is fear. Fear does it every time. Some are very susceptible to being scared onto a certain path. Many who feel disenfranchised and afraid flock to the “republican” politicians. And said politicians know this.

[Enorah]

It is fear. Fear does it every time. Some are very susceptible to being scared onto a certain path. Many who feel disenfranchised and afraid flock to the “republican” politicians. And said politicians know this.

[Enorah]

It is fear. Fear does it every time. Some are very susceptible to being scared onto a certain path. Many who feel disenfranchised and afraid flock to the “republican” politicians. And said politicians know this.

[Enorah]

It is fear. Fear does it every time. Some are very susceptible to being scared onto a certain path. Many who feel disenfranchised and afraid flock to the “republican” politicians. And said politicians know this.

[Enorah]

It is fear. Fear does it every time. Some are very susceptible to being scared onto a certain path. Many who feel disenfranchised and afraid flock to the “republican” politicians. And said politicians know this.

[TheBreeze]

I’ve heard enough about this Joe the Plumber character. I guess he is supposed to embody the middle class or something. And whoever heard of a plumber who works 10-12 hour days 7 days a week? What a crock of shit.

The really ridiculous thing is that even if Joe’s business is netting $300K, he would only have a marginal increase of 3% on his last $50K of income. That comes out to an extra tax burden of $1500, or an additional .5% of his total income. I can’t believe so much time was wasted in the debate talking about how some super-rich guy would have to pay an extra 0.5% of his income in taxes. Totally ridiculous.

It will probably turn out that Joe’s business doesn’t even net $250K, so he will have no tax increase whatsoever. Talking about this joker is a total waste of time.

I doubt that Joe the Plumber resonated with many folks in this day and age. Maybe he would have played better back in the dot-com bubble when everyone was going to get rich or in the era when everyone was an entrepreneurial house flipper, but most folks today are just worried about keeping their jobs. They sure as hell won’t be worrying about some quarter-million-dollars-a-year plumber who maybe has to give up an extra day or so’s work a year to taxes.

[TheBreeze]

I’ve heard enough about this Joe the Plumber character. I guess he is supposed to embody the middle class or something. And whoever heard of a plumber who works 10-12 hour days 7 days a week? What a crock of shit.

The really ridiculous thing is that even if Joe’s business is netting $300K, he would only have a marginal increase of 3% on his last $50K of income. That comes out to an extra tax burden of $1500, or an additional .5% of his total income. I can’t believe so much time was wasted in the debate talking about how some super-rich guy would have to pay an extra 0.5% of his income in taxes. Totally ridiculous.

It will probably turn out that Joe’s business doesn’t even net $250K, so he will have no tax increase whatsoever. Talking about this joker is a total waste of time.

I doubt that Joe the Plumber resonated with many folks in this day and age. Maybe he would have played better back in the dot-com bubble when everyone was going to get rich or in the era when everyone was an entrepreneurial house flipper, but most folks today are just worried about keeping their jobs. They sure as hell won’t be worrying about some quarter-million-dollars-a-year plumber who maybe has to give up an extra day or so’s work a year to taxes.

[TheBreeze]

I’ve heard enough about this Joe the Plumber character. I guess he is supposed to embody the middle class or something. And whoever heard of a plumber who works 10-12 hour days 7 days a week? What a crock of shit.

The really ridiculous thing is that even if Joe’s business is netting $300K, he would only have a marginal increase of 3% on his last $50K of income. That comes out to an extra tax burden of $1500, or an additional .5% of his total income. I can’t believe so much time was wasted in the debate talking about how some super-rich guy would have to pay an extra 0.5% of his income in taxes. Totally ridiculous.

It will probably turn out that Joe’s business doesn’t even net $250K, so he will have no tax increase whatsoever. Talking about this joker is a total waste of time.

I doubt that Joe the Plumber resonated with many folks in this day and age. Maybe he would have played better back in the dot-com bubble when everyone was going to get rich or in the era when everyone was an entrepreneurial house flipper, but most folks today are just worried about keeping their jobs. They sure as hell won’t be worrying about some quarter-million-dollars-a-year plumber who maybe has to give up an extra day or so’s work a year to taxes.

[TheBreeze]

I’ve heard enough about this Joe the Plumber character. I guess he is supposed to embody the middle class or something. And whoever heard of a plumber who works 10-12 hour days 7 days a week? What a crock of shit.

The really ridiculous thing is that even if Joe’s business is netting $300K, he would only have a marginal increase of 3% on his last $50K of income. That comes out to an extra tax burden of $1500, or an additional .5% of his total income. I can’t believe so much time was wasted in the debate talking about how some super-rich guy would have to pay an extra 0.5% of his income in taxes. Totally ridiculous.

It will probably turn out that Joe’s business doesn’t even net $250K, so he will have no tax increase whatsoever. Talking about this joker is a total waste of time.

I doubt that Joe the Plumber resonated with many folks in this day and age. Maybe he would have played better back in the dot-com bubble when everyone was going to get rich or in the era when everyone was an entrepreneurial house flipper, but most folks today are just worried about keeping their jobs. They sure as hell won’t be worrying about some quarter-million-dollars-a-year plumber who maybe has to give up an extra day or so’s work a year to taxes.

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