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April 30, 2010 at 12:54 AM #546095April 30, 2010 at 5:50 AM #545154creechrrParticipant
I came across one of these about 2.5 years ago near the intersection of Black Mountain Rd. and Carmel Mountain Rd. in PQ. Just a Flu describe; an officer (Highway Patrol I think) was selecting cars to be stopped.
I prompty went home, stripped the parts of the modified Civic I had at the time and sold everything, car included. It was getting to be too much of a hassle to drive the car around town, even being a second/fun car.
Between the constant threat of theft and “The Man” eyeballing me. I would literally get followed for blocks, I assume trying to come up with a reason to stop me.
The odd part about all this CARB sticker nonsense is, the car was “smogged” with non CARB legal parts in place and actually ran cleaner than stock. Of course the car wouldn’t pass the visual inspection portion of the test without the appropriate stickers.
April 30, 2010 at 5:50 AM #545267creechrrParticipantI came across one of these about 2.5 years ago near the intersection of Black Mountain Rd. and Carmel Mountain Rd. in PQ. Just a Flu describe; an officer (Highway Patrol I think) was selecting cars to be stopped.
I prompty went home, stripped the parts of the modified Civic I had at the time and sold everything, car included. It was getting to be too much of a hassle to drive the car around town, even being a second/fun car.
Between the constant threat of theft and “The Man” eyeballing me. I would literally get followed for blocks, I assume trying to come up with a reason to stop me.
The odd part about all this CARB sticker nonsense is, the car was “smogged” with non CARB legal parts in place and actually ran cleaner than stock. Of course the car wouldn’t pass the visual inspection portion of the test without the appropriate stickers.
April 30, 2010 at 5:50 AM #545747creechrrParticipantI came across one of these about 2.5 years ago near the intersection of Black Mountain Rd. and Carmel Mountain Rd. in PQ. Just a Flu describe; an officer (Highway Patrol I think) was selecting cars to be stopped.
I prompty went home, stripped the parts of the modified Civic I had at the time and sold everything, car included. It was getting to be too much of a hassle to drive the car around town, even being a second/fun car.
Between the constant threat of theft and “The Man” eyeballing me. I would literally get followed for blocks, I assume trying to come up with a reason to stop me.
The odd part about all this CARB sticker nonsense is, the car was “smogged” with non CARB legal parts in place and actually ran cleaner than stock. Of course the car wouldn’t pass the visual inspection portion of the test without the appropriate stickers.
April 30, 2010 at 5:50 AM #545843creechrrParticipantI came across one of these about 2.5 years ago near the intersection of Black Mountain Rd. and Carmel Mountain Rd. in PQ. Just a Flu describe; an officer (Highway Patrol I think) was selecting cars to be stopped.
I prompty went home, stripped the parts of the modified Civic I had at the time and sold everything, car included. It was getting to be too much of a hassle to drive the car around town, even being a second/fun car.
Between the constant threat of theft and “The Man” eyeballing me. I would literally get followed for blocks, I assume trying to come up with a reason to stop me.
The odd part about all this CARB sticker nonsense is, the car was “smogged” with non CARB legal parts in place and actually ran cleaner than stock. Of course the car wouldn’t pass the visual inspection portion of the test without the appropriate stickers.
April 30, 2010 at 5:50 AM #546115creechrrParticipantI came across one of these about 2.5 years ago near the intersection of Black Mountain Rd. and Carmel Mountain Rd. in PQ. Just a Flu describe; an officer (Highway Patrol I think) was selecting cars to be stopped.
I prompty went home, stripped the parts of the modified Civic I had at the time and sold everything, car included. It was getting to be too much of a hassle to drive the car around town, even being a second/fun car.
Between the constant threat of theft and “The Man” eyeballing me. I would literally get followed for blocks, I assume trying to come up with a reason to stop me.
The odd part about all this CARB sticker nonsense is, the car was “smogged” with non CARB legal parts in place and actually ran cleaner than stock. Of course the car wouldn’t pass the visual inspection portion of the test without the appropriate stickers.
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April 30, 2010 at 5:13 PM #545409ucodegenParticipantKinda hard to prove it was the shop’s fault if it doesn’t match up. For instance, I could have had a cat on the car going into the shop and taken the cat off after passing. (not that I would do that).
The newer catalytic converters do not create an exhaust obstruction. They are a ‘honey-comb’ design and you can almost look right through them. The older ‘bead’ type could get obstructed though. The newer cats are actually less of an obstruction than a muffler.
The odd part about all this CARB sticker nonsense is, the car was “smogged” with non CARB legal parts in place and actually ran cleaner than stock.
Some of the earlier legal replacement parts didn’t have EO/CARB numbers stamped on them. This is a problem for my old truck(have to keep the paperwork). Many performance parts will also make the vehicle run cleaner. The whole CARB thing is really screwy. Do you know that it is not legal to switch a emissions regulated carburetor car over to fuel injection, even though that does significantly reduce emissions and increase gas mileage. It is ‘tampering’ with the existing emissions equipment.
The initial ‘premise’ on how the emissions laws were written, was that the manufacturers could get a cleaner running car than most anyone else. This is contradicted by the fact that there were many advances in the technology that US auto manufacturers declined to put into production. There were people back in the mid/late 1920’s that were building dual overhead cam versions of the Ford model T engine (which is an flathead or L head). Oddly, one of these were “Louis and Arthur Chevrolet”, called the “Motel T Ford Frontenac”. Others were Jack Gallivan (Model T Gallivan), Harry Miller.
It took the Japanese producing overhead cam and fuel injected engines across their models lines, for technology to be placed into production by the US manufacturers. The US manufacturers ignored the German cars (which also had the tech) because they considered them ‘fringe/specialty/luxury’ cars. (Mercedes Benz was using OHC in the late 20’s, early 30’s)
April 30, 2010 at 5:13 PM #545522ucodegenParticipantKinda hard to prove it was the shop’s fault if it doesn’t match up. For instance, I could have had a cat on the car going into the shop and taken the cat off after passing. (not that I would do that).
The newer catalytic converters do not create an exhaust obstruction. They are a ‘honey-comb’ design and you can almost look right through them. The older ‘bead’ type could get obstructed though. The newer cats are actually less of an obstruction than a muffler.
The odd part about all this CARB sticker nonsense is, the car was “smogged” with non CARB legal parts in place and actually ran cleaner than stock.
Some of the earlier legal replacement parts didn’t have EO/CARB numbers stamped on them. This is a problem for my old truck(have to keep the paperwork). Many performance parts will also make the vehicle run cleaner. The whole CARB thing is really screwy. Do you know that it is not legal to switch a emissions regulated carburetor car over to fuel injection, even though that does significantly reduce emissions and increase gas mileage. It is ‘tampering’ with the existing emissions equipment.
The initial ‘premise’ on how the emissions laws were written, was that the manufacturers could get a cleaner running car than most anyone else. This is contradicted by the fact that there were many advances in the technology that US auto manufacturers declined to put into production. There were people back in the mid/late 1920’s that were building dual overhead cam versions of the Ford model T engine (which is an flathead or L head). Oddly, one of these were “Louis and Arthur Chevrolet”, called the “Motel T Ford Frontenac”. Others were Jack Gallivan (Model T Gallivan), Harry Miller.
It took the Japanese producing overhead cam and fuel injected engines across their models lines, for technology to be placed into production by the US manufacturers. The US manufacturers ignored the German cars (which also had the tech) because they considered them ‘fringe/specialty/luxury’ cars. (Mercedes Benz was using OHC in the late 20’s, early 30’s)
April 30, 2010 at 5:13 PM #546001ucodegenParticipantKinda hard to prove it was the shop’s fault if it doesn’t match up. For instance, I could have had a cat on the car going into the shop and taken the cat off after passing. (not that I would do that).
The newer catalytic converters do not create an exhaust obstruction. They are a ‘honey-comb’ design and you can almost look right through them. The older ‘bead’ type could get obstructed though. The newer cats are actually less of an obstruction than a muffler.
The odd part about all this CARB sticker nonsense is, the car was “smogged” with non CARB legal parts in place and actually ran cleaner than stock.
Some of the earlier legal replacement parts didn’t have EO/CARB numbers stamped on them. This is a problem for my old truck(have to keep the paperwork). Many performance parts will also make the vehicle run cleaner. The whole CARB thing is really screwy. Do you know that it is not legal to switch a emissions regulated carburetor car over to fuel injection, even though that does significantly reduce emissions and increase gas mileage. It is ‘tampering’ with the existing emissions equipment.
The initial ‘premise’ on how the emissions laws were written, was that the manufacturers could get a cleaner running car than most anyone else. This is contradicted by the fact that there were many advances in the technology that US auto manufacturers declined to put into production. There were people back in the mid/late 1920’s that were building dual overhead cam versions of the Ford model T engine (which is an flathead or L head). Oddly, one of these were “Louis and Arthur Chevrolet”, called the “Motel T Ford Frontenac”. Others were Jack Gallivan (Model T Gallivan), Harry Miller.
It took the Japanese producing overhead cam and fuel injected engines across their models lines, for technology to be placed into production by the US manufacturers. The US manufacturers ignored the German cars (which also had the tech) because they considered them ‘fringe/specialty/luxury’ cars. (Mercedes Benz was using OHC in the late 20’s, early 30’s)
April 30, 2010 at 5:13 PM #546098ucodegenParticipantKinda hard to prove it was the shop’s fault if it doesn’t match up. For instance, I could have had a cat on the car going into the shop and taken the cat off after passing. (not that I would do that).
The newer catalytic converters do not create an exhaust obstruction. They are a ‘honey-comb’ design and you can almost look right through them. The older ‘bead’ type could get obstructed though. The newer cats are actually less of an obstruction than a muffler.
The odd part about all this CARB sticker nonsense is, the car was “smogged” with non CARB legal parts in place and actually ran cleaner than stock.
Some of the earlier legal replacement parts didn’t have EO/CARB numbers stamped on them. This is a problem for my old truck(have to keep the paperwork). Many performance parts will also make the vehicle run cleaner. The whole CARB thing is really screwy. Do you know that it is not legal to switch a emissions regulated carburetor car over to fuel injection, even though that does significantly reduce emissions and increase gas mileage. It is ‘tampering’ with the existing emissions equipment.
The initial ‘premise’ on how the emissions laws were written, was that the manufacturers could get a cleaner running car than most anyone else. This is contradicted by the fact that there were many advances in the technology that US auto manufacturers declined to put into production. There were people back in the mid/late 1920’s that were building dual overhead cam versions of the Ford model T engine (which is an flathead or L head). Oddly, one of these were “Louis and Arthur Chevrolet”, called the “Motel T Ford Frontenac”. Others were Jack Gallivan (Model T Gallivan), Harry Miller.
It took the Japanese producing overhead cam and fuel injected engines across their models lines, for technology to be placed into production by the US manufacturers. The US manufacturers ignored the German cars (which also had the tech) because they considered them ‘fringe/specialty/luxury’ cars. (Mercedes Benz was using OHC in the late 20’s, early 30’s)
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