OT – GOP is being carried to the extreme

[surveyor]

[quote=briansd1]
Containment of Iraq worked well for several decades. Suddenly we had to invade because “it’s different this time.”

Despite our traditions of Civil Liberties Bush needed the Patriot Act because “it’s different this time.”
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Wait a minute, you’re accusing conservatives of rigidity and then you’re complaining when they do respond? The problem with your logic is that you fail to mention that the death of almost 3000 of our citizens on our home soil was enough of a reason for us to consider taking the fight to our enemies and for creating new measures to protect the American populace.

[quote=briansd1]The Christian religious nutcases believed that world was flat for hundreds of years although the Greeks knew otherwise. It sure took them a long time to be convinced otherwise.

Still today certain conservative elements don’t believe in evolution. Should we wait for another couple hundred years for the proof?[/quote]

Hmmmmm….. Interesting statement you made. I had to look it up because I remembered reading it in a book awhile back….

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myth_of_the_Flat_Earth

“David Lindberg and Ronald Numbers also write: “there was scarcely a Christian scholar of the Middle Ages who did not acknowledge [Earth’s] sphericity and even know its approximate circumference.”[3]”

Wow. Even I could not believe how totally wrong you were.

By the way, you should also know that the Catholic Church, the largest Christian denomination, has accepted evolution and teaches it. It did take a neutral view of it in 1950 and accepted it later.

Maybe you should reconsider some of your prejudices towards christians. Just a thought. It seems your prejudices are so medieval.

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[quote=surveyor]The problem with your logic is that you fail to mention that the death of almost 3000 of our citizens on our home soil was enough of a reason for us to consider taking the fight to our enemies and for creating new measures to protect the American populace.[/quote]

The problem with your logic is that we’ve now lost well over 3,000 of our citizens in a war with a nation that has absolutely nothing to do with the 3,000 citizens who we are supposedly avenging.

If you think about it that way, Bin Laden and the Saudis killed way more than the 3,000 on 9/11. Mission accomplished, indeed.

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[quote=surveyor]The problem with your logic is that you fail to mention that the death of almost 3000 of our citizens on our home soil was enough of a reason for us to consider taking the fight to our enemies and for creating new measures to protect the American populace.[/quote]

The problem with your logic is that we’ve now lost well over 3,000 of our citizens in a war with a nation that has absolutely nothing to do with the 3,000 citizens who we are supposedly avenging.

If you think about it that way, Bin Laden and the Saudis killed way more than the 3,000 on 9/11. Mission accomplished, indeed.

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[quote=surveyor]The problem with your logic is that you fail to mention that the death of almost 3000 of our citizens on our home soil was enough of a reason for us to consider taking the fight to our enemies and for creating new measures to protect the American populace.[/quote]

The problem with your logic is that we’ve now lost well over 3,000 of our citizens in a war with a nation that has absolutely nothing to do with the 3,000 citizens who we are supposedly avenging.

If you think about it that way, Bin Laden and the Saudis killed way more than the 3,000 on 9/11. Mission accomplished, indeed.

[afx114]

[quote=surveyor]The problem with your logic is that you fail to mention that the death of almost 3000 of our citizens on our home soil was enough of a reason for us to consider taking the fight to our enemies and for creating new measures to protect the American populace.[/quote]

The problem with your logic is that we’ve now lost well over 3,000 of our citizens in a war with a nation that has absolutely nothing to do with the 3,000 citizens who we are supposedly avenging.

If you think about it that way, Bin Laden and the Saudis killed way more than the 3,000 on 9/11. Mission accomplished, indeed.

[afx114]

[quote=surveyor]The problem with your logic is that you fail to mention that the death of almost 3000 of our citizens on our home soil was enough of a reason for us to consider taking the fight to our enemies and for creating new measures to protect the American populace.[/quote]

The problem with your logic is that we’ve now lost well over 3,000 of our citizens in a war with a nation that has absolutely nothing to do with the 3,000 citizens who we are supposedly avenging.

If you think about it that way, Bin Laden and the Saudis killed way more than the 3,000 on 9/11. Mission accomplished, indeed.

[briansd1]

There goes another nutcase conservative icon:

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2009/09/carrie-prejean-values-voter-summit-gay-marraige.html
Carrie Prejean to Values Voter Summit: ‘God chose me’ with the gay-marriage question

To the Values Voter crowd’s immense delight, she added: “As I saw my goals and aspirations flash by me, I knew God had a plan for me… God chose me for that moment. He knew I was strong enough to get through all the junk that I have been through.”

“Even though I didn’t win the crown that night,” said Prejean, tearing up, “I know the Lord has so much of a bigger crown in heaven for me.”

[briansd1]

There goes another nutcase conservative icon:

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2009/09/carrie-prejean-values-voter-summit-gay-marraige.html
Carrie Prejean to Values Voter Summit: ‘God chose me’ with the gay-marriage question

To the Values Voter crowd’s immense delight, she added: “As I saw my goals and aspirations flash by me, I knew God had a plan for me… God chose me for that moment. He knew I was strong enough to get through all the junk that I have been through.”

“Even though I didn’t win the crown that night,” said Prejean, tearing up, “I know the Lord has so much of a bigger crown in heaven for me.”

[briansd1]

There goes another nutcase conservative icon:

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2009/09/carrie-prejean-values-voter-summit-gay-marraige.html
Carrie Prejean to Values Voter Summit: ‘God chose me’ with the gay-marriage question

To the Values Voter crowd’s immense delight, she added: “As I saw my goals and aspirations flash by me, I knew God had a plan for me… God chose me for that moment. He knew I was strong enough to get through all the junk that I have been through.”

“Even though I didn’t win the crown that night,” said Prejean, tearing up, “I know the Lord has so much of a bigger crown in heaven for me.”

[briansd1]

There goes another nutcase conservative icon:

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2009/09/carrie-prejean-values-voter-summit-gay-marraige.html
Carrie Prejean to Values Voter Summit: ‘God chose me’ with the gay-marriage question

To the Values Voter crowd’s immense delight, she added: “As I saw my goals and aspirations flash by me, I knew God had a plan for me… God chose me for that moment. He knew I was strong enough to get through all the junk that I have been through.”

“Even though I didn’t win the crown that night,” said Prejean, tearing up, “I know the Lord has so much of a bigger crown in heaven for me.”

[briansd1]

There goes another nutcase conservative icon:

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2009/09/carrie-prejean-values-voter-summit-gay-marraige.html
Carrie Prejean to Values Voter Summit: ‘God chose me’ with the gay-marriage question

To the Values Voter crowd’s immense delight, she added: “As I saw my goals and aspirations flash by me, I knew God had a plan for me… God chose me for that moment. He knew I was strong enough to get through all the junk that I have been through.”

“Even though I didn’t win the crown that night,” said Prejean, tearing up, “I know the Lord has so much of a bigger crown in heaven for me.”

[Allan from Fallbrook]

[quote=briansd1]There goes another nutcase conservative icon:

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2009/09/carrie-prejean-values-voter-summit-gay-marraige.html
Carrie Prejean to Values Voter Summit: ‘God chose me’ with the gay-marriage question

To the Values Voter crowd’s immense delight, she added: “As I saw my goals and aspirations flash by me, I knew God had a plan for me… God chose me for that moment. He knew I was strong enough to get through all the junk that I have been through.”

“Even though I didn’t win the crown that night,” said Prejean, tearing up, “I know the Lord has so much of a bigger crown in heaven for me.”[/quote]

Brian: How do Prejean’s and Obama’s views on gay marriage differ?

BTW, according to CBS News: Obama invokes Jesus more often than Dubya did. Does this make him a religious nutjob?

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/06/09/politics/politico/main5074470.shtml

[Allan from Fallbrook]

[quote=briansd1]There goes another nutcase conservative icon:

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2009/09/carrie-prejean-values-voter-summit-gay-marraige.html
Carrie Prejean to Values Voter Summit: ‘God chose me’ with the gay-marriage question

To the Values Voter crowd’s immense delight, she added: “As I saw my goals and aspirations flash by me, I knew God had a plan for me… God chose me for that moment. He knew I was strong enough to get through all the junk that I have been through.”

“Even though I didn’t win the crown that night,” said Prejean, tearing up, “I know the Lord has so much of a bigger crown in heaven for me.”[/quote]

Brian: How do Prejean’s and Obama’s views on gay marriage differ?

BTW, according to CBS News: Obama invokes Jesus more often than Dubya did. Does this make him a religious nutjob?

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/06/09/politics/politico/main5074470.shtml

[Allan from Fallbrook]

[quote=briansd1]There goes another nutcase conservative icon:

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2009/09/carrie-prejean-values-voter-summit-gay-marraige.html
Carrie Prejean to Values Voter Summit: ‘God chose me’ with the gay-marriage question

To the Values Voter crowd’s immense delight, she added: “As I saw my goals and aspirations flash by me, I knew God had a plan for me… God chose me for that moment. He knew I was strong enough to get through all the junk that I have been through.”

“Even though I didn’t win the crown that night,” said Prejean, tearing up, “I know the Lord has so much of a bigger crown in heaven for me.”[/quote]

Brian: How do Prejean’s and Obama’s views on gay marriage differ?

BTW, according to CBS News: Obama invokes Jesus more often than Dubya did. Does this make him a religious nutjob?

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/06/09/politics/politico/main5074470.shtml

[Allan from Fallbrook]

[quote=briansd1]There goes another nutcase conservative icon:

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2009/09/carrie-prejean-values-voter-summit-gay-marraige.html
Carrie Prejean to Values Voter Summit: ‘God chose me’ with the gay-marriage question

To the Values Voter crowd’s immense delight, she added: “As I saw my goals and aspirations flash by me, I knew God had a plan for me… God chose me for that moment. He knew I was strong enough to get through all the junk that I have been through.”

“Even though I didn’t win the crown that night,” said Prejean, tearing up, “I know the Lord has so much of a bigger crown in heaven for me.”[/quote]

Brian: How do Prejean’s and Obama’s views on gay marriage differ?

BTW, according to CBS News: Obama invokes Jesus more often than Dubya did. Does this make him a religious nutjob?

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/06/09/politics/politico/main5074470.shtml

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