OT: Estimated state budget deficit reaches $25.4 billion

[BigGovernmentIsGood]

[quote=EconProf]True conservatives want to limit government power, expand personal freedom, and allow businesses and individuals to create and prosper or fail according to their own merits.[/quote]

LMFAO! Please name one of these magical ‘true conservatives’. Are you talking about Rand Paul who recently came out in favor of earmarks, opposes a woman’s right to choose, and is in favor of BP’s continued destruction of the environment?

You people who believe in ‘true conservatives’ are incredibly easy to fool. All shysters like Rand have to do is whisper ‘smaller government’ in your ear and the next thing you know he’s saying “I’ll call you” as he walks out the door and you’re left confused and alone.

[PatentGuy]

My younger son and I drove from Ft Collins up to Laramie (taking highway 287 instead of I25 to I80) this past April (during his HS spring break first week in April) to check out the University of Wyoming. (Yes, the alma mater of Dick Cheney).

By the time you cross the state line into Wyoming (marked by the “fireworks” store in the middle of nowhere), the terrain is right out of Clint Eastwood movie (“High Plains Drifter). Was incredibly windy, and still cold enough for jackets, with patches of icy snow here and there (Laramie is more than 7K feet above sea level). Otherwise, was dirt brown.

There were snowy mountains off in the distance to the west, and the Denver airport is only three hours away at high speed on the interstate, but I can describe Laramie in 3 words: High and Dry. Or these 3 words: Windy and Desolate. Probably many other word combinations that include variations of the F word, and the word “cold.”

I dislike property and income taxes as much as anyone (who actually pays them as opposed to receives them), but no way I would make my primary residence in that part of Wyoming (unless I only had to show up for a couple of days a year). Maybe the far west side of Wyoming near Idaho is better(? – emphasis on “maybe”), but you’d be nowhere near a decent airport, and you’d have to like being cold over half the year.

[PatentGuy]

My younger son and I drove from Ft Collins up to Laramie (taking highway 287 instead of I25 to I80) this past April (during his HS spring break first week in April) to check out the University of Wyoming. (Yes, the alma mater of Dick Cheney).

By the time you cross the state line into Wyoming (marked by the “fireworks” store in the middle of nowhere), the terrain is right out of Clint Eastwood movie (“High Plains Drifter). Was incredibly windy, and still cold enough for jackets, with patches of icy snow here and there (Laramie is more than 7K feet above sea level). Otherwise, was dirt brown.

There were snowy mountains off in the distance to the west, and the Denver airport is only three hours away at high speed on the interstate, but I can describe Laramie in 3 words: High and Dry. Or these 3 words: Windy and Desolate. Probably many other word combinations that include variations of the F word, and the word “cold.”

I dislike property and income taxes as much as anyone (who actually pays them as opposed to receives them), but no way I would make my primary residence in that part of Wyoming (unless I only had to show up for a couple of days a year). Maybe the far west side of Wyoming near Idaho is better(? – emphasis on “maybe”), but you’d be nowhere near a decent airport, and you’d have to like being cold over half the year.

[PatentGuy]

My younger son and I drove from Ft Collins up to Laramie (taking highway 287 instead of I25 to I80) this past April (during his HS spring break first week in April) to check out the University of Wyoming. (Yes, the alma mater of Dick Cheney).

By the time you cross the state line into Wyoming (marked by the “fireworks” store in the middle of nowhere), the terrain is right out of Clint Eastwood movie (“High Plains Drifter). Was incredibly windy, and still cold enough for jackets, with patches of icy snow here and there (Laramie is more than 7K feet above sea level). Otherwise, was dirt brown.

There were snowy mountains off in the distance to the west, and the Denver airport is only three hours away at high speed on the interstate, but I can describe Laramie in 3 words: High and Dry. Or these 3 words: Windy and Desolate. Probably many other word combinations that include variations of the F word, and the word “cold.”

I dislike property and income taxes as much as anyone (who actually pays them as opposed to receives them), but no way I would make my primary residence in that part of Wyoming (unless I only had to show up for a couple of days a year). Maybe the far west side of Wyoming near Idaho is better(? – emphasis on “maybe”), but you’d be nowhere near a decent airport, and you’d have to like being cold over half the year.

[PatentGuy]

My younger son and I drove from Ft Collins up to Laramie (taking highway 287 instead of I25 to I80) this past April (during his HS spring break first week in April) to check out the University of Wyoming. (Yes, the alma mater of Dick Cheney).

By the time you cross the state line into Wyoming (marked by the “fireworks” store in the middle of nowhere), the terrain is right out of Clint Eastwood movie (“High Plains Drifter). Was incredibly windy, and still cold enough for jackets, with patches of icy snow here and there (Laramie is more than 7K feet above sea level). Otherwise, was dirt brown.

There were snowy mountains off in the distance to the west, and the Denver airport is only three hours away at high speed on the interstate, but I can describe Laramie in 3 words: High and Dry. Or these 3 words: Windy and Desolate. Probably many other word combinations that include variations of the F word, and the word “cold.”

I dislike property and income taxes as much as anyone (who actually pays them as opposed to receives them), but no way I would make my primary residence in that part of Wyoming (unless I only had to show up for a couple of days a year). Maybe the far west side of Wyoming near Idaho is better(? – emphasis on “maybe”), but you’d be nowhere near a decent airport, and you’d have to like being cold over half the year.

[PatentGuy]

My younger son and I drove from Ft Collins up to Laramie (taking highway 287 instead of I25 to I80) this past April (during his HS spring break first week in April) to check out the University of Wyoming. (Yes, the alma mater of Dick Cheney).

By the time you cross the state line into Wyoming (marked by the “fireworks” store in the middle of nowhere), the terrain is right out of Clint Eastwood movie (“High Plains Drifter). Was incredibly windy, and still cold enough for jackets, with patches of icy snow here and there (Laramie is more than 7K feet above sea level). Otherwise, was dirt brown.

There were snowy mountains off in the distance to the west, and the Denver airport is only three hours away at high speed on the interstate, but I can describe Laramie in 3 words: High and Dry. Or these 3 words: Windy and Desolate. Probably many other word combinations that include variations of the F word, and the word “cold.”

I dislike property and income taxes as much as anyone (who actually pays them as opposed to receives them), but no way I would make my primary residence in that part of Wyoming (unless I only had to show up for a couple of days a year). Maybe the far west side of Wyoming near Idaho is better(? – emphasis on “maybe”), but you’d be nowhere near a decent airport, and you’d have to like being cold over half the year.

[bearishgurl]

[quote=PatentGuy]My younger son and I drove from Ft Collins up to Laramie (taking highway 287 instead of I25 to I80) this past April (during his HS spring break first week in April) to check out the University of Wyoming. . .[/quote]

So, PatentGuy, will your son be applying to the University of Wyoming??

You guys took the route which passes by my first “choice retirement” area (of the early ’80’s), Red Feather Lakes, CO.

I haven’t been back in quite a number of years but I now understand that RFL is “Fort Collins-megalopolis-adjunct” and is nearly all encumbered by HOA’s. No thanks, now :={

edit: There is commuter plane service available to/from Cheyenne (from DEN) but you would have to rent a vehicle there and drive to Laramie, anyway. It’s probably cheaper and just as fast to rent your vehicle in Denver.

[bearishgurl]

[quote=PatentGuy]My younger son and I drove from Ft Collins up to Laramie (taking highway 287 instead of I25 to I80) this past April (during his HS spring break first week in April) to check out the University of Wyoming. . .[/quote]

So, PatentGuy, will your son be applying to the University of Wyoming??

You guys took the route which passes by my first “choice retirement” area (of the early ’80’s), Red Feather Lakes, CO.

I haven’t been back in quite a number of years but I now understand that RFL is “Fort Collins-megalopolis-adjunct” and is nearly all encumbered by HOA’s. No thanks, now :={

edit: There is commuter plane service available to/from Cheyenne (from DEN) but you would have to rent a vehicle there and drive to Laramie, anyway. It’s probably cheaper and just as fast to rent your vehicle in Denver.

[bearishgurl]

[quote=PatentGuy]My younger son and I drove from Ft Collins up to Laramie (taking highway 287 instead of I25 to I80) this past April (during his HS spring break first week in April) to check out the University of Wyoming. . .[/quote]

So, PatentGuy, will your son be applying to the University of Wyoming??

You guys took the route which passes by my first “choice retirement” area (of the early ’80’s), Red Feather Lakes, CO.

I haven’t been back in quite a number of years but I now understand that RFL is “Fort Collins-megalopolis-adjunct” and is nearly all encumbered by HOA’s. No thanks, now :={

edit: There is commuter plane service available to/from Cheyenne (from DEN) but you would have to rent a vehicle there and drive to Laramie, anyway. It’s probably cheaper and just as fast to rent your vehicle in Denver.

[bearishgurl]

[quote=PatentGuy]My younger son and I drove from Ft Collins up to Laramie (taking highway 287 instead of I25 to I80) this past April (during his HS spring break first week in April) to check out the University of Wyoming. . .[/quote]

So, PatentGuy, will your son be applying to the University of Wyoming??

You guys took the route which passes by my first “choice retirement” area (of the early ’80’s), Red Feather Lakes, CO.

I haven’t been back in quite a number of years but I now understand that RFL is “Fort Collins-megalopolis-adjunct” and is nearly all encumbered by HOA’s. No thanks, now :={

edit: There is commuter plane service available to/from Cheyenne (from DEN) but you would have to rent a vehicle there and drive to Laramie, anyway. It’s probably cheaper and just as fast to rent your vehicle in Denver.

[bearishgurl]

[quote=PatentGuy]My younger son and I drove from Ft Collins up to Laramie (taking highway 287 instead of I25 to I80) this past April (during his HS spring break first week in April) to check out the University of Wyoming. . .[/quote]

So, PatentGuy, will your son be applying to the University of Wyoming??

You guys took the route which passes by my first “choice retirement” area (of the early ’80’s), Red Feather Lakes, CO.

I haven’t been back in quite a number of years but I now understand that RFL is “Fort Collins-megalopolis-adjunct” and is nearly all encumbered by HOA’s. No thanks, now :={

edit: There is commuter plane service available to/from Cheyenne (from DEN) but you would have to rent a vehicle there and drive to Laramie, anyway. It’s probably cheaper and just as fast to rent your vehicle in Denver.

[PatentGuy]

“will your son be applying to the University of Wyoming??”

Nope. He did not like the idea of living there, and I don’t blame him. And he’s not that interested in the whole frat/football thing, which is a big deal on that campus.

Univ of Wyoming does have a few things going for it, including a decent engineering program and much more reasonable tuition for out of state students (especially if they have decent HS grades and test scores) than do Colorado, Washington and Oregon (“state” or “university” in each case).

We did not visit the campus, but I understand that University of Utah (SLC) has more reason out of state tuition, but he says he wants to stay in California. Extra OT, but apparently BYU charges double tuition if you are not Mormon. Why would you want to go to BYU is you are not Mormon?

Maybe I wasn’t paying enough attention to the scenery, but there seemed to be plenty of open space outside of Ft Collins to the North/West. Most of the housing sprawl is to the south along the front range going to Loveland or to the east going to Nebraska.

[PatentGuy]

“will your son be applying to the University of Wyoming??”

Nope. He did not like the idea of living there, and I don’t blame him. And he’s not that interested in the whole frat/football thing, which is a big deal on that campus.

Univ of Wyoming does have a few things going for it, including a decent engineering program and much more reasonable tuition for out of state students (especially if they have decent HS grades and test scores) than do Colorado, Washington and Oregon (“state” or “university” in each case).

We did not visit the campus, but I understand that University of Utah (SLC) has more reason out of state tuition, but he says he wants to stay in California. Extra OT, but apparently BYU charges double tuition if you are not Mormon. Why would you want to go to BYU is you are not Mormon?

Maybe I wasn’t paying enough attention to the scenery, but there seemed to be plenty of open space outside of Ft Collins to the North/West. Most of the housing sprawl is to the south along the front range going to Loveland or to the east going to Nebraska.

[PatentGuy]

“will your son be applying to the University of Wyoming??”

Nope. He did not like the idea of living there, and I don’t blame him. And he’s not that interested in the whole frat/football thing, which is a big deal on that campus.

Univ of Wyoming does have a few things going for it, including a decent engineering program and much more reasonable tuition for out of state students (especially if they have decent HS grades and test scores) than do Colorado, Washington and Oregon (“state” or “university” in each case).

We did not visit the campus, but I understand that University of Utah (SLC) has more reason out of state tuition, but he says he wants to stay in California. Extra OT, but apparently BYU charges double tuition if you are not Mormon. Why would you want to go to BYU is you are not Mormon?

Maybe I wasn’t paying enough attention to the scenery, but there seemed to be plenty of open space outside of Ft Collins to the North/West. Most of the housing sprawl is to the south along the front range going to Loveland or to the east going to Nebraska.

[PatentGuy]

“will your son be applying to the University of Wyoming??”

Nope. He did not like the idea of living there, and I don’t blame him. And he’s not that interested in the whole frat/football thing, which is a big deal on that campus.

Univ of Wyoming does have a few things going for it, including a decent engineering program and much more reasonable tuition for out of state students (especially if they have decent HS grades and test scores) than do Colorado, Washington and Oregon (“state” or “university” in each case).

We did not visit the campus, but I understand that University of Utah (SLC) has more reason out of state tuition, but he says he wants to stay in California. Extra OT, but apparently BYU charges double tuition if you are not Mormon. Why would you want to go to BYU is you are not Mormon?

Maybe I wasn’t paying enough attention to the scenery, but there seemed to be plenty of open space outside of Ft Collins to the North/West. Most of the housing sprawl is to the south along the front range going to Loveland or to the east going to Nebraska.

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