OT: Dalai Lama

[scaredyclassic]

A mess of pottage is something immediately attractive but of little value taken foolishly and carelessly in exchange for something more distant and perhaps less tangible but immensely more valuable. The phrase alludes to Esau’s sale of his birthright for a meal (“mess”) of lentil stew (“pottage”) in Genesis 25:29-34 and connotes shortsightedness and misplaced priorities.

[scaredyclassic]

i have no ac in my house

id be happier without a car.

fridge is useful.

septic tank.

univ. education brings debt and misery.

i dont know. im not persuaded things are getting better

[ocrenter]

[quote=scaredyclassic]i have no ac in my house

id be happier without a car.

fridge is useful.

septic tank.

univ. education brings debt and misery.

i dont know. im not persuaded things are getting better[/quote]

Xi is not very happy with you right now.

[scaredyclassic]

if tibet is a money loser why wouldnt china cut it loose.

there is no place in the world for any society that is not down with massive consumption.

[FlyerInHi]

Tibetans and Uyghurs are full Chinese citizens with autonomy and “special rights,” like native Americans here. Yes, getting with the program and speaking the national language is demanded of them just like we do here.

ocrenter, look at the realities…. Trump is cutting the State Department budget, a small part of federal spending, but critical to our foreign relations. Meanwhile China is moving full speed ahead with the Belt and Road initiative to spend $1 trillion developing infrastructure in other countries. Who do you think will have more influence to affect outcomes in Asia?

The world changes over decades… some things preciously possible become impossible because of new facts on the ground. Maybe Tibetans want Llasa to become a tourist destination like Disneyland, or better even with a Trump tower. Maybe they want modern condos, cars and assets that allow them to send their kids to US universities. I doubt they want to go back. That ship already sailed, I should say sunk.

[FlyerInHi]

[quote=scaredyclassic]if tibet is a money loser why wouldnt china cut it loose.

there is no place in the world for any society that is not down with massive consumption.[/quote]

Pride, national security, whatever that means.

Tibet has mineral deposits and lots of potential. Win-win situations in the financial/growth and development sense.

Huge domestic and foreign tourism opportunities.

[FlyerInHi]

[quote=scaredyclassic]A mess of pottage is something immediately attractive but of little value taken foolishly and carelessly in exchange for something more distant and perhaps less tangible but immensely more valuable. The phrase alludes to Esau’s sale of his birthright for a meal (“mess”) of lentil stew (“pottage”) in Genesis 25:29-34 and connotes shortsightedness and misplaced priorities.[/quote]

I read about this on wikipedia. Esau didn’t learn his lesson despite becoming rich. In old age, he then again sold his burial place for a pile of gold.

[dumbrenter]

[quote=ocrenter] When did you become part of their on-line 50 cent army?[/quote]

Is it another open season on FIH?
You need to stop using 2014 data on how much their agents get paid…

[FlyerInHi]

[quote=ocrenter] When did you become part of their on-line 50 cent army?[/quote]

Haha. I believe in realistic diplomacy and engagement.
Badass behavior always backfires. Badass talk is even worse when there is no follow through. BTW, I still believe that Trump didn’t know who the president of the Republic of China was.

What has the US done to advance democracy in Asia?
The Chinese are pushing full speed ahead with Road and Belt, a massive project that the American public knows little about. And the Chinese love Trump because Hillary would be more troublesome for them. China is working on a second high speed rail to Tibet.

Read this and weep.
Time is running out for nonviolence — or Trump — to save Tibet
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/global-opinions/time-is-running-out-for-nonviolence–or-trump–to-save-tibet/2017/10/08/8ab254ba-aab6-11e7-b3aa-c0e2e1d41e38_story.html?utm_term=.a2615b103b48

[ocrenter]

[quote=FlyerInHi]

Haha. I believe in realistic diplomacy and engagement.
Badass behavior always backfires. Badass talk is even worse when there is no follow through. BTW, I still believe that Trump didn’t know who the president of the Republic of China was.

What has the US done to advance democracy in Asia?
The Chinese are pushing full speed ahead with Road and Belt, a massive project that the American public knows little about. And the Chinese love Trump because Hillary would be more troublesome for them. China is working on a second high speed rail to Tibet.

Read this and weep.
Time is running out for nonviolence — or Trump — to save Tibet
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/global-opinions/time-is-running-out-for-nonviolence–or-trump–to-save-tibet/2017/10/08/8ab254ba-aab6-11e7-b3aa-c0e2e1d41e38_story.html?utm_term=.a2615b103b48%5B/quote%5D

Tibet is gone, slow and steady genocide and assimilation have been in progress over the last 65 years.

Weep? This is raw human nature at its very best. The arrival of Homo Sapiens in Europe meant the complete extinction of the Neanderthals. The moment mankind shows up in Americas and Australia, mass extinction occurred. When the Europeans arrived in Americas, genocide and enslavement of the native population ensued. The Chinese are just doing what human beings do best. Brian, give your fellow brother a hearty slap on the back for a job well done.

[FlyerInHi]

OCrenter, I find no fault with you latest post.

I do however feel that the US has the responsibility to nudge and push China to allow more freedom for Tibet. Our criticism of China should be constructive and we should be realistic in what we can achieve.

On a humanitarian level, the old feudal system of Tibet is not best for the people. I don’t know was is best, but if we start with the premise that capitalism is best, then don’t be surprised when people are assimilated by it. They may even find ways to apply capitalism better than we do.

Is Tibet better off as a feudal, isolated country, or fully integrated in the world economy, exploiting its resources. Tibet can become a great destination with winter spas and Trump International hotels, maybe even the world’s tallest highrise on the world’s highest site.

[ocrenter]

[quote=FlyerInHi]OCrenter, I find no fault with you latest post.

I do however feel that the US has the responsibility to nudge and push China to allow more freedom for Tibet. Our criticism of China should be constructive and we should be realistic in what we can achieve.

On a humanitarian level, the old feudal system of Tibet is not best for the people. I don’t know was is best, but if we start with the premise that capitalism is best, then don’t be surprised when people are assimilated by it. They may even find ways to apply capitalism better than we do.

Is Tibet better off as a feudal, isolated country, or fully integrated in the world economy, exploiting its resources. Tibet can become a great destination with winter spas and Trump International hotels, maybe even the world’s tallest highrise on the world’s highest site.[/quote]

so essentially a Tibetan theme park.

btw, did you enjoy Emperor Xi’s 3.5 hour speech at the 19th Party Congress?

[FlyerInHi]

[quote=ocrenter]
so essentially a Tibetan theme park.
[/quote]

Kaching, kaching. Property values will go up. Tibetan property owners will be happy.
Maybe not a Trump Internarional, but before long I’m sure American tourists will be able to enjoy 5-star servive at a Shangri La hotel. Oh, there already is one. What an appropriate name.

[quote=ocrenter]
btw, did you enjoy Emperor Xi’s 3.5 hour speech at the 19th Party Congress?[/quote]

I didn’t watch it. Hu Jintao pointed to his watch when Xi returned to his seat. And Jiang Zemin dozed off during the speech.

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