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April 17, 2011 at 8:54 AM #688516April 17, 2011 at 6:57 PM #687384StaunchLibertarianParticipant
Anyone who believes in free-market principles should be against nuclear power. Nuclear power plants would not be built without federally-guaranteed loans. Private investors realize the risk is greater than the reward and will not provide financing without the government guaranteeing that the loan will be paid back.
In fact, nuclear power is so uneconomical that if the government were to purchase power on the open market and give it away for free it would be cheaper than subsidizing nuclear power plants.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/elliott-negin/the-tale-of-nuclear-disas_b_844635.html
Additionally, there is no safe, economical way to store the spent fuel. Fukushima has 26x as much nuclear fuel on site as Chernobyl simply because all of the fuel ever used there is still stored there in the spent fuel pools.
This is clearly not safe. One of the explosions blew portions of the spent fuel up to a mile away from the plant.
The U.S. has 23 nuclear plants that are just like Fukushima. They store all of the spent fuel on-site above the reactors and are ticking time bombs.
Further, decommissioning a nuclear power plant at the end of its useful life is hugely expensive. It’s a process that can last up to 50 years and cost tens of billions of dollars.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_decommissioning
Why would anyone be in favor of nuclear power? Many environmentalists are against nuclear power for obvious reasons (although some support them because they believe that they won’t contribute to global warming).
However, anyone who believes in free market principles should also be against nuclear power. Nuclear power plants would never be built in a truly free market with no federally-guaranteed loans.
April 17, 2011 at 6:57 PM #687441StaunchLibertarianParticipantAnyone who believes in free-market principles should be against nuclear power. Nuclear power plants would not be built without federally-guaranteed loans. Private investors realize the risk is greater than the reward and will not provide financing without the government guaranteeing that the loan will be paid back.
In fact, nuclear power is so uneconomical that if the government were to purchase power on the open market and give it away for free it would be cheaper than subsidizing nuclear power plants.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/elliott-negin/the-tale-of-nuclear-disas_b_844635.html
Additionally, there is no safe, economical way to store the spent fuel. Fukushima has 26x as much nuclear fuel on site as Chernobyl simply because all of the fuel ever used there is still stored there in the spent fuel pools.
This is clearly not safe. One of the explosions blew portions of the spent fuel up to a mile away from the plant.
The U.S. has 23 nuclear plants that are just like Fukushima. They store all of the spent fuel on-site above the reactors and are ticking time bombs.
Further, decommissioning a nuclear power plant at the end of its useful life is hugely expensive. It’s a process that can last up to 50 years and cost tens of billions of dollars.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_decommissioning
Why would anyone be in favor of nuclear power? Many environmentalists are against nuclear power for obvious reasons (although some support them because they believe that they won’t contribute to global warming).
However, anyone who believes in free market principles should also be against nuclear power. Nuclear power plants would never be built in a truly free market with no federally-guaranteed loans.
April 17, 2011 at 6:57 PM #688059StaunchLibertarianParticipantAnyone who believes in free-market principles should be against nuclear power. Nuclear power plants would not be built without federally-guaranteed loans. Private investors realize the risk is greater than the reward and will not provide financing without the government guaranteeing that the loan will be paid back.
In fact, nuclear power is so uneconomical that if the government were to purchase power on the open market and give it away for free it would be cheaper than subsidizing nuclear power plants.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/elliott-negin/the-tale-of-nuclear-disas_b_844635.html
Additionally, there is no safe, economical way to store the spent fuel. Fukushima has 26x as much nuclear fuel on site as Chernobyl simply because all of the fuel ever used there is still stored there in the spent fuel pools.
This is clearly not safe. One of the explosions blew portions of the spent fuel up to a mile away from the plant.
The U.S. has 23 nuclear plants that are just like Fukushima. They store all of the spent fuel on-site above the reactors and are ticking time bombs.
Further, decommissioning a nuclear power plant at the end of its useful life is hugely expensive. It’s a process that can last up to 50 years and cost tens of billions of dollars.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_decommissioning
Why would anyone be in favor of nuclear power? Many environmentalists are against nuclear power for obvious reasons (although some support them because they believe that they won’t contribute to global warming).
However, anyone who believes in free market principles should also be against nuclear power. Nuclear power plants would never be built in a truly free market with no federally-guaranteed loans.
April 17, 2011 at 6:57 PM #688200StaunchLibertarianParticipantAnyone who believes in free-market principles should be against nuclear power. Nuclear power plants would not be built without federally-guaranteed loans. Private investors realize the risk is greater than the reward and will not provide financing without the government guaranteeing that the loan will be paid back.
In fact, nuclear power is so uneconomical that if the government were to purchase power on the open market and give it away for free it would be cheaper than subsidizing nuclear power plants.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/elliott-negin/the-tale-of-nuclear-disas_b_844635.html
Additionally, there is no safe, economical way to store the spent fuel. Fukushima has 26x as much nuclear fuel on site as Chernobyl simply because all of the fuel ever used there is still stored there in the spent fuel pools.
This is clearly not safe. One of the explosions blew portions of the spent fuel up to a mile away from the plant.
The U.S. has 23 nuclear plants that are just like Fukushima. They store all of the spent fuel on-site above the reactors and are ticking time bombs.
Further, decommissioning a nuclear power plant at the end of its useful life is hugely expensive. It’s a process that can last up to 50 years and cost tens of billions of dollars.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_decommissioning
Why would anyone be in favor of nuclear power? Many environmentalists are against nuclear power for obvious reasons (although some support them because they believe that they won’t contribute to global warming).
However, anyone who believes in free market principles should also be against nuclear power. Nuclear power plants would never be built in a truly free market with no federally-guaranteed loans.
April 17, 2011 at 6:57 PM #688550StaunchLibertarianParticipantAnyone who believes in free-market principles should be against nuclear power. Nuclear power plants would not be built without federally-guaranteed loans. Private investors realize the risk is greater than the reward and will not provide financing without the government guaranteeing that the loan will be paid back.
In fact, nuclear power is so uneconomical that if the government were to purchase power on the open market and give it away for free it would be cheaper than subsidizing nuclear power plants.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/elliott-negin/the-tale-of-nuclear-disas_b_844635.html
Additionally, there is no safe, economical way to store the spent fuel. Fukushima has 26x as much nuclear fuel on site as Chernobyl simply because all of the fuel ever used there is still stored there in the spent fuel pools.
This is clearly not safe. One of the explosions blew portions of the spent fuel up to a mile away from the plant.
The U.S. has 23 nuclear plants that are just like Fukushima. They store all of the spent fuel on-site above the reactors and are ticking time bombs.
Further, decommissioning a nuclear power plant at the end of its useful life is hugely expensive. It’s a process that can last up to 50 years and cost tens of billions of dollars.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_decommissioning
Why would anyone be in favor of nuclear power? Many environmentalists are against nuclear power for obvious reasons (although some support them because they believe that they won’t contribute to global warming).
However, anyone who believes in free market principles should also be against nuclear power. Nuclear power plants would never be built in a truly free market with no federally-guaranteed loans.
April 17, 2011 at 7:45 PM #687389larrylujackParticipant[quote=StaunchLibertarian]Anyone who believes in free-market principles should be against nuclear power. Nuclear power plants would not be built without federally-guaranteed loans. Private investors realize the risk is greater than the reward and will not provide financing without the government guaranteeing that the loan will be paid back.
In fact, nuclear power is so uneconomical that if the government were to purchase power on the open market and give it away for free it would be cheaper than subsidizing nuclear power plants.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/elliott-negin/the-tale-of-nuclear-disas_b_844635.html
Additionally, there is no safe, economical way to store the spent fuel. Fukushima has 26x as much nuclear fuel on site as Chernobyl simply because all of the fuel ever used there is still stored there in the spent fuel pools.
This is clearly not safe. One of the explosions blew portions of the spent fuel up to a mile away from the plant.
The U.S. has 23 nuclear plants that are just like Fukushima. They store all of the spent fuel on-site above the reactors and are ticking time bombs.
Further, decommissioning a nuclear power plant at the end of its useful life is hugely expensive. It’s a process that can last up to 50 years and cost tens of billions of dollars.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_decommissioning
Why would anyone be in favor of nuclear power? Many environmentalists are against nuclear power for obvious reasons (although some support them because they believe that they won’t contribute to global warming).
However, anyone who believes in free market principles should also be against nuclear power. Nuclear power plants would never be built in a truly free market with no federally-guaranteed loans.[/quote]
Spot on post.
to add, 1) no insurance company will insure nuke plants due to the huge and and uncalculatable cost of potential nuke failure and 2) no financing is available without US govt loan guarantees as a subsidy.
if truly the US followed free markets, nuke power would have been buried many years ago.April 17, 2011 at 7:45 PM #687446larrylujackParticipant[quote=StaunchLibertarian]Anyone who believes in free-market principles should be against nuclear power. Nuclear power plants would not be built without federally-guaranteed loans. Private investors realize the risk is greater than the reward and will not provide financing without the government guaranteeing that the loan will be paid back.
In fact, nuclear power is so uneconomical that if the government were to purchase power on the open market and give it away for free it would be cheaper than subsidizing nuclear power plants.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/elliott-negin/the-tale-of-nuclear-disas_b_844635.html
Additionally, there is no safe, economical way to store the spent fuel. Fukushima has 26x as much nuclear fuel on site as Chernobyl simply because all of the fuel ever used there is still stored there in the spent fuel pools.
This is clearly not safe. One of the explosions blew portions of the spent fuel up to a mile away from the plant.
The U.S. has 23 nuclear plants that are just like Fukushima. They store all of the spent fuel on-site above the reactors and are ticking time bombs.
Further, decommissioning a nuclear power plant at the end of its useful life is hugely expensive. It’s a process that can last up to 50 years and cost tens of billions of dollars.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_decommissioning
Why would anyone be in favor of nuclear power? Many environmentalists are against nuclear power for obvious reasons (although some support them because they believe that they won’t contribute to global warming).
However, anyone who believes in free market principles should also be against nuclear power. Nuclear power plants would never be built in a truly free market with no federally-guaranteed loans.[/quote]
Spot on post.
to add, 1) no insurance company will insure nuke plants due to the huge and and uncalculatable cost of potential nuke failure and 2) no financing is available without US govt loan guarantees as a subsidy.
if truly the US followed free markets, nuke power would have been buried many years ago.April 17, 2011 at 7:45 PM #688063larrylujackParticipant[quote=StaunchLibertarian]Anyone who believes in free-market principles should be against nuclear power. Nuclear power plants would not be built without federally-guaranteed loans. Private investors realize the risk is greater than the reward and will not provide financing without the government guaranteeing that the loan will be paid back.
In fact, nuclear power is so uneconomical that if the government were to purchase power on the open market and give it away for free it would be cheaper than subsidizing nuclear power plants.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/elliott-negin/the-tale-of-nuclear-disas_b_844635.html
Additionally, there is no safe, economical way to store the spent fuel. Fukushima has 26x as much nuclear fuel on site as Chernobyl simply because all of the fuel ever used there is still stored there in the spent fuel pools.
This is clearly not safe. One of the explosions blew portions of the spent fuel up to a mile away from the plant.
The U.S. has 23 nuclear plants that are just like Fukushima. They store all of the spent fuel on-site above the reactors and are ticking time bombs.
Further, decommissioning a nuclear power plant at the end of its useful life is hugely expensive. It’s a process that can last up to 50 years and cost tens of billions of dollars.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_decommissioning
Why would anyone be in favor of nuclear power? Many environmentalists are against nuclear power for obvious reasons (although some support them because they believe that they won’t contribute to global warming).
However, anyone who believes in free market principles should also be against nuclear power. Nuclear power plants would never be built in a truly free market with no federally-guaranteed loans.[/quote]
Spot on post.
to add, 1) no insurance company will insure nuke plants due to the huge and and uncalculatable cost of potential nuke failure and 2) no financing is available without US govt loan guarantees as a subsidy.
if truly the US followed free markets, nuke power would have been buried many years ago.April 17, 2011 at 7:45 PM #688205larrylujackParticipant[quote=StaunchLibertarian]Anyone who believes in free-market principles should be against nuclear power. Nuclear power plants would not be built without federally-guaranteed loans. Private investors realize the risk is greater than the reward and will not provide financing without the government guaranteeing that the loan will be paid back.
In fact, nuclear power is so uneconomical that if the government were to purchase power on the open market and give it away for free it would be cheaper than subsidizing nuclear power plants.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/elliott-negin/the-tale-of-nuclear-disas_b_844635.html
Additionally, there is no safe, economical way to store the spent fuel. Fukushima has 26x as much nuclear fuel on site as Chernobyl simply because all of the fuel ever used there is still stored there in the spent fuel pools.
This is clearly not safe. One of the explosions blew portions of the spent fuel up to a mile away from the plant.
The U.S. has 23 nuclear plants that are just like Fukushima. They store all of the spent fuel on-site above the reactors and are ticking time bombs.
Further, decommissioning a nuclear power plant at the end of its useful life is hugely expensive. It’s a process that can last up to 50 years and cost tens of billions of dollars.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_decommissioning
Why would anyone be in favor of nuclear power? Many environmentalists are against nuclear power for obvious reasons (although some support them because they believe that they won’t contribute to global warming).
However, anyone who believes in free market principles should also be against nuclear power. Nuclear power plants would never be built in a truly free market with no federally-guaranteed loans.[/quote]
Spot on post.
to add, 1) no insurance company will insure nuke plants due to the huge and and uncalculatable cost of potential nuke failure and 2) no financing is available without US govt loan guarantees as a subsidy.
if truly the US followed free markets, nuke power would have been buried many years ago.April 17, 2011 at 7:45 PM #688555larrylujackParticipant[quote=StaunchLibertarian]Anyone who believes in free-market principles should be against nuclear power. Nuclear power plants would not be built without federally-guaranteed loans. Private investors realize the risk is greater than the reward and will not provide financing without the government guaranteeing that the loan will be paid back.
In fact, nuclear power is so uneconomical that if the government were to purchase power on the open market and give it away for free it would be cheaper than subsidizing nuclear power plants.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/elliott-negin/the-tale-of-nuclear-disas_b_844635.html
Additionally, there is no safe, economical way to store the spent fuel. Fukushima has 26x as much nuclear fuel on site as Chernobyl simply because all of the fuel ever used there is still stored there in the spent fuel pools.
This is clearly not safe. One of the explosions blew portions of the spent fuel up to a mile away from the plant.
The U.S. has 23 nuclear plants that are just like Fukushima. They store all of the spent fuel on-site above the reactors and are ticking time bombs.
Further, decommissioning a nuclear power plant at the end of its useful life is hugely expensive. It’s a process that can last up to 50 years and cost tens of billions of dollars.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_decommissioning
Why would anyone be in favor of nuclear power? Many environmentalists are against nuclear power for obvious reasons (although some support them because they believe that they won’t contribute to global warming).
However, anyone who believes in free market principles should also be against nuclear power. Nuclear power plants would never be built in a truly free market with no federally-guaranteed loans.[/quote]
Spot on post.
to add, 1) no insurance company will insure nuke plants due to the huge and and uncalculatable cost of potential nuke failure and 2) no financing is available without US govt loan guarantees as a subsidy.
if truly the US followed free markets, nuke power would have been buried many years ago.April 17, 2011 at 7:54 PM #687394CricketOnTheHearthParticipantMy main beef with nuke power has always been the waste. Stays toxic and nasty for thousands of years and where the heck are you gonna put it?
Is there any truth to the claim I heard that the French recycle >90% of their spent nuclear fuel, so they don’t generate much waste? Or is it just wishful propaganda? Seems to me if it were true, we’d have been doing the same thing… right?
April 17, 2011 at 7:54 PM #687451CricketOnTheHearthParticipantMy main beef with nuke power has always been the waste. Stays toxic and nasty for thousands of years and where the heck are you gonna put it?
Is there any truth to the claim I heard that the French recycle >90% of their spent nuclear fuel, so they don’t generate much waste? Or is it just wishful propaganda? Seems to me if it were true, we’d have been doing the same thing… right?
April 17, 2011 at 7:54 PM #688068CricketOnTheHearthParticipantMy main beef with nuke power has always been the waste. Stays toxic and nasty for thousands of years and where the heck are you gonna put it?
Is there any truth to the claim I heard that the French recycle >90% of their spent nuclear fuel, so they don’t generate much waste? Or is it just wishful propaganda? Seems to me if it were true, we’d have been doing the same thing… right?
April 17, 2011 at 7:54 PM #688210CricketOnTheHearthParticipantMy main beef with nuke power has always been the waste. Stays toxic and nasty for thousands of years and where the heck are you gonna put it?
Is there any truth to the claim I heard that the French recycle >90% of their spent nuclear fuel, so they don’t generate much waste? Or is it just wishful propaganda? Seems to me if it were true, we’d have been doing the same thing… right?
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