o/t “Countering Disinformation And Propaganda Act” Thoughts?

[zk]

[quote=CA renter]

ZK, the only thing you proved on that thread was that you disagreed with me, and that was based solely on your opinion, not on facts or logic.

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It wasn’t my opinion. It was your own words that proved you unambiguously wrong.

There’s something wrong with you:

When you’re looking at proof that you’re wrong, you’re like the automatons on Westworld looking at pictures of the world outside the park: “That doesn’t look like anything to me.”

This is why I refuse to spend time debating you any more.

[CA renter]

Some more information from those who actually know what they’re talking about:
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At their core, both groups formed in response to populist anger in the wake of the U.S. government’s decision in 2008 to bail out the nation’s largest banks. In an effort to stave off what policy makers at the time felt was the impending collapse of the global economy, Congress approved using hundreds of billions of taxpayer dollars to prop up banks deemed “too big to fail.”

The Tea Party organized in 2009 and gained momentum through nationwide rallies and widespread media coverage. By the fall of 2010 Tea Party-backed candidates were appearing on Congressional ballot boxes across the country, their platforms unified in their disgust for excessive government spending in general and taxpayer-backed bailouts in particular, not least those targeting big banks.

Incumbent candidates who voted for the bailouts — Democrat, Republican, it didn’t matter — were excoriated for their support.

http://www.foxbusiness.com/markets/2011/10/19/occupy-wall-street-tea-party-born-bank-bailouts.html

https://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/h/henryrolli619052.html?src=t_occupy

http://www.columbian.com/news/2011/oct/25/letter-tea-party-message-was-co-opted/

http://crooksandliars.com/heather/judith-miller-admits-tea-party-has-been-co

[CA renter]

[quote=zk][quote=CA renter]

ZK, the only thing you proved on that thread was that you disagreed with me, and that was based solely on your opinion, not on facts or logic.

[/quote]

It wasn’t my opinion. It was your own words that proved you unambiguously wrong.

There’s something wrong with you:

When you’re looking at proof that you’re wrong, you’re like the automatons on Westworld looking at pictures of the world outside the park: “That doesn’t look like anything to me.”

This is why I refuse to spend time debating you any more.[/quote]

Again, you proved nothing of the sort. You pulled manure out of your butt and presented it as “facts and logic,” but you cited no evidence, and presented no logical arguments to back up what you were saying.

As in this thread, you were speaking on a topic about which you were woefully uninformed.

[zk]

[quote=CA renter]

Again, you proved nothing of the sort. You pulled manure out of your butt and presented it as “facts and logic,” but you cited no evidence, and presented no logical arguments to back up what you were saying.
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Fact: You said people segregated boys and girls for fear of feminizing boys.

Fact: I said you imagine that.

Fact: You said you didn’t.

Fact: You did imagine it, right there on that thread. You claimed I wanted to segregate boys and girls because I feared feminizing boys.

Fact: I had said no such thing.

Fact: You had imagined it (it wasn’t there, yet you saw it).

Ergo: You were wrong. You do imagine people wanting to segregate boys and girls for fear of feminizing boys. You did it right there on that thread.

Those are all facts, but the part of your brain that recognizes when you’re wrong is malfunctioning, so somehow you don’t see that.

[zk]

Just like somehow you’re not wrong about Obama signing the “Countering Disinformation And Propaganda Act” into law.

[CA renter]

[quote=zk]Just like somehow you’re not wrong about Obama signing the “Countering Disinformation And Propaganda Act” into law.[/quote]

You’re saying that he didn’t sign it?????

It’s obvious who’s avoiding facts and logic…

[CA renter]

[quote=zk][quote=CA renter]

Again, you proved nothing of the sort. You pulled manure out of your butt and presented it as “facts and logic,” but you cited no evidence, and presented no logical arguments to back up what you were saying.
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Fact: You said people segregated boys and girls for fear of feminizing boys.

Fact: I said you imagine that.

Fact: You said you didn’t.

Fact: You did imagine it, right there on that thread. You claimed I wanted to segregate boys and girls because I feared feminizing boys.

Fact: I had said no such thing.

Fact: You had imagined it (it wasn’t there, yet you saw it).

Ergo: You were wrong. You do imagine people wanting to segregate boys and girls for fear of feminizing boys. You did it right there on that thread.

Those are all facts, but the part of your brain that recognizes when you’re wrong is malfunctioning, so somehow you don’t see that.[/quote]

All the evidence is there in that thread, zk. You can choose to remain ignorant; I can’t force facts and logic down your throat.

And I can assure you, with 100% confidence, that many people (the majority who do it?) most definitely segregate their sons playmates by gender because they don’t want their sons to be “feminized.” I’ve had multiple parents tell me this to my face.

But if you want to continue on that thread, go ahead and revive it. In this thread, we are talking about this most recent legislation.

[zk]

[quote=CA renter]

All the evidence is there in that thread, zk. You can choose to remain ignorant; I can’t force facts and logic down your throat.

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You look right at the facts, facts that unambiguously show that you’re wrong, and somehow then claim that I’m the ignorant one.

Stunning.

[Anonymous]

[quote=CA renter][quote=zk]Just like somehow you’re not wrong about Obama signing the “Countering Disinformation And Propaganda Act” into law.[/quote]

You’re saying that he didn’t sign it?????

It’s obvious who’s avoiding facts and logic…[/quote]

Once again:

https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/senate-bill/3274/actions

The most troubling news in this thread is the example of the deplorable qualifications of some public school teachers.

[CA renter]

[quote=harvey][quote=CA renter][quote=zk]Just like somehow you’re not wrong about Obama signing the “Countering Disinformation And Propaganda Act” into law.[/quote]

You’re saying that he didn’t sign it?????

It’s obvious who’s avoiding facts and logic…[/quote]

Once again:

https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/senate-bill/3274/actions

The most troubling news in this thread is the example of the deplorable qualifications of some public school teachers.[/quote]

Once again…

“President Signs Portman-Murphy Counter-Propaganda Bill into Law

Portman-Murphy Bill Promotes Coordinated Strategy to Defend America, Allies Against Propaganda and Disinformation from Russia, China & Others

WASHINGTON, D.C. – U.S. Senators Rob Portman (R-OH) and Chris Murphy (D-CT) today announced that their Countering Disinformation and Propaganda Act – legislation designed to help American allies counter foreign government propaganda from Russia, China, and other nations – has been signed into law as part of the FY 2017 National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) Conference Report.”

http://www.portman.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/press-releases?ID=F973E46B-AA8C-4F3E-91B4-8EC0FC7F2F3E

Yes, it’s pretty clear that your teachers greatly harmed your ability to read and use facts and logic in your “debates” (if one can call them debates, as you mostly just resort to ad hominem attacks). It is indeed deplorable.

For the record, it can take some time for the congress.gov website to be updated, especially around the holidays. Good thing Zero Hedge was on top of things, though.

[CA renter]

[quote=zk][quote=CA renter]

All the evidence is there in that thread, zk. You can choose to remain ignorant; I can’t force facts and logic down your throat.

[/quote]

You look right at the facts, facts that unambiguously show that you’re wrong, and somehow then claim that I’m the ignorant one.

Stunning.[/quote]

I’ve looked, and you never proved me wrong. You’ve simply proved that you have a different opinion — one that is not based on either experience or education regarding this particular topic. It’s all literally your opinion, and you’re trying to present your opinion as fact. It’s clearly not.

[Anonymous]

Tyler Durden and Rob Portman’s website say the president signed it.

The US Congress website says he did not.

And OMG HE SIGNED IT JUST BEFORE CHRISTMAS!!!

You choose what you source you want to believe. I’m certainly lot losing any sleep over the semantics politician’s press releases, your tinfoil-hat non-issue, or your arguments that the the lack of evidence is damning proof.

But please don’t stop – every time you post about “the PTB,” the Piggs get a good laugh.

[zk]

[quote=CA renter]

I’ve looked, and you never proved me wrong. You’ve simply proved that you have a different opinion — one that is not based on either experience or education regarding this particular topic. It’s all literally your opinion, and you’re trying to present your opinion as fact. It’s clearly not.[/quote]

This is kind of a dead horse, but at this point I’m really curious how your brain works. Which of these is not a fact, and how do they not prove that you were wrong?

Fact: You said people segregated boys and girls for fear of feminizing boys.
Fact: I said you imagine that.
Fact: You said you didn’t.
Fact: You did imagine it, right there on that thread. You claimed I wanted to segregate boys and girls because I feared feminizing boys.
Fact: I had said no such thing.
Fact: You had imagined it (it wasn’t there, yet you saw it).
Ergo: You were wrong. You do imagine people wanting to segregate boys and girls for fear of feminizing boys. You did it right there on that thread.

[CA renter]

[quote=harvey]Tyler Durden and Rob Portman’s website say the president signed it.

The US Congress website says he did not.

And OMG HE SIGNED IT JUST BEFORE CHRISTMAS!!!

You choose what you source you want to believe. I’m certainly lot losing any sleep over the semantics politician’s press releases, your tinfoil-hat non-issue, or your arguments that the the lack of evidence is damning proof.

But please don’t stop – every time you post about “the PTB,” the Piggs get a good laugh.[/quote]

Um…look at the site, then look at the name of the legislation, genius.

And what “lack of evidence” are you referring to? The fact that you rarely, if ever, provide any support for your statements?

[CA renter]

I’ll bold it for you since your reading comprehension skills are so poor.

My link is to the senator’s site — the senator who co-authored this piece of legislation.

[quote=CA renter][quote=harvey][quote=CA renter][quote=zk]Just like somehow you’re not wrong about Obama signing the “Countering Disinformation And Propaganda Act” into law.[/quote]

You’re saying that he didn’t sign it?????

It’s obvious who’s avoiding facts and logic…[/quote]

Once again:

https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/senate-bill/3274/actions

The most troubling news in this thread is the example of the deplorable qualifications of some public school teachers.[/quote]

Once again… [edited to add that bold is mine -CAR]

“President Signs Portman-Murphy Counter-Propaganda Bill into Law

Portman-Murphy Bill Promotes Coordinated Strategy to Defend America, Allies Against Propaganda and Disinformation from Russia, China & Others

WASHINGTON, D.C. – U.S. Senators Rob Portman (R-OH) and Chris Murphy (D-CT) today announced that their Countering Disinformation and Propaganda Act – legislation designed to help American allies counter foreign government propaganda from Russia, China, and other nations – has been signed into law as part of the FY 2017 National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) Conference Report.”

http://www.portman.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/press-releases?ID=F973E46B-AA8C-4F3E-91B4-8EC0FC7F2F3E

Yes, it’s pretty clear that your teachers greatly harmed your ability to read and use facts and logic in your “debates” (if one can call them debates, as you mostly just resort to ad hominem attacks). It is indeed deplorable.

For the record, it can take some time for the congress.gov website to be updated, especially around the holidays. Good thing Zero Hedge was on top of things, though.[/quote]

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