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  • October 6, 2009 at 4:51 PM #465684
    Arraya
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    Obama failed as soon as he got into office by continuing the Bush bailouts and wars. Failure was baked in the cake. The country is bankrupt and the choice is to either start another war or start bankruptcy proceedings.

    We failed years ago, this is just the four decade in the making failure coming to fruiting. Obama is Gorbachev residing over the collapse of an empire.

    The trajectory can not be stopped by anybody, regardless of policies.

    All he can do is pick up the pieces when done. We have a year or two for that.

    October 7, 2009 at 11:06 PM #465472
    equalizer
    Participant

    [quote=surveyor][quote=briansd1][quote=surveyor]
    Al Sharpton
    Jesse Jackson
    BILL CLINTON[/quote]

    These guys don’t have a daily show with million of listeners.
    [/quote]

    Let’s go to what you ORIGINALLY said:

    [quote=briansd1]ucodegen, I don’t see an equivalent to Rush on the left — someone who despite his own personal failings still commands a huge fanatical audience.[/quote]

    Jesse Jackson has a radio show. Check.

    Al Sharpton has a radio show. Check.

    Jesse Jackson has a huge fanatical audience. Check.

    Al Sharpton has a huge fanatical audience. Check.
    [/quote]
    some may discount the right, but they control 90% of talk in this country. Not a single liberal can be found in American radio/TV talk in top 10.

    So much for the Elite liberal media. Nobody watches network TV news, biased heavily to left but still fairly tame, they don’t want any more controversy.

    And the so-called liberal NYT. They reported (LIED) WMD propaganda in Iraq daily for weeks before Iraq War funding vote. Must have made liberals real happy.

    The right is the powerhouse now. There may be some liberal shows out there on public radio, etc but they obviously have no suitable audience for advertisers. Money talks and liberals walk!

    Top programs (audience size)
    The Rush Limbaugh Show – 15+ million.
    The Sean Hannity Show – 14+ million.
    Glenn Beck Program – 9+ million.
    The Savage Nation – 9+ million.
    The Dr. Laura Program – 9+ million
    The Laura Ingraham Show – 6.25 million
    The Mark Levin Show – 6.25 million

    October 7, 2009 at 11:06 PM #465661
    equalizer
    Participant

    [quote=surveyor][quote=briansd1][quote=surveyor]
    Al Sharpton
    Jesse Jackson
    BILL CLINTON[/quote]

    These guys don’t have a daily show with million of listeners.
    [/quote]

    Let’s go to what you ORIGINALLY said:

    [quote=briansd1]ucodegen, I don’t see an equivalent to Rush on the left — someone who despite his own personal failings still commands a huge fanatical audience.[/quote]

    Jesse Jackson has a radio show. Check.

    Al Sharpton has a radio show. Check.

    Jesse Jackson has a huge fanatical audience. Check.

    Al Sharpton has a huge fanatical audience. Check.
    [/quote]
    some may discount the right, but they control 90% of talk in this country. Not a single liberal can be found in American radio/TV talk in top 10.

    So much for the Elite liberal media. Nobody watches network TV news, biased heavily to left but still fairly tame, they don’t want any more controversy.

    And the so-called liberal NYT. They reported (LIED) WMD propaganda in Iraq daily for weeks before Iraq War funding vote. Must have made liberals real happy.

    The right is the powerhouse now. There may be some liberal shows out there on public radio, etc but they obviously have no suitable audience for advertisers. Money talks and liberals walk!

    Top programs (audience size)
    The Rush Limbaugh Show – 15+ million.
    The Sean Hannity Show – 14+ million.
    Glenn Beck Program – 9+ million.
    The Savage Nation – 9+ million.
    The Dr. Laura Program – 9+ million
    The Laura Ingraham Show – 6.25 million
    The Mark Levin Show – 6.25 million

    October 7, 2009 at 11:06 PM #466014
    equalizer
    Participant

    [quote=surveyor][quote=briansd1][quote=surveyor]
    Al Sharpton
    Jesse Jackson
    BILL CLINTON[/quote]

    These guys don’t have a daily show with million of listeners.
    [/quote]

    Let’s go to what you ORIGINALLY said:

    [quote=briansd1]ucodegen, I don’t see an equivalent to Rush on the left — someone who despite his own personal failings still commands a huge fanatical audience.[/quote]

    Jesse Jackson has a radio show. Check.

    Al Sharpton has a radio show. Check.

    Jesse Jackson has a huge fanatical audience. Check.

    Al Sharpton has a huge fanatical audience. Check.
    [/quote]
    some may discount the right, but they control 90% of talk in this country. Not a single liberal can be found in American radio/TV talk in top 10.

    So much for the Elite liberal media. Nobody watches network TV news, biased heavily to left but still fairly tame, they don’t want any more controversy.

    And the so-called liberal NYT. They reported (LIED) WMD propaganda in Iraq daily for weeks before Iraq War funding vote. Must have made liberals real happy.

    The right is the powerhouse now. There may be some liberal shows out there on public radio, etc but they obviously have no suitable audience for advertisers. Money talks and liberals walk!

    Top programs (audience size)
    The Rush Limbaugh Show – 15+ million.
    The Sean Hannity Show – 14+ million.
    Glenn Beck Program – 9+ million.
    The Savage Nation – 9+ million.
    The Dr. Laura Program – 9+ million
    The Laura Ingraham Show – 6.25 million
    The Mark Levin Show – 6.25 million

    October 7, 2009 at 11:06 PM #466087
    equalizer
    Participant

    [quote=surveyor][quote=briansd1][quote=surveyor]
    Al Sharpton
    Jesse Jackson
    BILL CLINTON[/quote]

    These guys don’t have a daily show with million of listeners.
    [/quote]

    Let’s go to what you ORIGINALLY said:

    [quote=briansd1]ucodegen, I don’t see an equivalent to Rush on the left — someone who despite his own personal failings still commands a huge fanatical audience.[/quote]

    Jesse Jackson has a radio show. Check.

    Al Sharpton has a radio show. Check.

    Jesse Jackson has a huge fanatical audience. Check.

    Al Sharpton has a huge fanatical audience. Check.
    [/quote]
    some may discount the right, but they control 90% of talk in this country. Not a single liberal can be found in American radio/TV talk in top 10.

    So much for the Elite liberal media. Nobody watches network TV news, biased heavily to left but still fairly tame, they don’t want any more controversy.

    And the so-called liberal NYT. They reported (LIED) WMD propaganda in Iraq daily for weeks before Iraq War funding vote. Must have made liberals real happy.

    The right is the powerhouse now. There may be some liberal shows out there on public radio, etc but they obviously have no suitable audience for advertisers. Money talks and liberals walk!

    Top programs (audience size)
    The Rush Limbaugh Show – 15+ million.
    The Sean Hannity Show – 14+ million.
    Glenn Beck Program – 9+ million.
    The Savage Nation – 9+ million.
    The Dr. Laura Program – 9+ million
    The Laura Ingraham Show – 6.25 million
    The Mark Levin Show – 6.25 million

    October 7, 2009 at 11:06 PM #466301
    equalizer
    Participant

    [quote=surveyor][quote=briansd1][quote=surveyor]
    Al Sharpton
    Jesse Jackson
    BILL CLINTON[/quote]

    These guys don’t have a daily show with million of listeners.
    [/quote]

    Let’s go to what you ORIGINALLY said:

    [quote=briansd1]ucodegen, I don’t see an equivalent to Rush on the left — someone who despite his own personal failings still commands a huge fanatical audience.[/quote]

    Jesse Jackson has a radio show. Check.

    Al Sharpton has a radio show. Check.

    Jesse Jackson has a huge fanatical audience. Check.

    Al Sharpton has a huge fanatical audience. Check.
    [/quote]
    some may discount the right, but they control 90% of talk in this country. Not a single liberal can be found in American radio/TV talk in top 10.

    So much for the Elite liberal media. Nobody watches network TV news, biased heavily to left but still fairly tame, they don’t want any more controversy.

    And the so-called liberal NYT. They reported (LIED) WMD propaganda in Iraq daily for weeks before Iraq War funding vote. Must have made liberals real happy.

    The right is the powerhouse now. There may be some liberal shows out there on public radio, etc but they obviously have no suitable audience for advertisers. Money talks and liberals walk!

    Top programs (audience size)
    The Rush Limbaugh Show – 15+ million.
    The Sean Hannity Show – 14+ million.
    Glenn Beck Program – 9+ million.
    The Savage Nation – 9+ million.
    The Dr. Laura Program – 9+ million
    The Laura Ingraham Show – 6.25 million
    The Mark Levin Show – 6.25 million

    October 8, 2009 at 7:01 AM #465527
    Allan from Fallbrook
    Participant

    Equalizer: David Brooks of the NYT wrote a good article discussing what he considers the true influence of Rush, Beck, etc on the American people.

    On balance, I agreed with most of the article. Unfortunately, I don’t think they’re quite as “out of the mainstream” as Brooks alleges, but I believe that’s largely due to Brooks’ thinly masked disdain for their shrillness and (perceived) vulgarity.

    Article is here: http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/02/opinion/02brooks.html?_r=2&em

    On a side note: I cannot believe Savage still has a show. Speaking of vulgar, that man is a disgrace.

    October 8, 2009 at 7:01 AM #465716
    Allan from Fallbrook
    Participant

    Equalizer: David Brooks of the NYT wrote a good article discussing what he considers the true influence of Rush, Beck, etc on the American people.

    On balance, I agreed with most of the article. Unfortunately, I don’t think they’re quite as “out of the mainstream” as Brooks alleges, but I believe that’s largely due to Brooks’ thinly masked disdain for their shrillness and (perceived) vulgarity.

    Article is here: http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/02/opinion/02brooks.html?_r=2&em

    On a side note: I cannot believe Savage still has a show. Speaking of vulgar, that man is a disgrace.

    October 8, 2009 at 7:01 AM #466070
    Allan from Fallbrook
    Participant

    Equalizer: David Brooks of the NYT wrote a good article discussing what he considers the true influence of Rush, Beck, etc on the American people.

    On balance, I agreed with most of the article. Unfortunately, I don’t think they’re quite as “out of the mainstream” as Brooks alleges, but I believe that’s largely due to Brooks’ thinly masked disdain for their shrillness and (perceived) vulgarity.

    Article is here: http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/02/opinion/02brooks.html?_r=2&em

    On a side note: I cannot believe Savage still has a show. Speaking of vulgar, that man is a disgrace.

    October 8, 2009 at 7:01 AM #466142
    Allan from Fallbrook
    Participant

    Equalizer: David Brooks of the NYT wrote a good article discussing what he considers the true influence of Rush, Beck, etc on the American people.

    On balance, I agreed with most of the article. Unfortunately, I don’t think they’re quite as “out of the mainstream” as Brooks alleges, but I believe that’s largely due to Brooks’ thinly masked disdain for their shrillness and (perceived) vulgarity.

    Article is here: http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/02/opinion/02brooks.html?_r=2&em

    On a side note: I cannot believe Savage still has a show. Speaking of vulgar, that man is a disgrace.

    October 8, 2009 at 7:01 AM #466355
    Allan from Fallbrook
    Participant

    Equalizer: David Brooks of the NYT wrote a good article discussing what he considers the true influence of Rush, Beck, etc on the American people.

    On balance, I agreed with most of the article. Unfortunately, I don’t think they’re quite as “out of the mainstream” as Brooks alleges, but I believe that’s largely due to Brooks’ thinly masked disdain for their shrillness and (perceived) vulgarity.

    Article is here: http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/02/opinion/02brooks.html?_r=2&em

    On a side note: I cannot believe Savage still has a show. Speaking of vulgar, that man is a disgrace.

    October 8, 2009 at 9:52 AM #465612
    briansd1
    Guest

    I also read the David Brooks piece.

    Brooks makes it sound like Republican politicians are “victims” of the talk jocks (as well as the Liberal media). Poor Republicans, they can’t win.

    BTW, I don’t think that that MSM is liberal. It’s mainstream, hence the name.

    October 8, 2009 at 9:52 AM #465802
    briansd1
    Guest

    I also read the David Brooks piece.

    Brooks makes it sound like Republican politicians are “victims” of the talk jocks (as well as the Liberal media). Poor Republicans, they can’t win.

    BTW, I don’t think that that MSM is liberal. It’s mainstream, hence the name.

    October 8, 2009 at 9:52 AM #466156
    briansd1
    Guest

    I also read the David Brooks piece.

    Brooks makes it sound like Republican politicians are “victims” of the talk jocks (as well as the Liberal media). Poor Republicans, they can’t win.

    BTW, I don’t think that that MSM is liberal. It’s mainstream, hence the name.

    October 8, 2009 at 9:52 AM #466231
    briansd1
    Guest

    I also read the David Brooks piece.

    Brooks makes it sound like Republican politicians are “victims” of the talk jocks (as well as the Liberal media). Poor Republicans, they can’t win.

    BTW, I don’t think that that MSM is liberal. It’s mainstream, hence the name.

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