OT: Californa SB 350

[FlyerInHi]

BG, developers can add a lot of housing along the 15 and 215. Yeah, I see sprawl.

Did you see Victorville? Costco, restaurant row, etc…
Did you see Corona? Dos Lagos shopping center, etc..

They are not all workerbees who commute to West LA to work.

I just hope that Google/Apple or whoever comes up with creative destruction to bring us autonomous cars and better means of transport. Many of the parking lots could be re-purposed. Developers would love that!

[bearishgurl]

[quote=FlyerInHi]BG, developers can add a lot of housing along the 15 and 215. Yeah, I see sprawl.

Did you see Victorville? Costco, restaurant row, etc…
Did you see Corona? Dos Lagos shopping center, etc..

They are not all workerbees who commute to West LA to work.

I just hope that Google/Apple or whoever comes up with creative destruction to bring us autonomous cars and better means of transport. Many of the parking lots could be re-purposed. Developers would love that![/quote]

FIH, if you’re claiming retirees (people who aren’t “worker-bees”) are moving to the high desert en masse, I would tell you that these are very likely NOT prior dwellers of CA coastal counties. They are likely previous inhabitants of AZ, NV or the inland counties of CA, where they weren’t able to recover a princely amount of equity from the sale of their long-owned home, necessitating finding a less expensive place to retire. Sorry, but longtime residents of CA coastal counties generally aren’t going to trade their current (likely paid-for) house to retire in the likes of Victorville, Hesperia or Palmdale, etc.

I did see a big shopping complex (outdoor mall?) off the I-15 service road in Victorville (right side headed south). Are you SURE this wasn’t built to serve passing tourists? I’ve seen factory outlet stores up there in a couple of towns which were built mainly for tourists passing through, evidenced by their massive billboard advertising on I-15.

Yes, I drove (northbound) through Corona on 7/29 and noticed that there is now a lot of newer commercial development in that corridor. That area isn’t considered “outlying.” It is within a well-established area of RIV County and so this newer development would be considered “infill.” Corona, a fairly large city, is only a hop and a skip away from the Orange County line.

[urbanrealtor]

[quote=paramount][quote=bearishgurl]

I’m not the only one opposed to any more growth. [/quote]

Many of your comments smack of elitism and a “screw you, I’ve got mine” mentality.

And now you want to attack hard working families already struggling and working hard to stay afloat and keep food on the table while raising a family.

All because you believe we should all follow your life philosophy of not living in “exurb hell”. And if not, we’ll take you to the cleaners…again and again.

Isn’t it also because of a level of disdain for the guys who load up their F150’s and Silverado’s and get on the road at 5AM and WORK all day. No glorious pensions or medical benefits or golden parachute. But then these guys aren’t whiney govt workers either.
Just a life of hard work and struggle. It’s true; for the most part these guys didn’t go to a UC. Or even a lowly CSU.

Do they even deserve to live here? I mean if you can’t live near ‘desirable’ coastal california, do you even have a life worth living? How could you?

And now elitists and environmental radicals want to punish these families by making it even harder to keep gas in their tanks.

I think that’s one of the reasons I’d much rather live in Temecula: the trendy/hipster elitist attitude so prevelant in San Diego. At least up here in the valley of the dirt people we keep it real.[/quote]

Dude.
I have missed your whiny, self-righteous rants a lot.
Thank you for this.

Complaining about hipster prejudice while talking about how “mi barrio” is real and genuine.

Good stuff.

[paramount]

[quote=urbanrealtor]

Complaining about hipster prejudice while talking about how “mi barrio” is real and genuine.

Good stuff.[/quote]

Are you referring to Mi Barrio Famous pizza? It is good stuff; no it’s great!

http://mibarriofamouspizza.com/

[paramount]

SB350 is dead for now, but the radicals are even more fired up now.

[FlyerInHi]

[quote=bearishgurl]

FIH, if you’re claiming retirees (people who aren’t “worker-bees”) are moving to the high desert en masse, I would tell you that these are very likely NOT prior dwellers of CA coastal counties. They are likely previous inhabitants of AZ, NV or the inland counties of CA, where they weren’t able to recover a princely amount of equity from the sale of their long-owned home, necessitating finding a less expensive place to retire. Sorry, but longtime residents of CA coastal counties generally aren’t going to trade their current (likely paid-for) house to retire in the likes of Victorville, Hesperia or Palmdale, etc.

I did see a big shopping complex (outdoor mall?) off the I-15 service road in Victorville (right side headed south). Are you SURE this wasn’t built to serve passing tourists? I’ve seen factory outlet stores up there in a couple of towns which were built mainly for tourists passing through, evidenced by their massive billboard advertising on I-15.

Yes, I drove (northbound) through Corona on 7/29 and noticed that there is now a lot of newer commercial development in that corridor. That area isn’t considered “outlying.” It is within a well-established area of RIV County and so this newer development would be considered “infill.” Corona, a fairly large city, is only a hop and a skip away from the Orange County line.[/quote]

I’m just saying that people will continue to move to california and there will be growth. NIMBYism may restrict upzoning and growth in established areas, but that will only lead to higher prices and more sprawl as shoveler pointed out.

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