OT – Bilingual Education

[CA renter]

My mom (an immigrant from Europe) had to learn English in school, and ended up being proficient in four languages: German, Russian, Spanish, and English. She loved to travel, and we lived and visited overseas when I was a kid.

There is no doubt that knowing different languages can essentially “open up the world,” enabling someone to work or live in a variety of places, and converse with many people from different backgrounds — a benefit both professionally and personally. Our kids have been taking foreign language classes since they were little, and will continue to do so for as long as we can make them. 😉

Bilingual education is complex, though, and there are many flavors that seek to do different things. For kids who do well in English and who excel academically, learning foreign languages should be required, IMHO. However, for kids who come here from different countries and who might be handicapped in both their native languages and in English, I think we are doing them a disservice if we don’t offer a rigorous English program that strives to enable them to compete with their “native” English-speaking peers.

More anecdote: I used to teach in a school with a 90%+ Hispanic population, most of whom came from (very poor) Spanish-speaking households. There were only one or two classes out of ~12 at my grade level that had “English-only” instruction, and I was one of them.

What I heard from the parents was interesting. A statistically significant number of my students were the “accidental” kids who came later in life after the parents had already raised a batch of older children. The parents told me that the first groups of children received “bilingual” education, because they trusted what the schools told them: that bilingual education was better for their kids. The parents were frustrated and disappointed with the results because, “We came here and worked hard so our kids could be successful, not so they could work in the fields and factories as cheap labor.”

It seems that the kind of biligual education their kids were getting ended up being a detriment (at least that’s how the parents saw it), and when the “accidental” kids came along, the parents vowed to do things differently, because they wanted them to go to college and get white-collar jobs.

Again, bilingual education is complex, and what I’m referring to is the education of kids in their native language with very little English instruction. The problem is that these kids are ONLY getting “native language” exposure because they hear it in their homes and neighborhoods, and then get it at school. By the time they transition into more English-intensive instruction, they are already very much behind their English-speaking peers, and many never catch up. This is especially true when kids coming into kindergarten receive the most intensive “native language” instruction, and where I think it’s most important for them to learn English. After all, the subject matter is much easier to comprehend at that level, and ALL the students are learning basic words and concepts (everyone is learning “this is a circle, this is a square” at that level). It’s only for older immigrants that I would suggest native language instruction for part of the day because it’s not as easy to translate more complex vocabulary and concepts in their minds.

IMHO, we have it backward. The younger kids should be immersed in English (if it’s not their native language), and the older kids should have a stronger bilingual transition program, so they can keep up with subjects like science and math in their own languages.

Kids who are already fairly proficient in English, and who get English instruction/immersion at home can certainly benefit from learning other languages, IMHO.

BTW, all of this is from over a decade ago, so the schools might have changed the way they do things since then.

[outtamojo]

I agree w/ everything you said CAR-with this to add: teaching non-english speakers in their native language in the early grades hurts them to no end. I grew up in non english speaking househld and went to grade school w/ a lot of others like me. When those others did not do well in class, guess where they were sent, straight to the bilingual class. Did their school work improve? No!
What happened to a lot of those was they got to speak their native tongue all the time and as we got older(high school) they were the kids who never assimilated, the ones who never had any friends that were not of the same race as them. If I had my way, any kinder kid who did not know english would be prescribed 5 hours of Sponge Bob everyday until they became fluent.

[outtamojo]

I agree w/ everything you said CAR-with this to add: teaching non-english speakers in their native language in the early grades hurts them to no end. I grew up in non english speaking househld and went to grade school w/ a lot of others like me. When those others did not do well in class, guess where they were sent, straight to the bilingual class. Did their school work improve? No!
What happened to a lot of those was they got to speak their native tongue all the time and as we got older(high school) they were the kids who never assimilated, the ones who never had any friends that were not of the same race as them. If I had my way, any kinder kid who did not know english would be prescribed 5 hours of Sponge Bob everyday until they became fluent.

[outtamojo]

I agree w/ everything you said CAR-with this to add: teaching non-english speakers in their native language in the early grades hurts them to no end. I grew up in non english speaking househld and went to grade school w/ a lot of others like me. When those others did not do well in class, guess where they were sent, straight to the bilingual class. Did their school work improve? No!
What happened to a lot of those was they got to speak their native tongue all the time and as we got older(high school) they were the kids who never assimilated, the ones who never had any friends that were not of the same race as them. If I had my way, any kinder kid who did not know english would be prescribed 5 hours of Sponge Bob everyday until they became fluent.

[outtamojo]

I agree w/ everything you said CAR-with this to add: teaching non-english speakers in their native language in the early grades hurts them to no end. I grew up in non english speaking househld and went to grade school w/ a lot of others like me. When those others did not do well in class, guess where they were sent, straight to the bilingual class. Did their school work improve? No!
What happened to a lot of those was they got to speak their native tongue all the time and as we got older(high school) they were the kids who never assimilated, the ones who never had any friends that were not of the same race as them. If I had my way, any kinder kid who did not know english would be prescribed 5 hours of Sponge Bob everyday until they became fluent.

[outtamojo]

I agree w/ everything you said CAR-with this to add: teaching non-english speakers in their native language in the early grades hurts them to no end. I grew up in non english speaking househld and went to grade school w/ a lot of others like me. When those others did not do well in class, guess where they were sent, straight to the bilingual class. Did their school work improve? No!
What happened to a lot of those was they got to speak their native tongue all the time and as we got older(high school) they were the kids who never assimilated, the ones who never had any friends that were not of the same race as them. If I had my way, any kinder kid who did not know english would be prescribed 5 hours of Sponge Bob everyday until they became fluent.

[CA renter]

outtamojo,

Interesting post. You’re right about the kids who underperform and how they’re essentially pushed into bilingual programs. More often than not, the problem with their academic progress is more due to the parents’ lack of education and/or unwillingness to prioritize education. Unfortunately, what these kids need is more intensive tutoring/smaller groups, not bilingual education. These are precisely the kids who are disadvantaged by the bilingual programs, IMHO.

[CA renter]

outtamojo,

Interesting post. You’re right about the kids who underperform and how they’re essentially pushed into bilingual programs. More often than not, the problem with their academic progress is more due to the parents’ lack of education and/or unwillingness to prioritize education. Unfortunately, what these kids need is more intensive tutoring/smaller groups, not bilingual education. These are precisely the kids who are disadvantaged by the bilingual programs, IMHO.

[CA renter]

outtamojo,

Interesting post. You’re right about the kids who underperform and how they’re essentially pushed into bilingual programs. More often than not, the problem with their academic progress is more due to the parents’ lack of education and/or unwillingness to prioritize education. Unfortunately, what these kids need is more intensive tutoring/smaller groups, not bilingual education. These are precisely the kids who are disadvantaged by the bilingual programs, IMHO.

[CA renter]

outtamojo,

Interesting post. You’re right about the kids who underperform and how they’re essentially pushed into bilingual programs. More often than not, the problem with their academic progress is more due to the parents’ lack of education and/or unwillingness to prioritize education. Unfortunately, what these kids need is more intensive tutoring/smaller groups, not bilingual education. These are precisely the kids who are disadvantaged by the bilingual programs, IMHO.

[CA renter]

outtamojo,

Interesting post. You’re right about the kids who underperform and how they’re essentially pushed into bilingual programs. More often than not, the problem with their academic progress is more due to the parents’ lack of education and/or unwillingness to prioritize education. Unfortunately, what these kids need is more intensive tutoring/smaller groups, not bilingual education. These are precisely the kids who are disadvantaged by the bilingual programs, IMHO.

[Anonymous]

These laws have nothing against the kids learning other languages; they prevent kids growing up speaking only Spanish. Just what outtamojo said.

[Anonymous]

These laws have nothing against the kids learning other languages; they prevent kids growing up speaking only Spanish. Just what outtamojo said.

[Anonymous]

These laws have nothing against the kids learning other languages; they prevent kids growing up speaking only Spanish. Just what outtamojo said.

[Anonymous]

These laws have nothing against the kids learning other languages; they prevent kids growing up speaking only Spanish. Just what outtamojo said.

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