OT: Ayn Rand’s “Atlas Shrugged”

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[quote=Arraya]

This trend will increase across the planet. We are living in the first time in history where more people live in cities than in countries and the exodus to the cities is accelerating. As this continues, birth rates will continue to decline and ultimately , the population will level off and decline. Most estimates are at around 9 billion.[/quote]

Does that mean that we are actually living is a sustainable world or perhaps that with population decreases, we can achieve sustainability?

I believe, in the future, as the populations in developed countries shrink, there will be competition to attract immigrants to drive economic growth.

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[quote=davelj]

Very good recent article by Joe Stiglitz on income inequality, in which he’s basically addressing what I refer to as the “Revolution Factor” (above).[/quote]

I also agree.

I however think that revolution is at least 2 generations away. Not a clear and imminent danger, IMHO (I think of a generation as 20 years).

Right now, in America, the rural working class of voters are ideologically (but not economically) aligned with the top 1%.

As njtosd and Arraya mentioned, those “rural conservatives” voters are the very people who are less educated and have more children.

For the sake of stability and continued economic growth, we need to make policy adjustments to reduce income inequity.

Unlike Arraya, I don’t wish for economic collapse because revolution would bring on terrible poverty through wealth destruction.

Also, unlike CA renter, I don’t believe in continued government largess to its own employees while we ignore the bottom rungs of society.

[briansd1]

[quote=davelj]

Very good recent article by Joe Stiglitz on income inequality, in which he’s basically addressing what I refer to as the “Revolution Factor” (above).[/quote]

I also agree.

I however think that revolution is at least 2 generations away. Not a clear and imminent danger, IMHO (I think of a generation as 20 years).

Right now, in America, the rural working class of voters are ideologically (but not economically) aligned with the top 1%.

As njtosd and Arraya mentioned, those “rural conservatives” voters are the very people who are less educated and have more children.

For the sake of stability and continued economic growth, we need to make policy adjustments to reduce income inequity.

Unlike Arraya, I don’t wish for economic collapse because revolution would bring on terrible poverty through wealth destruction.

Also, unlike CA renter, I don’t believe in continued government largess to its own employees while we ignore the bottom rungs of society.

[briansd1]

[quote=davelj]

Very good recent article by Joe Stiglitz on income inequality, in which he’s basically addressing what I refer to as the “Revolution Factor” (above).[/quote]

I also agree.

I however think that revolution is at least 2 generations away. Not a clear and imminent danger, IMHO (I think of a generation as 20 years).

Right now, in America, the rural working class of voters are ideologically (but not economically) aligned with the top 1%.

As njtosd and Arraya mentioned, those “rural conservatives” voters are the very people who are less educated and have more children.

For the sake of stability and continued economic growth, we need to make policy adjustments to reduce income inequity.

Unlike Arraya, I don’t wish for economic collapse because revolution would bring on terrible poverty through wealth destruction.

Also, unlike CA renter, I don’t believe in continued government largess to its own employees while we ignore the bottom rungs of society.

[briansd1]

[quote=davelj]

Very good recent article by Joe Stiglitz on income inequality, in which he’s basically addressing what I refer to as the “Revolution Factor” (above).[/quote]

I also agree.

I however think that revolution is at least 2 generations away. Not a clear and imminent danger, IMHO (I think of a generation as 20 years).

Right now, in America, the rural working class of voters are ideologically (but not economically) aligned with the top 1%.

As njtosd and Arraya mentioned, those “rural conservatives” voters are the very people who are less educated and have more children.

For the sake of stability and continued economic growth, we need to make policy adjustments to reduce income inequity.

Unlike Arraya, I don’t wish for economic collapse because revolution would bring on terrible poverty through wealth destruction.

Also, unlike CA renter, I don’t believe in continued government largess to its own employees while we ignore the bottom rungs of society.

[briansd1]

[quote=davelj]

Very good recent article by Joe Stiglitz on income inequality, in which he’s basically addressing what I refer to as the “Revolution Factor” (above).[/quote]

I also agree.

I however think that revolution is at least 2 generations away. Not a clear and imminent danger, IMHO (I think of a generation as 20 years).

Right now, in America, the rural working class of voters are ideologically (but not economically) aligned with the top 1%.

As njtosd and Arraya mentioned, those “rural conservatives” voters are the very people who are less educated and have more children.

For the sake of stability and continued economic growth, we need to make policy adjustments to reduce income inequity.

Unlike Arraya, I don’t wish for economic collapse because revolution would bring on terrible poverty through wealth destruction.

Also, unlike CA renter, I don’t believe in continued government largess to its own employees while we ignore the bottom rungs of society.

[mlarsen23]

There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old’s life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs.

[mlarsen23]

There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old’s life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs.

[mlarsen23]

There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old’s life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs.

[mlarsen23]

There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old’s life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs.

[mlarsen23]

There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old’s life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs.

[davelj]

[quote=mlarsen23]There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old’s life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs.[/quote]

Great point… although you forgot the quotation marks… John Rogers deserves attribution, yes?

[davelj]

[quote=mlarsen23]There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old’s life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs.[/quote]

Great point… although you forgot the quotation marks… John Rogers deserves attribution, yes?

[davelj]

[quote=mlarsen23]There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old’s life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs.[/quote]

Great point… although you forgot the quotation marks… John Rogers deserves attribution, yes?

[davelj]

[quote=mlarsen23]There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old’s life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs.[/quote]

Great point… although you forgot the quotation marks… John Rogers deserves attribution, yes?

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