OT: Any Temecula piggs stop by the Promenade expansion?

[carlsbadworker]

I wanted to check out PF Chang the other day and was told the wait is two hours. So at least PFCB is making money.

[HarryBosch]

[quote=carlsbadworker]I wanted to check out PF Chang the other day and was told the wait is two hours. So at least PFCB is making money.
[/quote]

Yeah, Temecula/Murrieta is really growing.

PF Changs seats how many people? 100? 135?

In a city population of what? 100,000 ?

So that makes it 1/1000th of the city population spending their money at PF Changs. BFD.

Throw in Murrtown’s population of another 100,000 and that makes it 1 in 2000 of the local pop are eating at PFC. Again, BFD.

I also live in Redhawk. I’m renting this year and last year. I’ve got several neighbors who also rent these 3000+ sqft homes because they lost their own. Houses nearby still have the realtor’s locks on them for 4-5 months with no For Sale signs going up. House prices still dropping in the Fairways gated area. Another neighbor just had her husband walk out on her and her kids. Another family friend declared BK last year and said they have more than a couple friends in town who have done the same. Probably 30% of the houses on my street are renters. Another neighbor of mine is fearful of losing their job and said we were smart to have sold our house early 2008. I’ve got other neighbors who aren’t paying their prop taxes for the last 2-3 times – I checked, they’re behind.

I think there’s still a lot of hidden pain here in terms of higher Unemployment and decreasing home values in Temecula/Murrtown area.

I’m going to wait this out. Been seeing more low lifes lately. The deterioration is not over.

[HarryBosch]

[quote=carlsbadworker]I wanted to check out PF Chang the other day and was told the wait is two hours. So at least PFCB is making money.
[/quote]

Yeah, Temecula/Murrieta is really growing.

PF Changs seats how many people? 100? 135?

In a city population of what? 100,000 ?

So that makes it 1/1000th of the city population spending their money at PF Changs. BFD.

Throw in Murrtown’s population of another 100,000 and that makes it 1 in 2000 of the local pop are eating at PFC. Again, BFD.

I also live in Redhawk. I’m renting this year and last year. I’ve got several neighbors who also rent these 3000+ sqft homes because they lost their own. Houses nearby still have the realtor’s locks on them for 4-5 months with no For Sale signs going up. House prices still dropping in the Fairways gated area. Another neighbor just had her husband walk out on her and her kids. Another family friend declared BK last year and said they have more than a couple friends in town who have done the same. Probably 30% of the houses on my street are renters. Another neighbor of mine is fearful of losing their job and said we were smart to have sold our house early 2008. I’ve got other neighbors who aren’t paying their prop taxes for the last 2-3 times – I checked, they’re behind.

I think there’s still a lot of hidden pain here in terms of higher Unemployment and decreasing home values in Temecula/Murrtown area.

I’m going to wait this out. Been seeing more low lifes lately. The deterioration is not over.

[HarryBosch]

[quote=carlsbadworker]I wanted to check out PF Chang the other day and was told the wait is two hours. So at least PFCB is making money.
[/quote]

Yeah, Temecula/Murrieta is really growing.

PF Changs seats how many people? 100? 135?

In a city population of what? 100,000 ?

So that makes it 1/1000th of the city population spending their money at PF Changs. BFD.

Throw in Murrtown’s population of another 100,000 and that makes it 1 in 2000 of the local pop are eating at PFC. Again, BFD.

I also live in Redhawk. I’m renting this year and last year. I’ve got several neighbors who also rent these 3000+ sqft homes because they lost their own. Houses nearby still have the realtor’s locks on them for 4-5 months with no For Sale signs going up. House prices still dropping in the Fairways gated area. Another neighbor just had her husband walk out on her and her kids. Another family friend declared BK last year and said they have more than a couple friends in town who have done the same. Probably 30% of the houses on my street are renters. Another neighbor of mine is fearful of losing their job and said we were smart to have sold our house early 2008. I’ve got other neighbors who aren’t paying their prop taxes for the last 2-3 times – I checked, they’re behind.

I think there’s still a lot of hidden pain here in terms of higher Unemployment and decreasing home values in Temecula/Murrtown area.

I’m going to wait this out. Been seeing more low lifes lately. The deterioration is not over.

[HarryBosch]

[quote=carlsbadworker]I wanted to check out PF Chang the other day and was told the wait is two hours. So at least PFCB is making money.
[/quote]

Yeah, Temecula/Murrieta is really growing.

PF Changs seats how many people? 100? 135?

In a city population of what? 100,000 ?

So that makes it 1/1000th of the city population spending their money at PF Changs. BFD.

Throw in Murrtown’s population of another 100,000 and that makes it 1 in 2000 of the local pop are eating at PFC. Again, BFD.

I also live in Redhawk. I’m renting this year and last year. I’ve got several neighbors who also rent these 3000+ sqft homes because they lost their own. Houses nearby still have the realtor’s locks on them for 4-5 months with no For Sale signs going up. House prices still dropping in the Fairways gated area. Another neighbor just had her husband walk out on her and her kids. Another family friend declared BK last year and said they have more than a couple friends in town who have done the same. Probably 30% of the houses on my street are renters. Another neighbor of mine is fearful of losing their job and said we were smart to have sold our house early 2008. I’ve got other neighbors who aren’t paying their prop taxes for the last 2-3 times – I checked, they’re behind.

I think there’s still a lot of hidden pain here in terms of higher Unemployment and decreasing home values in Temecula/Murrtown area.

I’m going to wait this out. Been seeing more low lifes lately. The deterioration is not over.

[HarryBosch]

[quote=carlsbadworker]I wanted to check out PF Chang the other day and was told the wait is two hours. So at least PFCB is making money.
[/quote]

Yeah, Temecula/Murrieta is really growing.

PF Changs seats how many people? 100? 135?

In a city population of what? 100,000 ?

So that makes it 1/1000th of the city population spending their money at PF Changs. BFD.

Throw in Murrtown’s population of another 100,000 and that makes it 1 in 2000 of the local pop are eating at PFC. Again, BFD.

I also live in Redhawk. I’m renting this year and last year. I’ve got several neighbors who also rent these 3000+ sqft homes because they lost their own. Houses nearby still have the realtor’s locks on them for 4-5 months with no For Sale signs going up. House prices still dropping in the Fairways gated area. Another neighbor just had her husband walk out on her and her kids. Another family friend declared BK last year and said they have more than a couple friends in town who have done the same. Probably 30% of the houses on my street are renters. Another neighbor of mine is fearful of losing their job and said we were smart to have sold our house early 2008. I’ve got other neighbors who aren’t paying their prop taxes for the last 2-3 times – I checked, they’re behind.

I think there’s still a lot of hidden pain here in terms of higher Unemployment and decreasing home values in Temecula/Murrtown area.

I’m going to wait this out. Been seeing more low lifes lately. The deterioration is not over.

[temeculaguy]

Well I rolled out to yardhouse on Saturday, the place was rocking but it wasn’t the cougar den I was hoping it would be, more of a old 20’s, young 30’s crowd. Changs’s mellowed out by 11 but Yard still had a fight for seats going, I’d guess 200 patrons. I’ll try it midweek for happy hour before deciding, something less of an amatuer night than a Saturday. My wingman pulled some digits but her friend was not my style so we ended up empty handed. The Public House in Old Town is still my favorite, much more mellow and more in my wheelhouse, age wise, but the stemless wineglasses are still a bother.

harry and scarlett, why so glum, the aftermath is a good time. Sure there will be sad stories but the rebirth is a natural part of the cycle and I’m seeing less lowlifes by the day. In fact my neighbors are in the process of stripping their house right now, both sides are leaving this month, thank goodness. We post boom reseters are having a ball and they are my kind of people, happy to greet my new neighbors (currently 4 of 8 houses are half off buyers like myself, soon to be 6). I have yet to see a lowlife move into the hood and each new occupant is an upgrade in demographics. Don’t fear it, welcome it.

The economy locally isn’t a product of people not paying their mortgage, it is because every new arrival or former renter is paying a small percentage of their income for housing, like it should be. Buying and renting costs the same up here, it’s actually quite liberating financially speaking.

Oh and on the SD vs tem/mur economy, the valley’s total population is in excess of 400k, it’s disposable income is higher than any comparable city in S.D. (including carlsbad)

http://www.cityoftemecula.org/NR/rdonlyres/6089BD40-13DB-409D-9A35-FC89D90479F8/0/husingreport2007.pdf

page 8 and 12 is where I found that info, from the 2008 report, well into our little housing crisis.

an excerpt on retail sales

“It was in this position despite having a population (101,057) that is much smaller than the other cities on this list. In relationship to comparable San Diego County cities, Temecula’s performance was strong. Escondido ($2.7 billion) had slightly stronger sales with a much larger population (143,389). Despite having roughly the same population as Temecula, the other San Diego County city’s had weaker total sales: Carlsbad ($2.4 billion), El Cajon ($2.1 billion), San Marcos
($1.4 billion), Vista ($1.2 billion)”

This can all be traced to fundamentals, only .79 jobs are needed for the median house, compared to well over 1 job for other areas.

I could go on and on with anectodotal info but the reality is that the new Temeculans are a lot like me, they have jobs, they have money and they have house payments that are a fraction of everyone else’s, just as it should be, Booooyaaa! Welcome to the aftermath, people paying much less than 3 times their annual earnings for a house, it’s so good to be me, I think I’m going to go kiss myself in the mirror and perhaps act inappropriately, narcissism is fun.

[temeculaguy]

Well I rolled out to yardhouse on Saturday, the place was rocking but it wasn’t the cougar den I was hoping it would be, more of a old 20’s, young 30’s crowd. Changs’s mellowed out by 11 but Yard still had a fight for seats going, I’d guess 200 patrons. I’ll try it midweek for happy hour before deciding, something less of an amatuer night than a Saturday. My wingman pulled some digits but her friend was not my style so we ended up empty handed. The Public House in Old Town is still my favorite, much more mellow and more in my wheelhouse, age wise, but the stemless wineglasses are still a bother.

harry and scarlett, why so glum, the aftermath is a good time. Sure there will be sad stories but the rebirth is a natural part of the cycle and I’m seeing less lowlifes by the day. In fact my neighbors are in the process of stripping their house right now, both sides are leaving this month, thank goodness. We post boom reseters are having a ball and they are my kind of people, happy to greet my new neighbors (currently 4 of 8 houses are half off buyers like myself, soon to be 6). I have yet to see a lowlife move into the hood and each new occupant is an upgrade in demographics. Don’t fear it, welcome it.

The economy locally isn’t a product of people not paying their mortgage, it is because every new arrival or former renter is paying a small percentage of their income for housing, like it should be. Buying and renting costs the same up here, it’s actually quite liberating financially speaking.

Oh and on the SD vs tem/mur economy, the valley’s total population is in excess of 400k, it’s disposable income is higher than any comparable city in S.D. (including carlsbad)

http://www.cityoftemecula.org/NR/rdonlyres/6089BD40-13DB-409D-9A35-FC89D90479F8/0/husingreport2007.pdf

page 8 and 12 is where I found that info, from the 2008 report, well into our little housing crisis.

an excerpt on retail sales

“It was in this position despite having a population (101,057) that is much smaller than the other cities on this list. In relationship to comparable San Diego County cities, Temecula’s performance was strong. Escondido ($2.7 billion) had slightly stronger sales with a much larger population (143,389). Despite having roughly the same population as Temecula, the other San Diego County city’s had weaker total sales: Carlsbad ($2.4 billion), El Cajon ($2.1 billion), San Marcos
($1.4 billion), Vista ($1.2 billion)”

This can all be traced to fundamentals, only .79 jobs are needed for the median house, compared to well over 1 job for other areas.

I could go on and on with anectodotal info but the reality is that the new Temeculans are a lot like me, they have jobs, they have money and they have house payments that are a fraction of everyone else’s, just as it should be, Booooyaaa! Welcome to the aftermath, people paying much less than 3 times their annual earnings for a house, it’s so good to be me, I think I’m going to go kiss myself in the mirror and perhaps act inappropriately, narcissism is fun.

[temeculaguy]

Well I rolled out to yardhouse on Saturday, the place was rocking but it wasn’t the cougar den I was hoping it would be, more of a old 20’s, young 30’s crowd. Changs’s mellowed out by 11 but Yard still had a fight for seats going, I’d guess 200 patrons. I’ll try it midweek for happy hour before deciding, something less of an amatuer night than a Saturday. My wingman pulled some digits but her friend was not my style so we ended up empty handed. The Public House in Old Town is still my favorite, much more mellow and more in my wheelhouse, age wise, but the stemless wineglasses are still a bother.

harry and scarlett, why so glum, the aftermath is a good time. Sure there will be sad stories but the rebirth is a natural part of the cycle and I’m seeing less lowlifes by the day. In fact my neighbors are in the process of stripping their house right now, both sides are leaving this month, thank goodness. We post boom reseters are having a ball and they are my kind of people, happy to greet my new neighbors (currently 4 of 8 houses are half off buyers like myself, soon to be 6). I have yet to see a lowlife move into the hood and each new occupant is an upgrade in demographics. Don’t fear it, welcome it.

The economy locally isn’t a product of people not paying their mortgage, it is because every new arrival or former renter is paying a small percentage of their income for housing, like it should be. Buying and renting costs the same up here, it’s actually quite liberating financially speaking.

Oh and on the SD vs tem/mur economy, the valley’s total population is in excess of 400k, it’s disposable income is higher than any comparable city in S.D. (including carlsbad)

http://www.cityoftemecula.org/NR/rdonlyres/6089BD40-13DB-409D-9A35-FC89D90479F8/0/husingreport2007.pdf

page 8 and 12 is where I found that info, from the 2008 report, well into our little housing crisis.

an excerpt on retail sales

“It was in this position despite having a population (101,057) that is much smaller than the other cities on this list. In relationship to comparable San Diego County cities, Temecula’s performance was strong. Escondido ($2.7 billion) had slightly stronger sales with a much larger population (143,389). Despite having roughly the same population as Temecula, the other San Diego County city’s had weaker total sales: Carlsbad ($2.4 billion), El Cajon ($2.1 billion), San Marcos
($1.4 billion), Vista ($1.2 billion)”

This can all be traced to fundamentals, only .79 jobs are needed for the median house, compared to well over 1 job for other areas.

I could go on and on with anectodotal info but the reality is that the new Temeculans are a lot like me, they have jobs, they have money and they have house payments that are a fraction of everyone else’s, just as it should be, Booooyaaa! Welcome to the aftermath, people paying much less than 3 times their annual earnings for a house, it’s so good to be me, I think I’m going to go kiss myself in the mirror and perhaps act inappropriately, narcissism is fun.

[temeculaguy]

Well I rolled out to yardhouse on Saturday, the place was rocking but it wasn’t the cougar den I was hoping it would be, more of a old 20’s, young 30’s crowd. Changs’s mellowed out by 11 but Yard still had a fight for seats going, I’d guess 200 patrons. I’ll try it midweek for happy hour before deciding, something less of an amatuer night than a Saturday. My wingman pulled some digits but her friend was not my style so we ended up empty handed. The Public House in Old Town is still my favorite, much more mellow and more in my wheelhouse, age wise, but the stemless wineglasses are still a bother.

harry and scarlett, why so glum, the aftermath is a good time. Sure there will be sad stories but the rebirth is a natural part of the cycle and I’m seeing less lowlifes by the day. In fact my neighbors are in the process of stripping their house right now, both sides are leaving this month, thank goodness. We post boom reseters are having a ball and they are my kind of people, happy to greet my new neighbors (currently 4 of 8 houses are half off buyers like myself, soon to be 6). I have yet to see a lowlife move into the hood and each new occupant is an upgrade in demographics. Don’t fear it, welcome it.

The economy locally isn’t a product of people not paying their mortgage, it is because every new arrival or former renter is paying a small percentage of their income for housing, like it should be. Buying and renting costs the same up here, it’s actually quite liberating financially speaking.

Oh and on the SD vs tem/mur economy, the valley’s total population is in excess of 400k, it’s disposable income is higher than any comparable city in S.D. (including carlsbad)

http://www.cityoftemecula.org/NR/rdonlyres/6089BD40-13DB-409D-9A35-FC89D90479F8/0/husingreport2007.pdf

page 8 and 12 is where I found that info, from the 2008 report, well into our little housing crisis.

an excerpt on retail sales

“It was in this position despite having a population (101,057) that is much smaller than the other cities on this list. In relationship to comparable San Diego County cities, Temecula’s performance was strong. Escondido ($2.7 billion) had slightly stronger sales with a much larger population (143,389). Despite having roughly the same population as Temecula, the other San Diego County city’s had weaker total sales: Carlsbad ($2.4 billion), El Cajon ($2.1 billion), San Marcos
($1.4 billion), Vista ($1.2 billion)”

This can all be traced to fundamentals, only .79 jobs are needed for the median house, compared to well over 1 job for other areas.

I could go on and on with anectodotal info but the reality is that the new Temeculans are a lot like me, they have jobs, they have money and they have house payments that are a fraction of everyone else’s, just as it should be, Booooyaaa! Welcome to the aftermath, people paying much less than 3 times their annual earnings for a house, it’s so good to be me, I think I’m going to go kiss myself in the mirror and perhaps act inappropriately, narcissism is fun.

[temeculaguy]

Well I rolled out to yardhouse on Saturday, the place was rocking but it wasn’t the cougar den I was hoping it would be, more of a old 20’s, young 30’s crowd. Changs’s mellowed out by 11 but Yard still had a fight for seats going, I’d guess 200 patrons. I’ll try it midweek for happy hour before deciding, something less of an amatuer night than a Saturday. My wingman pulled some digits but her friend was not my style so we ended up empty handed. The Public House in Old Town is still my favorite, much more mellow and more in my wheelhouse, age wise, but the stemless wineglasses are still a bother.

harry and scarlett, why so glum, the aftermath is a good time. Sure there will be sad stories but the rebirth is a natural part of the cycle and I’m seeing less lowlifes by the day. In fact my neighbors are in the process of stripping their house right now, both sides are leaving this month, thank goodness. We post boom reseters are having a ball and they are my kind of people, happy to greet my new neighbors (currently 4 of 8 houses are half off buyers like myself, soon to be 6). I have yet to see a lowlife move into the hood and each new occupant is an upgrade in demographics. Don’t fear it, welcome it.

The economy locally isn’t a product of people not paying their mortgage, it is because every new arrival or former renter is paying a small percentage of their income for housing, like it should be. Buying and renting costs the same up here, it’s actually quite liberating financially speaking.

Oh and on the SD vs tem/mur economy, the valley’s total population is in excess of 400k, it’s disposable income is higher than any comparable city in S.D. (including carlsbad)

http://www.cityoftemecula.org/NR/rdonlyres/6089BD40-13DB-409D-9A35-FC89D90479F8/0/husingreport2007.pdf

page 8 and 12 is where I found that info, from the 2008 report, well into our little housing crisis.

an excerpt on retail sales

“It was in this position despite having a population (101,057) that is much smaller than the other cities on this list. In relationship to comparable San Diego County cities, Temecula’s performance was strong. Escondido ($2.7 billion) had slightly stronger sales with a much larger population (143,389). Despite having roughly the same population as Temecula, the other San Diego County city’s had weaker total sales: Carlsbad ($2.4 billion), El Cajon ($2.1 billion), San Marcos
($1.4 billion), Vista ($1.2 billion)”

This can all be traced to fundamentals, only .79 jobs are needed for the median house, compared to well over 1 job for other areas.

I could go on and on with anectodotal info but the reality is that the new Temeculans are a lot like me, they have jobs, they have money and they have house payments that are a fraction of everyone else’s, just as it should be, Booooyaaa! Welcome to the aftermath, people paying much less than 3 times their annual earnings for a house, it’s so good to be me, I think I’m going to go kiss myself in the mirror and perhaps act inappropriately, narcissism is fun.

[sdrealtor]

He’s back! Inappropriate behavior and all…….

[sdrealtor]

He’s back! Inappropriate behavior and all…….

[sdrealtor]

He’s back! Inappropriate behavior and all…….

[sdrealtor]

He’s back! Inappropriate behavior and all…….

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