OT: In 2014, cops took more property from Americans than burglars did.

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*If you are suspected of a crime, police can confiscate your money or property if they believe it is related to your supposed criminal activity—often without convicting or even formally charging you.

*In most states, police departments are entitled to keep some or all of the seized property, giving them an obvious incentive to continue the practice.

*You do not need to be found guilty of any crime to have the police steal your assets

*Only your property needs to be found guilty (yes, you read that right)

This viral video illustrates actual cases of Civil Forfeiture:

http://gawker.com/cops-took-more-property-from-americans-than-burglars-di-1744205551

[spdrun]

Yep. corrupt pigs.

Hope we don’t regress into a new post 9/11 paroxysm of cophugging out of fear of terrorism.

[FlyerInHi]

Don’t carry large amounts of cash, especially when traveling. The cops will take it if they see it.

[spdrun]

Nah, everyone should start carrying cash. The pigs can’t rob everyone — and if the system gets clogged with lawsuits, maybe the pigs will learn to fuck off.

[FlyerInHi]

If you use all cash, then you might be surveilled. plus you lose credit card points for free stuff.

You know, the reason there are fewer robberies in richer areas is because people don’t carry cash anymore. And richer people are likely to have security cameras.

But I get why you feel cash transactions are more desirable. But it would take a total change of thinking for people do that.

I carry cash to pay at gas stations (that give cash discounts) and restaurants, because I don’t want mom and pop stores to pay transaction fees. Plus sometimes I buy stuff from private sellers who want cash only.

But personal property confiscation by cop is very routine. They take your stuff and ask questions later. A friend of a friend was arrested at a bar in Florida recently (he was drunk and chucked a billiard ball at another customer) Cops took his wallet and his phone. He had an Apple watch that the cops didn’t take so he was able to alert his friends from the back the of patrol car. Alcohol makes you do stupid shit.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/sf/investigative/2014/09/06/stop-and-seize/

[paramount]

[quote=FlyerInHi]If you use all cash, then you might be surveilled. plus you lose credit card points for free stuff.

You know, the reason there are fewer robberies in richer areas is because people don’t carry cash anymore. And richer people are likely to have security cameras.

But I get why you feel cash transactions are more desirable. But it would take a total change of thinking for people do that.

I carry cash to pay at gas stations (that give cash discounts) and restaurants, because I don’t want mom and pop stores to pay transaction fees. Plus sometimes I buy stuff from private sellers who want cash only.

But personal property confiscation by cop is very routine. They take your stuff and ask questions later. A friend of a friend was arrested at a bar in Florida recently (he was drunk and chucked a billiard ball at another customer) Cops took his wallet and his phone. He had an Apple watch that the cops didn’t take so he was able to alert his friends from the back the of patrol car. Alcohol makes you do stupid shit.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/sf/investigative/2014/09/06/stop-and-seize/%5B/quote%5D

That was a very good article and points out in many many cases this is just the govt/police literally stealing/highway robbery. I call it tyranny.

It speaks to the importance of knowing and using your rights. To many have a Mayberry mind model of the police.

As far as taking personal items from a drunk in a bar, that’s not civil forfeiture.

[scaredyclassic]

1st season of true detective has a seizure fat cop who gets nice comeuppance.

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