OT: 2009 PISA results published

[UCGal]

I found a cool interactive chart of the PISA scores by country

http://online.wsj.com/public/resources/documents/st_PISA1206_20101207.html

I think I’m going to move my family to either Canada or Finland.

China, Hong Kong, Singapore and Korea score better – but I prefer western comforts.

[all]

There is a discrepancy between PISA results in math and International Mathematical Olympiad results.

China, Korea and Japan are scoring high on both. Western countries other than USA are doing much better with PISA than IMO. And USA and Russia are doing much better @ IMO.

For success at IMO all you need is a small pool of strong performers – countries like Romania, Bulgaria and Hungary used to rank high.

3-4 of US team members (each team has 6 students) are with Asian names and 15-20 years ago there was 0-1.

[all]

There is a discrepancy between PISA results in math and International Mathematical Olympiad results.

China, Korea and Japan are scoring high on both. Western countries other than USA are doing much better with PISA than IMO. And USA and Russia are doing much better @ IMO.

For success at IMO all you need is a small pool of strong performers – countries like Romania, Bulgaria and Hungary used to rank high.

3-4 of US team members (each team has 6 students) are with Asian names and 15-20 years ago there was 0-1.

[all]

There is a discrepancy between PISA results in math and International Mathematical Olympiad results.

China, Korea and Japan are scoring high on both. Western countries other than USA are doing much better with PISA than IMO. And USA and Russia are doing much better @ IMO.

For success at IMO all you need is a small pool of strong performers – countries like Romania, Bulgaria and Hungary used to rank high.

3-4 of US team members (each team has 6 students) are with Asian names and 15-20 years ago there was 0-1.

[all]

There is a discrepancy between PISA results in math and International Mathematical Olympiad results.

China, Korea and Japan are scoring high on both. Western countries other than USA are doing much better with PISA than IMO. And USA and Russia are doing much better @ IMO.

For success at IMO all you need is a small pool of strong performers – countries like Romania, Bulgaria and Hungary used to rank high.

3-4 of US team members (each team has 6 students) are with Asian names and 15-20 years ago there was 0-1.

[all]

There is a discrepancy between PISA results in math and International Mathematical Olympiad results.

China, Korea and Japan are scoring high on both. Western countries other than USA are doing much better with PISA than IMO. And USA and Russia are doing much better @ IMO.

For success at IMO all you need is a small pool of strong performers – countries like Romania, Bulgaria and Hungary used to rank high.

3-4 of US team members (each team has 6 students) are with Asian names and 15-20 years ago there was 0-1.

[Eugene]

[quote=UCGal]I found a cool interactive chart of the PISA scores by country

http://online.wsj.com/public/resources/documents/st_PISA1206_20101207.html

I think I’m going to move my family to either Canada or Finland.

China, Hong Kong, Singapore and Korea score better – but I prefer western comforts.[/quote]

One of the main reasons why countries from the top 10 are in the top 10 is that you can’t just easily pack your things and move there, not without government permission, which may be hard to get. (Or you can, but people tend not to, as with Finland). “South Korea is ethnically one of the most homogeneous societies in the world with more than 99 per cent of inhabitants having Korean ethnicity” (Wikipedia).

If PISA science scores correlate well with NAEP science scores from this file http://nces.ed.gov/programs/coe/2007/pdf/13_2007.pdf, it should be much easier for you to move your family to Montana, North Dakota, New Hampshire, or Vermont, the four highest scoring states in the country, they should score almost as well as Canada and better than South Korea. Interestingly, all four lie on the border with Canada.

[Eugene]

[quote=UCGal]I found a cool interactive chart of the PISA scores by country

http://online.wsj.com/public/resources/documents/st_PISA1206_20101207.html

I think I’m going to move my family to either Canada or Finland.

China, Hong Kong, Singapore and Korea score better – but I prefer western comforts.[/quote]

One of the main reasons why countries from the top 10 are in the top 10 is that you can’t just easily pack your things and move there, not without government permission, which may be hard to get. (Or you can, but people tend not to, as with Finland). “South Korea is ethnically one of the most homogeneous societies in the world with more than 99 per cent of inhabitants having Korean ethnicity” (Wikipedia).

If PISA science scores correlate well with NAEP science scores from this file http://nces.ed.gov/programs/coe/2007/pdf/13_2007.pdf, it should be much easier for you to move your family to Montana, North Dakota, New Hampshire, or Vermont, the four highest scoring states in the country, they should score almost as well as Canada and better than South Korea. Interestingly, all four lie on the border with Canada.

[Eugene]

[quote=UCGal]I found a cool interactive chart of the PISA scores by country

http://online.wsj.com/public/resources/documents/st_PISA1206_20101207.html

I think I’m going to move my family to either Canada or Finland.

China, Hong Kong, Singapore and Korea score better – but I prefer western comforts.[/quote]

One of the main reasons why countries from the top 10 are in the top 10 is that you can’t just easily pack your things and move there, not without government permission, which may be hard to get. (Or you can, but people tend not to, as with Finland). “South Korea is ethnically one of the most homogeneous societies in the world with more than 99 per cent of inhabitants having Korean ethnicity” (Wikipedia).

If PISA science scores correlate well with NAEP science scores from this file http://nces.ed.gov/programs/coe/2007/pdf/13_2007.pdf, it should be much easier for you to move your family to Montana, North Dakota, New Hampshire, or Vermont, the four highest scoring states in the country, they should score almost as well as Canada and better than South Korea. Interestingly, all four lie on the border with Canada.

[Eugene]

[quote=UCGal]I found a cool interactive chart of the PISA scores by country

http://online.wsj.com/public/resources/documents/st_PISA1206_20101207.html

I think I’m going to move my family to either Canada or Finland.

China, Hong Kong, Singapore and Korea score better – but I prefer western comforts.[/quote]

One of the main reasons why countries from the top 10 are in the top 10 is that you can’t just easily pack your things and move there, not without government permission, which may be hard to get. (Or you can, but people tend not to, as with Finland). “South Korea is ethnically one of the most homogeneous societies in the world with more than 99 per cent of inhabitants having Korean ethnicity” (Wikipedia).

If PISA science scores correlate well with NAEP science scores from this file http://nces.ed.gov/programs/coe/2007/pdf/13_2007.pdf, it should be much easier for you to move your family to Montana, North Dakota, New Hampshire, or Vermont, the four highest scoring states in the country, they should score almost as well as Canada and better than South Korea. Interestingly, all four lie on the border with Canada.

[Eugene]

[quote=UCGal]I found a cool interactive chart of the PISA scores by country

http://online.wsj.com/public/resources/documents/st_PISA1206_20101207.html

I think I’m going to move my family to either Canada or Finland.

China, Hong Kong, Singapore and Korea score better – but I prefer western comforts.[/quote]

One of the main reasons why countries from the top 10 are in the top 10 is that you can’t just easily pack your things and move there, not without government permission, which may be hard to get. (Or you can, but people tend not to, as with Finland). “South Korea is ethnically one of the most homogeneous societies in the world with more than 99 per cent of inhabitants having Korean ethnicity” (Wikipedia).

If PISA science scores correlate well with NAEP science scores from this file http://nces.ed.gov/programs/coe/2007/pdf/13_2007.pdf, it should be much easier for you to move your family to Montana, North Dakota, New Hampshire, or Vermont, the four highest scoring states in the country, they should score almost as well as Canada and better than South Korea. Interestingly, all four lie on the border with Canada.

[ucodegen]

[quote=AN]How about comparing the Chinese in China vs the Chinese in America :-). You should check out the test scores of schools here in America for each racial group. You’d be surprise. For example, Asian in Mira Mesa High score 860 on their API test score while White in Torrey Pines High score 852 on their API test score.[/quote]
And here is another..
Asians in Whitney High are scoring 991. link
Whites in La Canada score at 898, asians at 938, hispanics and latino at 840 link
A lot has to do with the parents and how involved they are with the education of the children. It also doesn’t hurt that several of the parents work at JPL… (drives the focus towards education a bit).

Comparative list link

[ucodegen]

[quote=AN]How about comparing the Chinese in China vs the Chinese in America :-). You should check out the test scores of schools here in America for each racial group. You’d be surprise. For example, Asian in Mira Mesa High score 860 on their API test score while White in Torrey Pines High score 852 on their API test score.[/quote]
And here is another..
Asians in Whitney High are scoring 991. link
Whites in La Canada score at 898, asians at 938, hispanics and latino at 840 link
A lot has to do with the parents and how involved they are with the education of the children. It also doesn’t hurt that several of the parents work at JPL… (drives the focus towards education a bit).

Comparative list link

[ucodegen]

[quote=AN]How about comparing the Chinese in China vs the Chinese in America :-). You should check out the test scores of schools here in America for each racial group. You’d be surprise. For example, Asian in Mira Mesa High score 860 on their API test score while White in Torrey Pines High score 852 on their API test score.[/quote]
And here is another..
Asians in Whitney High are scoring 991. link
Whites in La Canada score at 898, asians at 938, hispanics and latino at 840 link
A lot has to do with the parents and how involved they are with the education of the children. It also doesn’t hurt that several of the parents work at JPL… (drives the focus towards education a bit).

Comparative list link

[ucodegen]

[quote=AN]How about comparing the Chinese in China vs the Chinese in America :-). You should check out the test scores of schools here in America for each racial group. You’d be surprise. For example, Asian in Mira Mesa High score 860 on their API test score while White in Torrey Pines High score 852 on their API test score.[/quote]
And here is another..
Asians in Whitney High are scoring 991. link
Whites in La Canada score at 898, asians at 938, hispanics and latino at 840 link
A lot has to do with the parents and how involved they are with the education of the children. It also doesn’t hurt that several of the parents work at JPL… (drives the focus towards education a bit).

Comparative list link

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