Off Topic: “Moon-walker claims alien contact cover-up”

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DWCAP–Nice wrapup. Those in my generation (BB) are probably all familiar with the Twilight Zone episode where the aliens came down and got a bunch of people to go back to their planet with them. And it turns out…they had a cookbook for “serving mankind”! Good thing about those particular aliens, tho, was they were about 9 feet tall, hideously ugly, and obvious as hell. If they had the smarts to get here, why didn’t they try to blend in better? Still one of my favorite campy episodes. And it cracks my 20-year-old up.

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The universe is 13-20 billion years old depending on who you ask.

Earth has been here 5 billion.

That gives us 8-15 billion years of missing time.

Within 100 to 200 years mainstream science will know how to get to the stars so consider a race 1000 years ahead of us, or 1 million years ahead. It would be probably impossible for them to miss us since we probably stand out like a sore thumb.

Here, this the most comphrehensive presentation that I have found on it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7vyVe-6YdUk

John

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As I pointed out above, I don’t consider it an impossibility, I simply consider it very unlikely that an alien race has visited us, was discovered by the US Government, which has subsequently covered it up for decades.

The technological gap – as I noted before, and you alluded to – implied by relatively common long distance interstellar travel is simply so enormous (in terms of relative advancement, not temporally – a race 1000 years in advance of us from our current era of development is FAR more advanced than for example we are in comparison to our medieval counterparts of a thousand years ago) that chance discovery simply would be so unlikely as to be practically impossible. And a planned contact with just one government is almost equally unlikely, as I don’t see any possible reason for an alien civilization to reveal itself to a human government far in advance of when they would plan to reveal themselves to the entire human civilization.

And it would be their choice – any race that far in advance of us would treat us as superstitious primitives (and rightly so). Why would they consult with one of our primitive governments, and hide themselves from all other human beings, any more than we would sneak into a aboriginal village in Papua New Guinea, and ask the local elders advice about whether we should hide from the other natives?

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[quote=jficquette]SDEngineer:

The universe is 13-20 billion years old depending on who you ask.

Earth has been here 5 billion.

That gives us 8-15 billion years of missing time.

Within 100 to 200 years mainstream science will know how to get to the stars so consider a race 1000 years ahead of us, or 1 million years ahead. It would be probably impossible for them to miss us since we probably stand out like a sore thumb.

Here, this the most comphrehensive presentation that I have found on it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7vyVe-6YdUk

John

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As I pointed out above, I don’t consider it an impossibility, I simply consider it very unlikely that an alien race has visited us, was discovered by the US Government, which has subsequently covered it up for decades.

The technological gap – as I noted before, and you alluded to – implied by relatively common long distance interstellar travel is simply so enormous (in terms of relative advancement, not temporally – a race 1000 years in advance of us from our current era of development is FAR more advanced than for example we are in comparison to our medieval counterparts of a thousand years ago) that chance discovery simply would be so unlikely as to be practically impossible. And a planned contact with just one government is almost equally unlikely, as I don’t see any possible reason for an alien civilization to reveal itself to a human government far in advance of when they would plan to reveal themselves to the entire human civilization.

And it would be their choice – any race that far in advance of us would treat us as superstitious primitives (and rightly so). Why would they consult with one of our primitive governments, and hide themselves from all other human beings, any more than we would sneak into a aboriginal village in Papua New Guinea, and ask the local elders advice about whether we should hide from the other natives?

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[quote=jficquette]SDEngineer:

The universe is 13-20 billion years old depending on who you ask.

Earth has been here 5 billion.

That gives us 8-15 billion years of missing time.

Within 100 to 200 years mainstream science will know how to get to the stars so consider a race 1000 years ahead of us, or 1 million years ahead. It would be probably impossible for them to miss us since we probably stand out like a sore thumb.

Here, this the most comphrehensive presentation that I have found on it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7vyVe-6YdUk

John

[/quote]

As I pointed out above, I don’t consider it an impossibility, I simply consider it very unlikely that an alien race has visited us, was discovered by the US Government, which has subsequently covered it up for decades.

The technological gap – as I noted before, and you alluded to – implied by relatively common long distance interstellar travel is simply so enormous (in terms of relative advancement, not temporally – a race 1000 years in advance of us from our current era of development is FAR more advanced than for example we are in comparison to our medieval counterparts of a thousand years ago) that chance discovery simply would be so unlikely as to be practically impossible. And a planned contact with just one government is almost equally unlikely, as I don’t see any possible reason for an alien civilization to reveal itself to a human government far in advance of when they would plan to reveal themselves to the entire human civilization.

And it would be their choice – any race that far in advance of us would treat us as superstitious primitives (and rightly so). Why would they consult with one of our primitive governments, and hide themselves from all other human beings, any more than we would sneak into a aboriginal village in Papua New Guinea, and ask the local elders advice about whether we should hide from the other natives?

[SDEngineer]

[quote=jficquette]SDEngineer:

The universe is 13-20 billion years old depending on who you ask.

Earth has been here 5 billion.

That gives us 8-15 billion years of missing time.

Within 100 to 200 years mainstream science will know how to get to the stars so consider a race 1000 years ahead of us, or 1 million years ahead. It would be probably impossible for them to miss us since we probably stand out like a sore thumb.

Here, this the most comphrehensive presentation that I have found on it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7vyVe-6YdUk

John

[/quote]

As I pointed out above, I don’t consider it an impossibility, I simply consider it very unlikely that an alien race has visited us, was discovered by the US Government, which has subsequently covered it up for decades.

The technological gap – as I noted before, and you alluded to – implied by relatively common long distance interstellar travel is simply so enormous (in terms of relative advancement, not temporally – a race 1000 years in advance of us from our current era of development is FAR more advanced than for example we are in comparison to our medieval counterparts of a thousand years ago) that chance discovery simply would be so unlikely as to be practically impossible. And a planned contact with just one government is almost equally unlikely, as I don’t see any possible reason for an alien civilization to reveal itself to a human government far in advance of when they would plan to reveal themselves to the entire human civilization.

And it would be their choice – any race that far in advance of us would treat us as superstitious primitives (and rightly so). Why would they consult with one of our primitive governments, and hide themselves from all other human beings, any more than we would sneak into a aboriginal village in Papua New Guinea, and ask the local elders advice about whether we should hide from the other natives?

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[quote=jficquette]SDEngineer:

The universe is 13-20 billion years old depending on who you ask.

Earth has been here 5 billion.

That gives us 8-15 billion years of missing time.

Within 100 to 200 years mainstream science will know how to get to the stars so consider a race 1000 years ahead of us, or 1 million years ahead. It would be probably impossible for them to miss us since we probably stand out like a sore thumb.

Here, this the most comphrehensive presentation that I have found on it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7vyVe-6YdUk

John

[/quote]

As I pointed out above, I don’t consider it an impossibility, I simply consider it very unlikely that an alien race has visited us, was discovered by the US Government, which has subsequently covered it up for decades.

The technological gap – as I noted before, and you alluded to – implied by relatively common long distance interstellar travel is simply so enormous (in terms of relative advancement, not temporally – a race 1000 years in advance of us from our current era of development is FAR more advanced than for example we are in comparison to our medieval counterparts of a thousand years ago) that chance discovery simply would be so unlikely as to be practically impossible. And a planned contact with just one government is almost equally unlikely, as I don’t see any possible reason for an alien civilization to reveal itself to a human government far in advance of when they would plan to reveal themselves to the entire human civilization.

And it would be their choice – any race that far in advance of us would treat us as superstitious primitives (and rightly so). Why would they consult with one of our primitive governments, and hide themselves from all other human beings, any more than we would sneak into a aboriginal village in Papua New Guinea, and ask the local elders advice about whether we should hide from the other natives?

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If a guy like Dr. Mitchell believes in it maybe you should not dismiss it out of hand.

John[/quote]

If a LOT of scientists with reputations as being strong scientific method types who apply rigorous skepticism to their work and others’ believed in it, then I’d probably buy in that perhaps there was something to it.

One guy believing in it who has a degree, a background as being an astronaut over 30 years ago, and a reputation among scientists as being more than a bit of a crank doesn’t have the same impact.

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[quote=jficquette]

If a guy like Dr. Mitchell believes in it maybe you should not dismiss it out of hand.

John[/quote]

If a LOT of scientists with reputations as being strong scientific method types who apply rigorous skepticism to their work and others’ believed in it, then I’d probably buy in that perhaps there was something to it.

One guy believing in it who has a degree, a background as being an astronaut over 30 years ago, and a reputation among scientists as being more than a bit of a crank doesn’t have the same impact.

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[quote=jficquette]

If a guy like Dr. Mitchell believes in it maybe you should not dismiss it out of hand.

John[/quote]

If a LOT of scientists with reputations as being strong scientific method types who apply rigorous skepticism to their work and others’ believed in it, then I’d probably buy in that perhaps there was something to it.

One guy believing in it who has a degree, a background as being an astronaut over 30 years ago, and a reputation among scientists as being more than a bit of a crank doesn’t have the same impact.

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[quote=jficquette]

If a guy like Dr. Mitchell believes in it maybe you should not dismiss it out of hand.

John[/quote]

If a LOT of scientists with reputations as being strong scientific method types who apply rigorous skepticism to their work and others’ believed in it, then I’d probably buy in that perhaps there was something to it.

One guy believing in it who has a degree, a background as being an astronaut over 30 years ago, and a reputation among scientists as being more than a bit of a crank doesn’t have the same impact.

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[quote=jficquette]

If a guy like Dr. Mitchell believes in it maybe you should not dismiss it out of hand.

John[/quote]

If a LOT of scientists with reputations as being strong scientific method types who apply rigorous skepticism to their work and others’ believed in it, then I’d probably buy in that perhaps there was something to it.

One guy believing in it who has a degree, a background as being an astronaut over 30 years ago, and a reputation among scientists as being more than a bit of a crank doesn’t have the same impact.

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[quote=SDEngineer][quote=jficquette]

If a guy like Dr. Mitchell believes in it maybe you should not dismiss it out of hand.

John[/quote]

If a LOT of scientists with reputations as being strong scientific method types who apply rigorous skepticism to their work and others’ believed in it, then I’d probably buy in that perhaps there was something to it.

One guy believing in it who has a degree, a background as being an astronaut over 30 years ago, and a reputation among scientists as being more than a bit of a crank doesn’t have the same impact.[/quote]

Search on Remote Viewing and see what you find.

Scientists have about the biggest ego’s of any profession. People like to think that they are open minded, adventurous and are constantly stretching the envelope etc. Far from it. They are mostly concerning with keeping their job and not rocking the boat.

John

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[quote=SDEngineer][quote=jficquette]

If a guy like Dr. Mitchell believes in it maybe you should not dismiss it out of hand.

John[/quote]

If a LOT of scientists with reputations as being strong scientific method types who apply rigorous skepticism to their work and others’ believed in it, then I’d probably buy in that perhaps there was something to it.

One guy believing in it who has a degree, a background as being an astronaut over 30 years ago, and a reputation among scientists as being more than a bit of a crank doesn’t have the same impact.[/quote]

Search on Remote Viewing and see what you find.

Scientists have about the biggest ego’s of any profession. People like to think that they are open minded, adventurous and are constantly stretching the envelope etc. Far from it. They are mostly concerning with keeping their job and not rocking the boat.

John

[jficquette]

[quote=SDEngineer][quote=jficquette]

If a guy like Dr. Mitchell believes in it maybe you should not dismiss it out of hand.

John[/quote]

If a LOT of scientists with reputations as being strong scientific method types who apply rigorous skepticism to their work and others’ believed in it, then I’d probably buy in that perhaps there was something to it.

One guy believing in it who has a degree, a background as being an astronaut over 30 years ago, and a reputation among scientists as being more than a bit of a crank doesn’t have the same impact.[/quote]

Search on Remote Viewing and see what you find.

Scientists have about the biggest ego’s of any profession. People like to think that they are open minded, adventurous and are constantly stretching the envelope etc. Far from it. They are mostly concerning with keeping their job and not rocking the boat.

John

[jficquette]

[quote=SDEngineer][quote=jficquette]

If a guy like Dr. Mitchell believes in it maybe you should not dismiss it out of hand.

John[/quote]

If a LOT of scientists with reputations as being strong scientific method types who apply rigorous skepticism to their work and others’ believed in it, then I’d probably buy in that perhaps there was something to it.

One guy believing in it who has a degree, a background as being an astronaut over 30 years ago, and a reputation among scientists as being more than a bit of a crank doesn’t have the same impact.[/quote]

Search on Remote Viewing and see what you find.

Scientists have about the biggest ego’s of any profession. People like to think that they are open minded, adventurous and are constantly stretching the envelope etc. Far from it. They are mostly concerning with keeping their job and not rocking the boat.

John

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