Obama gets peace prize for not being Bush!

[Allan from Fallbrook]

Dupe.

[urbanrealtor]

[quote=afx114]Whether or not you agree with the policy, I don’t understand why people are shocked that Obama wants to ramp up Afghanistan. He campaigned on it, did he not? And the majority of Americans voted for him based on that campaign, did they not? Damned if he does, damned if he doesn’t, I guess.[/quote]

Well put.
I am in support of the war in Afghanistan.
One can draw a line directly from that failed state to lots and lots of dead Americans.
There is a very compelling case that withdrawal could reconstitute that particular incubator.
However, there is also a compelling case to be made regarding expense and resource allocation.
We don’t need a functioning republican democracy to keep disruptive pressure on the important resistance groups. But again, see how well that worked last time. My point being that it is pretty easy to drop the ball using the strategy of surgical disruption.

But still, when do you decide too many resources have been allocated?

I don’t know what formula is adequate to evaluate that.

[urbanrealtor]

[quote=afx114]Whether or not you agree with the policy, I don’t understand why people are shocked that Obama wants to ramp up Afghanistan. He campaigned on it, did he not? And the majority of Americans voted for him based on that campaign, did they not? Damned if he does, damned if he doesn’t, I guess.[/quote]

Well put.
I am in support of the war in Afghanistan.
One can draw a line directly from that failed state to lots and lots of dead Americans.
There is a very compelling case that withdrawal could reconstitute that particular incubator.
However, there is also a compelling case to be made regarding expense and resource allocation.
We don’t need a functioning republican democracy to keep disruptive pressure on the important resistance groups. But again, see how well that worked last time. My point being that it is pretty easy to drop the ball using the strategy of surgical disruption.

But still, when do you decide too many resources have been allocated?

I don’t know what formula is adequate to evaluate that.

[urbanrealtor]

[quote=afx114]Whether or not you agree with the policy, I don’t understand why people are shocked that Obama wants to ramp up Afghanistan. He campaigned on it, did he not? And the majority of Americans voted for him based on that campaign, did they not? Damned if he does, damned if he doesn’t, I guess.[/quote]

Well put.
I am in support of the war in Afghanistan.
One can draw a line directly from that failed state to lots and lots of dead Americans.
There is a very compelling case that withdrawal could reconstitute that particular incubator.
However, there is also a compelling case to be made regarding expense and resource allocation.
We don’t need a functioning republican democracy to keep disruptive pressure on the important resistance groups. But again, see how well that worked last time. My point being that it is pretty easy to drop the ball using the strategy of surgical disruption.

But still, when do you decide too many resources have been allocated?

I don’t know what formula is adequate to evaluate that.

[urbanrealtor]

[quote=afx114]Whether or not you agree with the policy, I don’t understand why people are shocked that Obama wants to ramp up Afghanistan. He campaigned on it, did he not? And the majority of Americans voted for him based on that campaign, did they not? Damned if he does, damned if he doesn’t, I guess.[/quote]

Well put.
I am in support of the war in Afghanistan.
One can draw a line directly from that failed state to lots and lots of dead Americans.
There is a very compelling case that withdrawal could reconstitute that particular incubator.
However, there is also a compelling case to be made regarding expense and resource allocation.
We don’t need a functioning republican democracy to keep disruptive pressure on the important resistance groups. But again, see how well that worked last time. My point being that it is pretty easy to drop the ball using the strategy of surgical disruption.

But still, when do you decide too many resources have been allocated?

I don’t know what formula is adequate to evaluate that.

[urbanrealtor]

[quote=afx114]Whether or not you agree with the policy, I don’t understand why people are shocked that Obama wants to ramp up Afghanistan. He campaigned on it, did he not? And the majority of Americans voted for him based on that campaign, did they not? Damned if he does, damned if he doesn’t, I guess.[/quote]

Well put.
I am in support of the war in Afghanistan.
One can draw a line directly from that failed state to lots and lots of dead Americans.
There is a very compelling case that withdrawal could reconstitute that particular incubator.
However, there is also a compelling case to be made regarding expense and resource allocation.
We don’t need a functioning republican democracy to keep disruptive pressure on the important resistance groups. But again, see how well that worked last time. My point being that it is pretty easy to drop the ball using the strategy of surgical disruption.

But still, when do you decide too many resources have been allocated?

I don’t know what formula is adequate to evaluate that.

[Arraya]

Yeah, Afghanistan such a worthy cause… See, the funny thing about ME democracies is they always elect people that “we” don’t like. So we re-democratize them in the name of freedom.

://www.chris-floyd.com/component/content/article/1-latest-news/1850-obama-fires-diplomat-for-urging-fraud-probe-in-afghan-vote.html

In other words, the White House has decided to bite the bullet and keep the corrupt and ineffectual oil man that George W. Bush installed in office over the conquered land — no matter what the Afghan voters might want. And Galbraith’s continued insistence on actually investigating the vote fraud — which mirrors almost exactly the manipulations in Iran over which Obama and his war partners shed so many salt tears scant weeks ago — is now highly inconvenient. And so he is out.

Oh and Karzai’s brother is one of the biggest opium dealers in Afghanistan. Which actually works out for capital impaired US banks because the money winds up in them.

[Arraya]

Yeah, Afghanistan such a worthy cause… See, the funny thing about ME democracies is they always elect people that “we” don’t like. So we re-democratize them in the name of freedom.

://www.chris-floyd.com/component/content/article/1-latest-news/1850-obama-fires-diplomat-for-urging-fraud-probe-in-afghan-vote.html

In other words, the White House has decided to bite the bullet and keep the corrupt and ineffectual oil man that George W. Bush installed in office over the conquered land — no matter what the Afghan voters might want. And Galbraith’s continued insistence on actually investigating the vote fraud — which mirrors almost exactly the manipulations in Iran over which Obama and his war partners shed so many salt tears scant weeks ago — is now highly inconvenient. And so he is out.

Oh and Karzai’s brother is one of the biggest opium dealers in Afghanistan. Which actually works out for capital impaired US banks because the money winds up in them.

[Arraya]

Yeah, Afghanistan such a worthy cause… See, the funny thing about ME democracies is they always elect people that “we” don’t like. So we re-democratize them in the name of freedom.

://www.chris-floyd.com/component/content/article/1-latest-news/1850-obama-fires-diplomat-for-urging-fraud-probe-in-afghan-vote.html

In other words, the White House has decided to bite the bullet and keep the corrupt and ineffectual oil man that George W. Bush installed in office over the conquered land — no matter what the Afghan voters might want. And Galbraith’s continued insistence on actually investigating the vote fraud — which mirrors almost exactly the manipulations in Iran over which Obama and his war partners shed so many salt tears scant weeks ago — is now highly inconvenient. And so he is out.

Oh and Karzai’s brother is one of the biggest opium dealers in Afghanistan. Which actually works out for capital impaired US banks because the money winds up in them.

[Arraya]

Yeah, Afghanistan such a worthy cause… See, the funny thing about ME democracies is they always elect people that “we” don’t like. So we re-democratize them in the name of freedom.

://www.chris-floyd.com/component/content/article/1-latest-news/1850-obama-fires-diplomat-for-urging-fraud-probe-in-afghan-vote.html

In other words, the White House has decided to bite the bullet and keep the corrupt and ineffectual oil man that George W. Bush installed in office over the conquered land — no matter what the Afghan voters might want. And Galbraith’s continued insistence on actually investigating the vote fraud — which mirrors almost exactly the manipulations in Iran over which Obama and his war partners shed so many salt tears scant weeks ago — is now highly inconvenient. And so he is out.

Oh and Karzai’s brother is one of the biggest opium dealers in Afghanistan. Which actually works out for capital impaired US banks because the money winds up in them.

[Arraya]

Yeah, Afghanistan such a worthy cause… See, the funny thing about ME democracies is they always elect people that “we” don’t like. So we re-democratize them in the name of freedom.

://www.chris-floyd.com/component/content/article/1-latest-news/1850-obama-fires-diplomat-for-urging-fraud-probe-in-afghan-vote.html

In other words, the White House has decided to bite the bullet and keep the corrupt and ineffectual oil man that George W. Bush installed in office over the conquered land — no matter what the Afghan voters might want. And Galbraith’s continued insistence on actually investigating the vote fraud — which mirrors almost exactly the manipulations in Iran over which Obama and his war partners shed so many salt tears scant weeks ago — is now highly inconvenient. And so he is out.

Oh and Karzai’s brother is one of the biggest opium dealers in Afghanistan. Which actually works out for capital impaired US banks because the money winds up in them.

[briansd1]

[quote=Arraya]
Oh and Karzai’s brother is one of the biggest opium dealers in Afghanistan. Which actually works out for capital impaired US banks because the money winds up in them.[/quote]

He’s probably supplying the American market. After all, we are the biggest drug market.

Of course, that also feeds the corrections industrial complex.

[briansd1]

[quote=Arraya]
Oh and Karzai’s brother is one of the biggest opium dealers in Afghanistan. Which actually works out for capital impaired US banks because the money winds up in them.[/quote]

He’s probably supplying the American market. After all, we are the biggest drug market.

Of course, that also feeds the corrections industrial complex.

[briansd1]

[quote=Arraya]
Oh and Karzai’s brother is one of the biggest opium dealers in Afghanistan. Which actually works out for capital impaired US banks because the money winds up in them.[/quote]

He’s probably supplying the American market. After all, we are the biggest drug market.

Of course, that also feeds the corrections industrial complex.

[briansd1]

[quote=Arraya]
Oh and Karzai’s brother is one of the biggest opium dealers in Afghanistan. Which actually works out for capital impaired US banks because the money winds up in them.[/quote]

He’s probably supplying the American market. After all, we are the biggest drug market.

Of course, that also feeds the corrections industrial complex.

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