Nationswide protests-will they spread?

[CA renter]

[quote=svelte]Yes, that was excellent Arraya. Loved it.

I wish I knew the answer too. Or better yet, I wish we were implementing a solution right now as we speak.[/quote]

I think this guy is at least trying to address some of the most important issues facing our country (tax and trade policies) vs. the standard “talking points” used by the typical, bought, “Two-Party” candidates.

http://video.cnbc.com/gallery/?video=3000034601

The fact that he talks about the REAL issues is why he has no chance unless “We the People” get behind him.

[poorgradstudent]

[quote=flu]Trust me. I’m not confused. But I guarantee if people’s 401k go back up, people won’t be nearly as pissed.[/quote]
It’s not about 401ks. It’s about jobs. Once the unemployment rate falls below 8.5% the anger will deflate. A lot of the protestors are unemployed people with college degrees. People with good jobs don’t have time to protest; that’s part of why the tea party rallies were mostly old people.

[briansd1]

[quote=Arraya]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qOP2V_np2c0

[/quote]

Excellent video.

But how do we go beyond capitalism without a crash that causes untold suffering and poverty around the world?

At least the Occupy movement is asking the questions. Citizens should think, ask questions and demand answers.

[briansd1]

Poll: Occupy Wall Street More Popular Than Tea Party

http://blog.timesunion.com/capitol/archives/83881/poll-occupy-wall-street-more-popular-than-tea-party/

[markmax33]

[quote=briansd1][quote=Arraya]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qOP2V_np2c0

[/quote]

Excellent video.

But how do we go beyond capitalism without a crash that causes untold suffering and poverty around the world?

At least the Occupy movement is asking the questions. Citizens should think, ask questions and demand answers.[/quote]

We’ve never had capitalism. It’s been corporatism. Keynesian “captialism” is little more that socialism. You must read about Austrian economics.

[markmax33]

[quote=poorgradstudent][quote=flu]Trust me. I’m not confused. But I guarantee if people’s 401k go back up, people won’t be nearly as pissed.[/quote]
It’s not about 401ks. It’s about jobs. Once the unemployment rate falls below 8.5% the anger will deflate. A lot of the protestors are unemployed people with college degrees. People with good jobs don’t have time to protest; that’s part of why the tea party rallies were mostly old people.[/quote]

The tea party was established by Ron Paul supporters and then hijacked by others. Ron Paul supporters are mostly under 35.

[svelte]

[quote=markmax33]
Ron Paul supporters are mostly under 35.[/quote]

I pretty much figured that. Third party candidates usually attract the young. Unfortunately for them, their percentage of the total electorate continues to fall as the population ages.

[briansd1]

So far the occupy movement is growing around the world, not diminishing.

While members of the so-called 99% take part in Occupy Wall Street protests, a new website lets some of the wealthy 1% declare their support for the movement.

http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-occupy-wealthy-20111102,0,1183114.story

[sdrealtor]

FWIW I was in Encinitas and drove by their rally on Saturday. The 3 of them were very impressive – lol

[CA renter]

[quote=sdrealtor]FWIW I was in Encinitas and drove by their rally on Saturday. The 3 of them were very impressive – lol[/quote]

The most recent Encinitas rally wasn’t mentioned on the usual sites, so a lot of people didn’t know about it. Even so, there were probably closer to 50-100 people there, not three.

They’ve also started up a few more “Occupy” locations in North Couty, so it’s more spread out (not sure it’s such a good idea to spread out like that, IMO).

[Coronita]

Guess who joined one of the OWS protests recently?

Michael T Pines..

http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2011/nov/02/north-county-foreclosure-attorney-custody/

Ring a bell?

http://piggington.com/foreclosed_homeowners_break_into_former_home?page=1

[briansd1]

Ron Paul called the protest “legitimate effort”, rips Herman Cain.

http://articles.latimes.com/2011/oct/18/news/la-pn-paul-cain-occupy-wall-street-20111018

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/10/05/ron-paul-calls-occupy-wall-street-a-legitimate-effort/

[KSMountain]

Was reviewing old posts in this thread, this one caught my eye:
[quote=jpinpb]CAR – I’d go a step further and say the 1% is unproductive.[/quote]
Isn’t every anesthesiologist a member of the 1%? Every heart surgeon? Does someone suddenly cease being productive when they pass $350k per year? There is a long, long, long way from the 3,000,000 or so constituing the vast majority of the “1%” to the very few hedge fund managers and trust fund babies. Did you know some air traffic controllers in Europe (Portugal?) make over $300k US a year? Yep, look it up. (They’re unionized…)

But beyond the mathematical sloppiness of the “1%” phrase, I think there is a dehumanizing component to it, which your statement above exemplifies.

So let’s make it human. Remember RaptorDuck? I got the impression he was into drug discovery research and funding. He attributed his success to working harder and being more familiar with the technology than most of his peers. If you followed him (or her) around for a week, at the end of that week, do you think you’d call him unproductive?

[Arraya]

Interestingly major health gains for the human race were made from simple things like sanitation measures and understanding of nutrition. “Mircle” drugs and the medicalization in recent decades of so many of life’s vicissitudes—birth and death, for example—frequently cause more harm than good and rendered many people in effect lifelong patients. Modern medicine has not positively impacted modern life in aggregate.

The parabolic trajectory of unhealthy people over the past few decades props up the medical behemoth. With most of the unhealthyness caused by modern society..

Monetary success has less and less a corolation with really adding something beneficial to society as time goes on. We seem to profit off of problems generated by the same system. You might say, patterns of unhealthy behavior are needed for continuance.

[scaredyclassic]

Sickness is health.

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