Moving to SD – few questions

[phaster]

noticed ya have family in La Jolla,… yup its nice and kinda miss movies @thelot but have to wonder now that people are starting to work from home how this changes the whole work/live dynamic (for those of us fortunate to have the skillset and/or RE investments that are in demand)

just listed to a podcast that all piggs might find interesting,…

https://www.startups.com/community/startup-therapy/episode/63

sure its nice to live in a posh area like La Jolla, where there are all kinds of social connections ya won’t find in other areas (like neighbors or parents of other kids being billionaires and the doors so to speak that go w/ a direct connection to that kind of social circle)

BUT the BIG question is,… are you willing to sacrifice working long hours to live in the La Jolla area (listen to the podcast to get a better idea of what I am trying to say)

BTW don’t wan’t to give the impression that having billionaire status is an end all and be all (in the case of TRUMP who is an alleged billionaire I would say that he is a neighbored I would NOT want to have)

what I am trying to say is someone who managed to build up a company from the ground up (in the tech sector), MIGHT BE a good role model for your kids

[Coronita]

[quote=gzz]I don’t think early elementary school it makes any difference to be in a rich versus upper middle class district. They’ll be finger-painting and ABCing the same either way. Maybe by high school the difference in AP classes and peer influence will make that difference important.

And socially, do you want to be the poorest kid in CV or have a background similar to peers? Parents of small tots tend to socialize with their playmates.[/quote]

You know that, I know that. But some parents will still care a lot for that… Me? Guilty as charged.

[Coronita]

[quote=phaster]noticed ya have family in La Jolla,… yup its nice and kinda miss movies @thelot but have to wonder now that people are starting to work from home how this changes the whole work/live dynamic (for those of us fortunate to have the skillset and/or RE investments that are in demand)

just listed to a podcast that all piggs might find interesting,…

https://www.startups.com/community/startup-therapy/episode/63

sure its nice to live in a posh area like La Jolla, where there are all kinds of social connections ya won’t find in other areas (like neighbors or parents of other kids being billionaires and the doors so to speak that go w/ a direct connection to that kind of social circle)

BUT the BIG question is,… are you willing to sacrifice working long hours to live in the La Jolla area (listen to the podcast to get a better idea of what I am trying to say)

BTW don’t wan’t to give the impression that having billionaire status is an end all and be all (in the case of TRUMP who is an alleged billionaire I would say that he is a neighbored I would NOT want to have)

what I am trying to say is someone who managed to build up a company from the ground up (in the tech sector), MIGHT BE a good role model for your kids[/quote]

Might want to check the post again. Most of the schools listed above are NOT in La Jolla. In fact, I randomly picked near equal performing schools in different parts of San Diego, because these are the public school most other parents know about.

[Coronita]

OP, I’m not trying to persuade you to live in Carmel Valley, 92130. But assuming you already did some research and probably gotten some advice from your family in La Jolla, if you wanted to see what address goes to what school in 92130, here’s a school boundary map of the DMUSD

https://www.dmusd.org/domain/932

92130 is served by all the elementary school in the Del Mar Unifed School District. There is one exception. Part of 92130 is served by an excellent elementary school on the Solana Beach Unified school district. That school is as good as the schools in DMUSD, probably.even better than many.

[zk]

[quote=Coronita]

If you REALLLY want to live around this area and want to stay in a corporate owned housing, I’d say the better one is Torrey Villas. At least it’s gated and the amenities is much better.

https://www.irvinecompanyapartments.com/lp/san-diego.html

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1 data point: We lived in Torrey Villas for a year in 2005 after we sold our house. We liked it a lot. Of course, things could have changed over 15 years.

I’ll throw in my usual weather spiel while I’m, here, too: The closer you are to the coast, the cooler and cloudier it is in the spring and summer. Every mile you get further from the coast makes a difference. Right on the coast you’ll have lots of days in the upper 60’s with overcast. Carmel Valley is a little warmer and sunnier, Rancho Penasquitos more so, Scripps Ranch even more so. By the time you get to Poway, you’ll have a lot of days in the 80’s with sunshine. In Ramona, it gets hot.

[spdrun]

Cool and cloudy is beautiful though, compared to sweaty, A/C-needing 85 or 90-degree weather.

[Coronita]

Roughly 6-8 degrees difference between Carmel valley and Rancho Bernardo. That difference ends up being the monetary difference you spend on running your AC each day in the summer or not.

[ltsddd]

I’ll take sunny, 80 degrees over cloudy and 70 any day. Besides, the sunnier the better my solar system works for me.

[Tin369]

Sorry I am on mobile, but thanks for steering me away from Torrey garden apartments.
Being in Carmel valley it is surprising to see that it has bad reviews specially the theft.

We are not set on any location yet but would like to stay a bit closer to take advantage of being close to family which is why we want to temporarily relocate there and hopefully make a permanent move.

We are open to renting townhouse or sfh.

I think anything along the 56 should be good. Is Rancho penesquitos really 10 degrees hotter than the coast?

We are most confused about schools (kindergarten) and if we decide to come in August will they still enroll us?

We want to save money and not send to private schools. As we will be paying mortgage on our house in the east coasts nd eating that cost while also paying high renting in San Diego.

Airbnb is not any cheaper and I am not seeing anything less than $3000, La Jolla is close to 4-5k.

[SDNative2]

You might want to search the threads here for school recommendations. I recall a really helpful discussion a few years ago about Ls Jolla vs. North Pacific Beach vs. Carmel Valley.

Other than that, you can still check the California Dept. of Education website to compare schools here:

Narrative:
https://www.sarconline.org/

Data:
https://www.cde.ca.gov/ta/ac/cm/

You can dig further on specific schools, but this is a starting point.

Best wishes~

[zk]

[quote=Tin369] Is Rancho penesquitos really 10 degrees hotter than the coast?

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First, there’s really only a significant temperature difference when there’s a cool seabreeze. Which is most of the spring and summer and I’d say sometimes in the fall. On some days the marine layer goes all the way to the mountains and stays all day. On those days the temperature difference isn’t so great. Those days are pretty common in May and June (although not this year).

Penasquitos is a couple miles in width. So the very east parts of RP will be probably two degrees warmer than the western parts.

And “the coast,” temperature wise, really means right at the coast. Within, maybe, a quarter mile. That first mile is the biggest, then the gradient shallows (but is still significant). There are lots of days in the summer when the coast doesn’t get above 68.

But, yes, I would guess that the very eastern parts of RP average about 8 or 10 degrees hotter than the immediate coast in the summer (on days when the marine layer doesn’t cover RP all day). The western parts a bit less.

This is all just my (fairly close) observations over the years, but others might have other information.

Edit:

RP is actually about 4 miles wide. The closest part of it is about 5 1/2 miles from the ocean and the farthest about 9 1/2 miles. But the bulk of it is 7-9 miles from the ocean. Those are the areas I was using. But if you live in the very western part, you might only be 5 to 7 degrees warmer than the coast.

[Coronita]

[quote=Tin369]Sorry I am on mobile, but thanks for steering me away from Torrey garden apartments.
Being in Carmel valley it is surprising to see that it has bad reviews specially the theft.

We are not set on any location yet but would like to stay a bit closer to take advantage of being close to family which is why we want to temporarily relocate there and hopefully make a permanent move.

We are open to renting townhouse or sfh.

I think anything along the 56 should be good. Is Rancho penesquitos really 10 degrees hotter than the coast?

We are most confused about schools (kindergarten) and if we decide to come in August will they still enroll us?

We want to save money and not send to private schools. As we will be paying mortgage on our house in the east coasts nd eating that cost while also paying high renting in San Diego.

Airbnb is not any cheaper and I am not seeing anything less than $3000, La Jolla is close to 4-5k.[/quote]

10 degrees hotter in RP. It depends. Carmel Valley is large, the closer you are to the coast the more of the ocean breeze you get. The 8-10 degree difference is an approximate based in my cars temperature gauge as I’ve seen it change from I15 to 56west all the way to the 5 interchange. It’s not always that different… sometimes…

Kindergarten enrollment. If you come in August, they should allow a late enrollment. You might not get the school of your choice even if you live in the boundary but they should let you enroll at least one school in the district . Example, if you rent a home that you think will give you access to Ocean Air, they might be at capacity, so they might make you enroll your kid at Torrey Hills or Ashley Falls or one of the schools not as crowded.

Personally, I don’t think it really makes that much difference in the DMUSD district which school it is. It might be of a difference in a different district where the schools are drastically different…mainly based in parental involvement. The best thing I would do is look up the school district’s office and call them and ask. the DMUSD usually has an office open for calls over the summer. And Poway Unified I think does too.

Carlsbad is also a very nice area, but I’m guessing you want to be closer to LJ. Traffic won’t be as bad probably when they finally finish the I-5 expansion. I think in 2021-22

Here’s some resources to help

https://www.dmusd.org/Page/8868
https://www.dmusd.org/Page/8832

One nice thing about this district is if your kid has special needs, they do have a lot of special needs teaching assistants and support staff.

Let me know if you need additional info.

[Tin369]

Thanks about the enrolllment informations and thank you all for continuing this discussion with me. I am feeling overwhelmed, but knowing that the school may or may not open and for kindergarten even if it opens we may keep them home.

The biggest challenge we have is being close to La Jolla and finding a decent apartment or townhouse that is not super expensive. Close to La Jolla so we can take advantage of family support. But 20min from La Jolla is ok too if it means getting a bigger apartment it house.

[Coronita]

Westview is good high school. There is a neglible amount of difference between elementary school in Carmel Valley, RB, 4s, Poway, Carlsbad. But it’s.still way too early to think about high school or even middle school.

I anticipate since you are only going to be trying out San Diego right now, if you do decide to stay, you will probably move again anyway.

I would ask other people as well who live in some of these other areas who can give you more details about those schools.

Since you will be working from home, you have a lot of flexibility where you can live.

If you are concerned about whether school districts will allow late enrollment, one thing to do is go to Zillow and look up a house in a given area. The listing will give you the school they belong to and you can Google the school and get the contact info for the school district to call to find out about their enrollment process.

[zk]

[quote=Tin369]Thanks about the enrolllment informations and thank you all for continuing this discussion with me. I am feeling overwhelmed, but knowing that the school may or may not open and for kindergarten even if it opens we may keep them home.

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Honestly, given the areas you’re choosing from, I don’t think which elementary school your kids go to is going to amount to a hill of beans. Your kid will find delightful teachers and classmates in Carmel Valley, Rancho Penasquitos, 4S Ranch, Scripps Ranch, Rancho Bernardo, or any of the communities in this area. Within Carmel Valley, there is even less difference. You really can’t go wrong in Carmel Valley.

High school might be different. (Then it might not).

Canyon Crest Academy sent (I heard) 11 kids to MIT last year. And a bunch to Harvard, Stanford, Yale, etc. Kids (and their parents) are very motivated there. Of course, that kind of competition might not be for everybody.

Torrey Pines is also an excellent school. But I would put it a firm notch below CCA academically, especially if you include the students and the atmosphere (as opposed to just the coursework, resources, and teachers).

Torrey Pines is a much more Rah-Rah! kind of atmosphere, more like your typical clique-y suburban high school, whereas CCA is (socially) more modern, diverse, and accepting. And (last I heard) you get to choose between those high schools, so you and your kids have a chance to pick what’s best for them.

I don’t know much about Westview High School, but I have a few friends whose kids went there and I hear great things.

As you go further east, I believe objective measures show that the high schools aren’t quite as good out there. But still very good.

All that said, some will question whether it’s easier to get into a great college from a great high school or not. That might be a debate to follow as your kids get closer to high school.

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