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December 23, 2014 at 12:38 AM #781292December 23, 2014 at 12:51 AM #781293bearishgurlParticipant
[quote=CA renter]Thanks, Brian!
Through my searches, I had come up with 4591 Orchard Ave. Forgot that Hatfield had mentioned that this was the next-door neighbor.
Even if the house was bought decades ago, don’t you think that an $80,000 valuation seems WAY below value, even if the assessment had just gone up by 2% each year? I’ve seen a lot of houses that were purchased way back when (including my MIL’s house that was purchased by her parents), but have not seen a valuation that low for a home in an area like this. They also updated the owner’s name, so I’m wondering why the amount doesn’t match up. And the sale price of $480K looks VERY shady.
Either way, I think Hatfield is on to something here. I’m glad he’s decided to look into it further. I will do whatever I can to help, too.[/quote]
I’ve viewed dozens of grant deeds on microfilm of parcels in 92106 (Roseville) and 92107 (Hill St/upper OB), some with 270 degree views, in which the tax stamps revealed that the property sold for $40-44K between 1970 and 1974. It was not uncommon at all.
December 23, 2014 at 1:23 AM #781294CA renterParticipantThanks for doing the research on this, BG. That is definitely your forte!
Still deserves a closer look, IMO. The home was sold for below market value. In a case like this, it doesn’t matter if the neighbor was in the right place at the right time; the trustee has an obligation to get the highest price for the estate. I’ve been the trustee/executor of a couple of estates/trusts, and can assure you that I would never sell something without putting it on the open market for a sufficient enough time to attract the highest price. A trustee can be sued for that. In this particular case, if the only beneficiary is the disabled son, the trustee might feel emboldened to do things that aren’t in the best interests of the beneficiary.
December 23, 2014 at 3:03 AM #781295HatfieldParticipant[quote=bearishgurl]It appears that the “sales” data (parcel transfer transactions) for the last two years has been removed from the assessor’s new system so I cannot corroborate Hatfield’s purported sales price. If anyone can find it, let us know.[/quote]
Actually, the sales data was the only thing I was able to pull up on my own. I can’t figure out how to make a deep link to it, but you can go to https://arcc.sdcounty.ca.gov/Pages/Property-Sales.aspx and type in either the APN or the Street Address, you can see the $480k sales price yourself.
As others have mentioned, there are a LOT of properties in OB with comically low assessed values. I think houses here were cheeeeeep in the 60s and 70s, and my guess is that this property had been in the family for a long time until the recent sale.
As for whether I want justice or revenge, I’m not sure how to answer that. When I first heard about the sales price my first reaction was “shit, I would have bought that property for that price.” But then when I heard the particulars I felt rather sickened. If in fact the benefactor of the estate is disabled, I would like to see him made whole, and if in fact the neighbors took advantage of his situation, there should be consequences for that.
Sorry, I just got in and it’s late, and I was only able to skim the thread before heading to bed. I’ll give it a deeper read in the morning Thank you all for your remarkable research.
December 23, 2014 at 6:57 AM #781297AnonymousGuestThere’s no better way to enjoy the Holiday season than a little stalking in the company of friends.
December 23, 2014 at 10:37 AM #781301FlyerInHiGuestThat’s called gossip that people partake in at church or on the townsquare. Public records are public so people can look and talk.
December 23, 2014 at 10:41 AM #781302FlyerInHiGuestCAr, the document date on the tax bill is 2010. So I’m assuming probate was that year. Then in 2014, the house was sold to the current owner.
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