lennar homes in carmel valley

[CA renter]

[quote=The-Shoveler]Yep that particular area is really bad from Santa Monica to downtown and LAX, yep the 10 and 405, really really bad.

Most the rest is not nearly so bad.

Very few people actually work downtown, that’s mostly the city workers,

In L.A. most people work in the burbs,

So you end up driving from say Simi Valley to Agoura hills, or from westlake to Valencia, and visa versa
Maybe Pasadena to Encino, these are the typical commutes that people end up with when they first started out 15 minutes away,[/quote]

Agree with this. We’re native Angelinos and most of the people we know up there don’t commute on the freeways — maybe 20-30% of our friends/relatives commute by freeway. In LA, you tend to live and work in a 5-10 mile radius from home, and many, many people stay within 5 miles from home. Things are laid out in a nice grid pattern, so there are multiple ways to get around, too, unlike here in SD…and the traffic lights function a lot better in LA. Additionally, the locals know all the “secret” ways to get from one place to another, as The-Shoveler pointed out, so it’s not nearly as bad as it looks from the freeways when passing through or spending time as a tourist.

[bearishgurl]

[quote=The-Shoveler]”Since good jobs are almost everywhere in LA County, this requirement can likely be met ”

Not so much,

you’re starting an urban legend I think…[/quote]

That was not my intention, shoveler. I’m referring to FIRE industry jobs and law. I’m a paralegal but am also qualified to work in escrow, title cos, property mgmt or the insurance industry. These jobs are nearly EVERYWHERE in LA County, as well and Orange and Ventura Counties. Ventura County is actually the insurance capital of SoCal.

CAR is right. The east-west thoroughfares of LA County are VERY lo-o-o-ong and I have found a couple of them (Figueroa St is my fav) to have synchronized traffic lights.

Length 25.00 mi (40.23 km)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Figueroa_Street

Although I don’t know all the secret “ins and outs,” of LA County (as CAR does), I DO know where many of them are in SF and Alameda Counties. Most of them are in the form of completely unmarked (or signed behind large trees) freeway entrances and underpasses :=0

[bearishgurl]

[quote=The-Shoveler]… Also a lot of times the High Tech company, started as as small company next to the Rich guy’s home who started it, you’er average worker engineer needs to drive unless he wants to live in a condo (mostly what he can afford there and these can run 500K-700K for a 2 bed 2 bath in some area’s in L.A.)[/quote]

Yes, I recently checked, shoveler, and was shocked to discover that 1 br condos in Long Beach are now being listed in the $500K range. That is absolutely astounding in my book.

[earlyretirement]

[quote=CA renter][quote=The-Shoveler]Yep that particular area is really bad from Santa Monica to downtown and LAX, yep the 10 and 405, really really bad.

Most the rest is not nearly so bad.

Very few people actually work downtown, that’s mostly the city workers,

In L.A. most people work in the burbs,

So you end up driving from say Simi Valley to Agoura hills, or from westlake to Valencia, and visa versa
Maybe Pasadena to Encino, these are the typical commutes that people end up with when they first started out 15 minutes away,[/quote]

Agree with this. We’re native Angelinos and most of the people we know up there don’t commute on the freeways — maybe 20-30% of our friends/relatives commute by freeway. In LA, you tend to live and work in a 5-10 mile radius from home, and many, many people stay within 5 miles from home. Things are laid out in a nice grid pattern, so there are multiple ways to get around, too, unlike here in SD…and the traffic lights function a lot better in LA. Additionally, the locals know all the “secret” ways to get from one place to another, as The-Shoveler pointed out, so it’s not nearly as bad as it looks from the freeways when passing through or spending time as a tourist.[/quote]

Ah ok got it. Yeah, I don’t know all the short cuts up there. I don’t know the city nearly good enough to know all the secret ways to get around. (I wish I did). GPS doesn’t always work so good when it comes to that. LOL.

I just know every time we go up there traffic is chaotic, even during the middle of the day. We’re heading up to Beverly Hills here next month for my wife’s birthday and looks like I need to take you along CAR. 😉

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