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September 14, 2008 at 9:53 PM #270649September 15, 2008 at 2:26 PM #270576AnonymousGuest
Why is BofA offering $29/share for Merrill Lynch? Because they are paying for it in stock, that’s why. And in case you were wondering what the market thinks of the deal, BofA stock was down over 7 points today (over 21%) while Merrill stock closed at $17, up a penny for the day. This tells me that the actual value of the deal will be significantly less than $29/share. Stay tuned. Oh, btw, I predict this deal WILL close. It just won’t be worth $29/share. Merrill’s decision to sell off its remaining subprime mortgage holdings a few weeks back is looking good right about now, wouldn’t you say?
September 15, 2008 at 2:26 PM #270812AnonymousGuestWhy is BofA offering $29/share for Merrill Lynch? Because they are paying for it in stock, that’s why. And in case you were wondering what the market thinks of the deal, BofA stock was down over 7 points today (over 21%) while Merrill stock closed at $17, up a penny for the day. This tells me that the actual value of the deal will be significantly less than $29/share. Stay tuned. Oh, btw, I predict this deal WILL close. It just won’t be worth $29/share. Merrill’s decision to sell off its remaining subprime mortgage holdings a few weeks back is looking good right about now, wouldn’t you say?
September 15, 2008 at 2:26 PM #270823AnonymousGuestWhy is BofA offering $29/share for Merrill Lynch? Because they are paying for it in stock, that’s why. And in case you were wondering what the market thinks of the deal, BofA stock was down over 7 points today (over 21%) while Merrill stock closed at $17, up a penny for the day. This tells me that the actual value of the deal will be significantly less than $29/share. Stay tuned. Oh, btw, I predict this deal WILL close. It just won’t be worth $29/share. Merrill’s decision to sell off its remaining subprime mortgage holdings a few weeks back is looking good right about now, wouldn’t you say?
September 15, 2008 at 2:26 PM #270863AnonymousGuestWhy is BofA offering $29/share for Merrill Lynch? Because they are paying for it in stock, that’s why. And in case you were wondering what the market thinks of the deal, BofA stock was down over 7 points today (over 21%) while Merrill stock closed at $17, up a penny for the day. This tells me that the actual value of the deal will be significantly less than $29/share. Stay tuned. Oh, btw, I predict this deal WILL close. It just won’t be worth $29/share. Merrill’s decision to sell off its remaining subprime mortgage holdings a few weeks back is looking good right about now, wouldn’t you say?
September 15, 2008 at 2:26 PM #270890AnonymousGuestWhy is BofA offering $29/share for Merrill Lynch? Because they are paying for it in stock, that’s why. And in case you were wondering what the market thinks of the deal, BofA stock was down over 7 points today (over 21%) while Merrill stock closed at $17, up a penny for the day. This tells me that the actual value of the deal will be significantly less than $29/share. Stay tuned. Oh, btw, I predict this deal WILL close. It just won’t be worth $29/share. Merrill’s decision to sell off its remaining subprime mortgage holdings a few weeks back is looking good right about now, wouldn’t you say?
September 15, 2008 at 10:24 PM #270766daveljParticipant[quote=TheBreeze][quote=davelj]
In this whole bizarre mess, the price BofA is paying for Merrill is the most bizarre. Normally I can come up with some oddball potential explanation. But this one? Can’t do it. I’m mystified.
But I’m assuming it has some tie into saving BofA’s ass in the end. For example, if allowing Merrill to fail after Lehman failed then caused BofA to go down the tubes as a result (due to a lack of confidence in the system) then MAYBE BofA figured: “We’re the only party that can buy these clowns and we have to make it look like all of the clowns are worth something. Because if the clowns aren’t worth anything, then we’re not worth anything (even though we’re a money center bank – a higher caliber of clown than the investment banks). The illusion must be maintained that clowns are valuable. Therefore, we will use our stock (re: funny money) as a currency and buy Merrill at a premium to keep the illusion of value in tact… hopefully long enough to get us all out of the woods.”
That’s the best I can do. Totally weird.[/quote]
Your explanation sounds perfectly plausible in this environment.
[/quote]Actually, I feel stupid. Mike Shedlock came up with the (obvious and) most logical explanation for the BofA/Merrill pricing silliness:
“…there is one other possible explanation for this foolishness: [BofA’s] Lewis was in a mad rush to enhance his Ego. This merger (if it goes through) would create a behemoth that would rival Citigroup (C) in terms of assets under management. Lewis, in an impatient state did not care what he paid to achieve that fame.”
Makes perfect sense to me.
September 15, 2008 at 10:24 PM #271003daveljParticipant[quote=TheBreeze][quote=davelj]
In this whole bizarre mess, the price BofA is paying for Merrill is the most bizarre. Normally I can come up with some oddball potential explanation. But this one? Can’t do it. I’m mystified.
But I’m assuming it has some tie into saving BofA’s ass in the end. For example, if allowing Merrill to fail after Lehman failed then caused BofA to go down the tubes as a result (due to a lack of confidence in the system) then MAYBE BofA figured: “We’re the only party that can buy these clowns and we have to make it look like all of the clowns are worth something. Because if the clowns aren’t worth anything, then we’re not worth anything (even though we’re a money center bank – a higher caliber of clown than the investment banks). The illusion must be maintained that clowns are valuable. Therefore, we will use our stock (re: funny money) as a currency and buy Merrill at a premium to keep the illusion of value in tact… hopefully long enough to get us all out of the woods.”
That’s the best I can do. Totally weird.[/quote]
Your explanation sounds perfectly plausible in this environment.
[/quote]Actually, I feel stupid. Mike Shedlock came up with the (obvious and) most logical explanation for the BofA/Merrill pricing silliness:
“…there is one other possible explanation for this foolishness: [BofA’s] Lewis was in a mad rush to enhance his Ego. This merger (if it goes through) would create a behemoth that would rival Citigroup (C) in terms of assets under management. Lewis, in an impatient state did not care what he paid to achieve that fame.”
Makes perfect sense to me.
September 15, 2008 at 10:24 PM #271017daveljParticipant[quote=TheBreeze][quote=davelj]
In this whole bizarre mess, the price BofA is paying for Merrill is the most bizarre. Normally I can come up with some oddball potential explanation. But this one? Can’t do it. I’m mystified.
But I’m assuming it has some tie into saving BofA’s ass in the end. For example, if allowing Merrill to fail after Lehman failed then caused BofA to go down the tubes as a result (due to a lack of confidence in the system) then MAYBE BofA figured: “We’re the only party that can buy these clowns and we have to make it look like all of the clowns are worth something. Because if the clowns aren’t worth anything, then we’re not worth anything (even though we’re a money center bank – a higher caliber of clown than the investment banks). The illusion must be maintained that clowns are valuable. Therefore, we will use our stock (re: funny money) as a currency and buy Merrill at a premium to keep the illusion of value in tact… hopefully long enough to get us all out of the woods.”
That’s the best I can do. Totally weird.[/quote]
Your explanation sounds perfectly plausible in this environment.
[/quote]Actually, I feel stupid. Mike Shedlock came up with the (obvious and) most logical explanation for the BofA/Merrill pricing silliness:
“…there is one other possible explanation for this foolishness: [BofA’s] Lewis was in a mad rush to enhance his Ego. This merger (if it goes through) would create a behemoth that would rival Citigroup (C) in terms of assets under management. Lewis, in an impatient state did not care what he paid to achieve that fame.”
Makes perfect sense to me.
September 15, 2008 at 10:24 PM #271057daveljParticipant[quote=TheBreeze][quote=davelj]
In this whole bizarre mess, the price BofA is paying for Merrill is the most bizarre. Normally I can come up with some oddball potential explanation. But this one? Can’t do it. I’m mystified.
But I’m assuming it has some tie into saving BofA’s ass in the end. For example, if allowing Merrill to fail after Lehman failed then caused BofA to go down the tubes as a result (due to a lack of confidence in the system) then MAYBE BofA figured: “We’re the only party that can buy these clowns and we have to make it look like all of the clowns are worth something. Because if the clowns aren’t worth anything, then we’re not worth anything (even though we’re a money center bank – a higher caliber of clown than the investment banks). The illusion must be maintained that clowns are valuable. Therefore, we will use our stock (re: funny money) as a currency and buy Merrill at a premium to keep the illusion of value in tact… hopefully long enough to get us all out of the woods.”
That’s the best I can do. Totally weird.[/quote]
Your explanation sounds perfectly plausible in this environment.
[/quote]Actually, I feel stupid. Mike Shedlock came up with the (obvious and) most logical explanation for the BofA/Merrill pricing silliness:
“…there is one other possible explanation for this foolishness: [BofA’s] Lewis was in a mad rush to enhance his Ego. This merger (if it goes through) would create a behemoth that would rival Citigroup (C) in terms of assets under management. Lewis, in an impatient state did not care what he paid to achieve that fame.”
Makes perfect sense to me.
September 15, 2008 at 10:24 PM #271083daveljParticipant[quote=TheBreeze][quote=davelj]
In this whole bizarre mess, the price BofA is paying for Merrill is the most bizarre. Normally I can come up with some oddball potential explanation. But this one? Can’t do it. I’m mystified.
But I’m assuming it has some tie into saving BofA’s ass in the end. For example, if allowing Merrill to fail after Lehman failed then caused BofA to go down the tubes as a result (due to a lack of confidence in the system) then MAYBE BofA figured: “We’re the only party that can buy these clowns and we have to make it look like all of the clowns are worth something. Because if the clowns aren’t worth anything, then we’re not worth anything (even though we’re a money center bank – a higher caliber of clown than the investment banks). The illusion must be maintained that clowns are valuable. Therefore, we will use our stock (re: funny money) as a currency and buy Merrill at a premium to keep the illusion of value in tact… hopefully long enough to get us all out of the woods.”
That’s the best I can do. Totally weird.[/quote]
Your explanation sounds perfectly plausible in this environment.
[/quote]Actually, I feel stupid. Mike Shedlock came up with the (obvious and) most logical explanation for the BofA/Merrill pricing silliness:
“…there is one other possible explanation for this foolishness: [BofA’s] Lewis was in a mad rush to enhance his Ego. This merger (if it goes through) would create a behemoth that would rival Citigroup (C) in terms of assets under management. Lewis, in an impatient state did not care what he paid to achieve that fame.”
Makes perfect sense to me.
September 16, 2008 at 11:26 AM #270921HereWeGoParticipantBut it’s an all stock deal, right? So BAC just issues new stock to cover the Merrill purchase, and the only hit from a cash perspective is any taxation on the issuance of the new stock. What am I missing? If BAC had paid $29 cash for each MER share, that’s different.
Is the real cost to BAC much lower than suggested in most financial articles and blogs?
September 16, 2008 at 11:26 AM #271161HereWeGoParticipantBut it’s an all stock deal, right? So BAC just issues new stock to cover the Merrill purchase, and the only hit from a cash perspective is any taxation on the issuance of the new stock. What am I missing? If BAC had paid $29 cash for each MER share, that’s different.
Is the real cost to BAC much lower than suggested in most financial articles and blogs?
September 16, 2008 at 11:26 AM #271173HereWeGoParticipantBut it’s an all stock deal, right? So BAC just issues new stock to cover the Merrill purchase, and the only hit from a cash perspective is any taxation on the issuance of the new stock. What am I missing? If BAC had paid $29 cash for each MER share, that’s different.
Is the real cost to BAC much lower than suggested in most financial articles and blogs?
September 16, 2008 at 11:26 AM #271213HereWeGoParticipantBut it’s an all stock deal, right? So BAC just issues new stock to cover the Merrill purchase, and the only hit from a cash perspective is any taxation on the issuance of the new stock. What am I missing? If BAC had paid $29 cash for each MER share, that’s different.
Is the real cost to BAC much lower than suggested in most financial articles and blogs?
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