Lehman Bailout this Weekend (Bear Stearns replay)

[SD Transplant]

This just bothers me to a new degree. I understand or more precisely look the other way at the Freddy/Fannie bail out ( we don’t want to go back to the stone age or barter days)…….ok…understood.

But if more bailouts are set for the near future (Lehman or WAMU), I’m questioning WHY in the world we’re even making comments with respect to China, Russia’s governments – they do seem to manage things a lot better now. It seems that the world politicians are set on the new world order – Oligarchy system (top % run the show everything else is smoking mirrors). I happend to catch a few minutes of Ron Paul’s message on CNN vis-a-vis not supporting either McCain or Obama….and I agree with him completly.

I see neither sollution best for us, politicians (both sides) neatly package their speech products with a pretty pink lipstick….and go find victims.

This has to stop….I’ve left comunism to come here (is it me? or why it keeps following me 🙂

[XBoxBoy]

[quote=SD Transplant]I happend to catch a few minutes of Ron Paul’s message on CNN vis-a-vis not supporting either McCain or Obama….and I agree with him completly.[/quote]

I have a friend who argues politics with me a lot. Recently I asked him which candidate would be better for the economy. His response was, it just doesn’t matter. Both of them are going to bring us the same big government solutions. There will be minor differences on social issues, ie abortion, but for the economy, neither will do anything other than cater to wall streets special interest. I found it extremely hard to argue with him. Maybe some of these wise piggies can tell us how these two are really different in their handling of the economy. (One request though, take the party dogma for a walk. I’m really only interested in what they will actually do different, not in the ideological ranting that will be tossed out the window as soon as they are in office)

XBoxBoy

[XBoxBoy]

[quote=SD Transplant]I happend to catch a few minutes of Ron Paul’s message on CNN vis-a-vis not supporting either McCain or Obama….and I agree with him completly.[/quote]

I have a friend who argues politics with me a lot. Recently I asked him which candidate would be better for the economy. His response was, it just doesn’t matter. Both of them are going to bring us the same big government solutions. There will be minor differences on social issues, ie abortion, but for the economy, neither will do anything other than cater to wall streets special interest. I found it extremely hard to argue with him. Maybe some of these wise piggies can tell us how these two are really different in their handling of the economy. (One request though, take the party dogma for a walk. I’m really only interested in what they will actually do different, not in the ideological ranting that will be tossed out the window as soon as they are in office)

XBoxBoy

[XBoxBoy]

[quote=SD Transplant]I happend to catch a few minutes of Ron Paul’s message on CNN vis-a-vis not supporting either McCain or Obama….and I agree with him completly.[/quote]

I have a friend who argues politics with me a lot. Recently I asked him which candidate would be better for the economy. His response was, it just doesn’t matter. Both of them are going to bring us the same big government solutions. There will be minor differences on social issues, ie abortion, but for the economy, neither will do anything other than cater to wall streets special interest. I found it extremely hard to argue with him. Maybe some of these wise piggies can tell us how these two are really different in their handling of the economy. (One request though, take the party dogma for a walk. I’m really only interested in what they will actually do different, not in the ideological ranting that will be tossed out the window as soon as they are in office)

XBoxBoy

[XBoxBoy]

[quote=SD Transplant]I happend to catch a few minutes of Ron Paul’s message on CNN vis-a-vis not supporting either McCain or Obama….and I agree with him completly.[/quote]

I have a friend who argues politics with me a lot. Recently I asked him which candidate would be better for the economy. His response was, it just doesn’t matter. Both of them are going to bring us the same big government solutions. There will be minor differences on social issues, ie abortion, but for the economy, neither will do anything other than cater to wall streets special interest. I found it extremely hard to argue with him. Maybe some of these wise piggies can tell us how these two are really different in their handling of the economy. (One request though, take the party dogma for a walk. I’m really only interested in what they will actually do different, not in the ideological ranting that will be tossed out the window as soon as they are in office)

XBoxBoy

[XBoxBoy]

[quote=SD Transplant]I happend to catch a few minutes of Ron Paul’s message on CNN vis-a-vis not supporting either McCain or Obama….and I agree with him completly.[/quote]

I have a friend who argues politics with me a lot. Recently I asked him which candidate would be better for the economy. His response was, it just doesn’t matter. Both of them are going to bring us the same big government solutions. There will be minor differences on social issues, ie abortion, but for the economy, neither will do anything other than cater to wall streets special interest. I found it extremely hard to argue with him. Maybe some of these wise piggies can tell us how these two are really different in their handling of the economy. (One request though, take the party dogma for a walk. I’m really only interested in what they will actually do different, not in the ideological ranting that will be tossed out the window as soon as they are in office)

XBoxBoy

[Portlock]

Here is a link to an estimate done by the Tax Policy Center (as reported by cnn.money) that discusses the candidates individual government spending plans:

http://money.cnn.com/2008/09/05/news/economy/mccain_claim_spending/index.htm

[Portlock]

Here is a link to an estimate done by the Tax Policy Center (as reported by cnn.money) that discusses the candidates individual government spending plans:

http://money.cnn.com/2008/09/05/news/economy/mccain_claim_spending/index.htm

[Portlock]

Here is a link to an estimate done by the Tax Policy Center (as reported by cnn.money) that discusses the candidates individual government spending plans:

http://money.cnn.com/2008/09/05/news/economy/mccain_claim_spending/index.htm

[Portlock]

Here is a link to an estimate done by the Tax Policy Center (as reported by cnn.money) that discusses the candidates individual government spending plans:

http://money.cnn.com/2008/09/05/news/economy/mccain_claim_spending/index.htm

[Portlock]

Here is a link to an estimate done by the Tax Policy Center (as reported by cnn.money) that discusses the candidates individual government spending plans:

http://money.cnn.com/2008/09/05/news/economy/mccain_claim_spending/index.htm

[XBoxBoy]

Portlock, the problem with this piece is that is an analysis of the promises/claims/proposals of the candidates and as such is not based in reality. George Bush claimed he was going to cut taxes, cut spending and balance the budget. Guess that worked our real well, huh?

Without a serious (cynical?) analysis of what the candidates will actual do, not what they promise in order to get elected, the piece is nothing but fluff.

My question obviously involves a certain amount of guesswork, since it’s always hard to know what the candidates will really do when elected. But I’d rather live with seriously thought out guesses than with campaign promises that have repeated been demonstrated to be nothing but fluff.

For instance, would either of them seriously consider fighting against the type of bailouts that we are currently seeing? Would either of them seriously consider and actually have a chance of restructing Social Security? Would either of them have any real effect on rising health care? Would either of them actually use the bully pulpit to encourage Americans to consume less and save more? Would either of them actually consider changing our tax structure to tax things we want to discourage, such as pollution, instead of things we do want to encourage like earning a living? Maybe the bottom line to this question is whether either of them actually has the courage to stand up to the special interests and the whining of the FBs that they need a handout? Frankly, I find it hard to believe either has nearly enough courage to do something like that.

XBoxBoy

[XBoxBoy]

Portlock, the problem with this piece is that is an analysis of the promises/claims/proposals of the candidates and as such is not based in reality. George Bush claimed he was going to cut taxes, cut spending and balance the budget. Guess that worked our real well, huh?

Without a serious (cynical?) analysis of what the candidates will actual do, not what they promise in order to get elected, the piece is nothing but fluff.

My question obviously involves a certain amount of guesswork, since it’s always hard to know what the candidates will really do when elected. But I’d rather live with seriously thought out guesses than with campaign promises that have repeated been demonstrated to be nothing but fluff.

For instance, would either of them seriously consider fighting against the type of bailouts that we are currently seeing? Would either of them seriously consider and actually have a chance of restructing Social Security? Would either of them have any real effect on rising health care? Would either of them actually use the bully pulpit to encourage Americans to consume less and save more? Would either of them actually consider changing our tax structure to tax things we want to discourage, such as pollution, instead of things we do want to encourage like earning a living? Maybe the bottom line to this question is whether either of them actually has the courage to stand up to the special interests and the whining of the FBs that they need a handout? Frankly, I find it hard to believe either has nearly enough courage to do something like that.

XBoxBoy

[XBoxBoy]

Portlock, the problem with this piece is that is an analysis of the promises/claims/proposals of the candidates and as such is not based in reality. George Bush claimed he was going to cut taxes, cut spending and balance the budget. Guess that worked our real well, huh?

Without a serious (cynical?) analysis of what the candidates will actual do, not what they promise in order to get elected, the piece is nothing but fluff.

My question obviously involves a certain amount of guesswork, since it’s always hard to know what the candidates will really do when elected. But I’d rather live with seriously thought out guesses than with campaign promises that have repeated been demonstrated to be nothing but fluff.

For instance, would either of them seriously consider fighting against the type of bailouts that we are currently seeing? Would either of them seriously consider and actually have a chance of restructing Social Security? Would either of them have any real effect on rising health care? Would either of them actually use the bully pulpit to encourage Americans to consume less and save more? Would either of them actually consider changing our tax structure to tax things we want to discourage, such as pollution, instead of things we do want to encourage like earning a living? Maybe the bottom line to this question is whether either of them actually has the courage to stand up to the special interests and the whining of the FBs that they need a handout? Frankly, I find it hard to believe either has nearly enough courage to do something like that.

XBoxBoy

[XBoxBoy]

Portlock, the problem with this piece is that is an analysis of the promises/claims/proposals of the candidates and as such is not based in reality. George Bush claimed he was going to cut taxes, cut spending and balance the budget. Guess that worked our real well, huh?

Without a serious (cynical?) analysis of what the candidates will actual do, not what they promise in order to get elected, the piece is nothing but fluff.

My question obviously involves a certain amount of guesswork, since it’s always hard to know what the candidates will really do when elected. But I’d rather live with seriously thought out guesses than with campaign promises that have repeated been demonstrated to be nothing but fluff.

For instance, would either of them seriously consider fighting against the type of bailouts that we are currently seeing? Would either of them seriously consider and actually have a chance of restructing Social Security? Would either of them have any real effect on rising health care? Would either of them actually use the bully pulpit to encourage Americans to consume less and save more? Would either of them actually consider changing our tax structure to tax things we want to discourage, such as pollution, instead of things we do want to encourage like earning a living? Maybe the bottom line to this question is whether either of them actually has the courage to stand up to the special interests and the whining of the FBs that they need a handout? Frankly, I find it hard to believe either has nearly enough courage to do something like that.

XBoxBoy

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