Kramer talks about CA

[LA_Renter]

Here is some interesting commentary as to the source of the anxiety on wall street. Doug Noland is very reasonable in most of his commentary he explains the scale of this credit crisis.

“Re: CREDIT BUBBLE BULLETIN
Road to ruin
By Doug Noland

COMMENTARY

The gentlemen at Pimco are, once again, the leading cheerleaders for another round of easier “money.” Calling for the Fed to cut rates to 3.5%, Bill Gross commented Wednesday on Bloomberg television: “The nominal [third quarter] GDP number was 4.7%. Any time you get a nominal GDP growth less than 5% the economy is basically struggling. The U.S. needs at least 5% nominal growth in order to pay its bills on a longer term basis.”

The Credit meltdown is now moving too fast and furious. Importantly, confidence is faltering for the entire Credit insurance industry, including the mortgage insurers and the financial guarantors. This is a devastating blow for the securitization marketplace, already reeling from pricing, liquidity and trust issues. The Credit system has lurched to the edge of meltdown, while the economy hasn’t even as yet succumbed to recession. It’s absolutely scary. Last week I wrote that subprime and the SIVs were “peanuts” in comparison to the CDO market. Well, the CDO marketplace is chump change compared to Credit Default Swaps and other over-the-counter (OTC) Credit derivatives that, by the way, have never been tested in a Credit or economic downturn.

The scale of the Credit “insurance” problem is astounding. According to the Bank of International Settlements, the OTC market for Credit default swaps (CDS) jumped from $4.7 TN at the end of 2004 to $22.6 TN to end 2006. From the International Swaps and Derivatives Association we know that the total notional volume of credit derivatives jumped about 30% during the first half to $45.5 TN. And from the Comptroller of the Currency, total U.S. commercial bank Credit derivative positions ballooned from $492bn to begin 2003 to $11.8 TN as of this past June. It today goes without saying that this explosion of Credit insurance occurred concurrently with the expansion of the riskiest mortgage (and other) lending imaginable. It’s got “counter-party fiasco” written all over it.”

Bugs, I think you are right, this is too big to bail out.

[sdrealtor]

FWIW, I dont disagree with Bugs that it is too big to bail out. However, that doesnt mean they wont try nor does it mean it wont be a mitigating factor that will lessen the carnage.

[sdrealtor]

FWIW, I dont disagree with Bugs that it is too big to bail out. However, that doesnt mean they wont try nor does it mean it wont be a mitigating factor that will lessen the carnage.

[sdrealtor]

FWIW, I dont disagree with Bugs that it is too big to bail out. However, that doesnt mean they wont try nor does it mean it wont be a mitigating factor that will lessen the carnage.

[sdrealtor]

FWIW, I dont disagree with Bugs that it is too big to bail out. However, that doesnt mean they wont try nor does it mean it wont be a mitigating factor that will lessen the carnage.

[sdrealtor]

FWIW, I dont disagree with Bugs that it is too big to bail out. However, that doesnt mean they wont try nor does it mean it wont be a mitigating factor that will lessen the carnage.

[(former)FormerSanDiegan]

Don’t forget, price correction via inflation makes everything else more expensive too. Loss of value is loss of value no matter how you look at it.

Not everything.

Inflation makes debt less expensive.

[(former)FormerSanDiegan]

Don’t forget, price correction via inflation makes everything else more expensive too. Loss of value is loss of value no matter how you look at it.

Not everything.

Inflation makes debt less expensive.

[(former)FormerSanDiegan]

Don’t forget, price correction via inflation makes everything else more expensive too. Loss of value is loss of value no matter how you look at it.

Not everything.

Inflation makes debt less expensive.

[(former)FormerSanDiegan]

Don’t forget, price correction via inflation makes everything else more expensive too. Loss of value is loss of value no matter how you look at it.

Not everything.

Inflation makes debt less expensive.

[(former)FormerSanDiegan]

Don’t forget, price correction via inflation makes everything else more expensive too. Loss of value is loss of value no matter how you look at it.

Not everything.

Inflation makes debt less expensive.

[hipmatt]

We have yet to see what this bail out can do… I agree it will have little effect, especially here in socal.

[hipmatt]

We have yet to see what this bail out can do… I agree it will have little effect, especially here in socal.

[hipmatt]

We have yet to see what this bail out can do… I agree it will have little effect, especially here in socal.

[hipmatt]

We have yet to see what this bail out can do… I agree it will have little effect, especially here in socal.

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