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July 30, 2008 at 8:14 PM #249572July 30, 2008 at 10:07 PM #249400
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Participant[quote=TuVu][quote=AK]IIRC Kaiser doesn’t cover Viagra or other medications for treatment of erectile dysfunction. (Unless your employer pays extra for the sexual dysfunction coverage rider.)
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I stand corrected. I asked my very elderly father about this and he said someone in his “breakfast club” — old, widowed guys meeting at the local Mickey D’s for the 37-cent senior coffee — confirmed it.
[/quote]I think at various times in the past Kaiser may have covered Viagra, or may have been forced to list it in the plan formulary in some states, so we may both be right 🙂
It’s interesting that you mention senior breakfasts at Mickey D’s. A few weeks ago I stopped by the local Golden Arches around 9:15 a.m. … I expected to see the usual crowd of seniors, but much to my surprise the parking lot was full of pickup trucks. I guess construction workers have plenty of time on their hands these days too …
July 30, 2008 at 10:07 PM #249555Participant[quote=TuVu][quote=AK]IIRC Kaiser doesn’t cover Viagra or other medications for treatment of erectile dysfunction. (Unless your employer pays extra for the sexual dysfunction coverage rider.)
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I stand corrected. I asked my very elderly father about this and he said someone in his “breakfast club” — old, widowed guys meeting at the local Mickey D’s for the 37-cent senior coffee — confirmed it.
[/quote]I think at various times in the past Kaiser may have covered Viagra, or may have been forced to list it in the plan formulary in some states, so we may both be right 🙂
It’s interesting that you mention senior breakfasts at Mickey D’s. A few weeks ago I stopped by the local Golden Arches around 9:15 a.m. … I expected to see the usual crowd of seniors, but much to my surprise the parking lot was full of pickup trucks. I guess construction workers have plenty of time on their hands these days too …
July 30, 2008 at 10:07 PM #249563Participant[quote=TuVu][quote=AK]IIRC Kaiser doesn’t cover Viagra or other medications for treatment of erectile dysfunction. (Unless your employer pays extra for the sexual dysfunction coverage rider.)
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I stand corrected. I asked my very elderly father about this and he said someone in his “breakfast club” — old, widowed guys meeting at the local Mickey D’s for the 37-cent senior coffee — confirmed it.
[/quote]I think at various times in the past Kaiser may have covered Viagra, or may have been forced to list it in the plan formulary in some states, so we may both be right 🙂
It’s interesting that you mention senior breakfasts at Mickey D’s. A few weeks ago I stopped by the local Golden Arches around 9:15 a.m. … I expected to see the usual crowd of seniors, but much to my surprise the parking lot was full of pickup trucks. I guess construction workers have plenty of time on their hands these days too …
July 30, 2008 at 10:07 PM #249622Participant[quote=TuVu][quote=AK]IIRC Kaiser doesn’t cover Viagra or other medications for treatment of erectile dysfunction. (Unless your employer pays extra for the sexual dysfunction coverage rider.)
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I stand corrected. I asked my very elderly father about this and he said someone in his “breakfast club” — old, widowed guys meeting at the local Mickey D’s for the 37-cent senior coffee — confirmed it.
[/quote]I think at various times in the past Kaiser may have covered Viagra, or may have been forced to list it in the plan formulary in some states, so we may both be right 🙂
It’s interesting that you mention senior breakfasts at Mickey D’s. A few weeks ago I stopped by the local Golden Arches around 9:15 a.m. … I expected to see the usual crowd of seniors, but much to my surprise the parking lot was full of pickup trucks. I guess construction workers have plenty of time on their hands these days too …
July 30, 2008 at 10:07 PM #249631Participant[quote=TuVu][quote=AK]IIRC Kaiser doesn’t cover Viagra or other medications for treatment of erectile dysfunction. (Unless your employer pays extra for the sexual dysfunction coverage rider.)
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I stand corrected. I asked my very elderly father about this and he said someone in his “breakfast club” — old, widowed guys meeting at the local Mickey D’s for the 37-cent senior coffee — confirmed it.
[/quote]I think at various times in the past Kaiser may have covered Viagra, or may have been forced to list it in the plan formulary in some states, so we may both be right 🙂
It’s interesting that you mention senior breakfasts at Mickey D’s. A few weeks ago I stopped by the local Golden Arches around 9:15 a.m. … I expected to see the usual crowd of seniors, but much to my surprise the parking lot was full of pickup trucks. I guess construction workers have plenty of time on their hands these days too …
July 31, 2008 at 10:49 PM #250165Anonymous
GuestKaiser is a huge organization. I worked there for 9 years. As time passed, the entire corporation became increasingly obsessed with quantity, rather than quality. They are the creators of “stopwatch medicine” and “doing more with less”. To see it in action, visit one of their nightly “urgent appointment clinics”; whenever you force humans, including doctors, to work faster than they should mistakes can happen!
If a person is young and healthy and seldom needs medical attention, Kaiser insurance may be a safe bet; however, if you need them more regularly or for more serious problems, they may only deliver the level of care that you are willing to accept. If you accept less, they will give you less. If you don’t know what you need or are in no condition to act as your own advocate then Kaiser might not be appropriate for you.
July 31, 2008 at 10:49 PM #250322GuestKaiser is a huge organization. I worked there for 9 years. As time passed, the entire corporation became increasingly obsessed with quantity, rather than quality. They are the creators of “stopwatch medicine” and “doing more with less”. To see it in action, visit one of their nightly “urgent appointment clinics”; whenever you force humans, including doctors, to work faster than they should mistakes can happen!
If a person is young and healthy and seldom needs medical attention, Kaiser insurance may be a safe bet; however, if you need them more regularly or for more serious problems, they may only deliver the level of care that you are willing to accept. If you accept less, they will give you less. If you don’t know what you need or are in no condition to act as your own advocate then Kaiser might not be appropriate for you.
July 31, 2008 at 10:49 PM #250328GuestKaiser is a huge organization. I worked there for 9 years. As time passed, the entire corporation became increasingly obsessed with quantity, rather than quality. They are the creators of “stopwatch medicine” and “doing more with less”. To see it in action, visit one of their nightly “urgent appointment clinics”; whenever you force humans, including doctors, to work faster than they should mistakes can happen!
If a person is young and healthy and seldom needs medical attention, Kaiser insurance may be a safe bet; however, if you need them more regularly or for more serious problems, they may only deliver the level of care that you are willing to accept. If you accept less, they will give you less. If you don’t know what you need or are in no condition to act as your own advocate then Kaiser might not be appropriate for you.
July 31, 2008 at 10:49 PM #250387GuestKaiser is a huge organization. I worked there for 9 years. As time passed, the entire corporation became increasingly obsessed with quantity, rather than quality. They are the creators of “stopwatch medicine” and “doing more with less”. To see it in action, visit one of their nightly “urgent appointment clinics”; whenever you force humans, including doctors, to work faster than they should mistakes can happen!
If a person is young and healthy and seldom needs medical attention, Kaiser insurance may be a safe bet; however, if you need them more regularly or for more serious problems, they may only deliver the level of care that you are willing to accept. If you accept less, they will give you less. If you don’t know what you need or are in no condition to act as your own advocate then Kaiser might not be appropriate for you.
July 31, 2008 at 10:49 PM #250394GuestKaiser is a huge organization. I worked there for 9 years. As time passed, the entire corporation became increasingly obsessed with quantity, rather than quality. They are the creators of “stopwatch medicine” and “doing more with less”. To see it in action, visit one of their nightly “urgent appointment clinics”; whenever you force humans, including doctors, to work faster than they should mistakes can happen!
If a person is young and healthy and seldom needs medical attention, Kaiser insurance may be a safe bet; however, if you need them more regularly or for more serious problems, they may only deliver the level of care that you are willing to accept. If you accept less, they will give you less. If you don’t know what you need or are in no condition to act as your own advocate then Kaiser might not be appropriate for you.
August 1, 2008 at 3:18 AM #250257CA renter
ParticipantFLU,
Definitely agree they are more focused on quantity than quality.
After leaving Kaiser, we found a good doctor who was new, so she had a lot of time to spend with her patients. She was so good, that demand for her surged, and it now takes 1-3 months just to get an appointment with her. If we see any of the other doctors in her practice, they are the epitome of low-grade, “counldn’t care less” doctors. They wouldn’t recognize you five minutes after seeing you, they just look right through you. Yes, with the never-ending prescriptions rather than taking the time to find out what’s really going on.
We are still on a quest to find a really good doctor (any recommendations in the Encinitas area?), and we’ve started seeing “alternative health providers” (accupuncture, herbalists, etc.). Not cheap, but at least it seems they are trying to optimize your health and fix the causes of problems rather than masking the symptoms.
August 1, 2008 at 3:18 AM #250411ParticipantFLU,
Definitely agree they are more focused on quantity than quality.
After leaving Kaiser, we found a good doctor who was new, so she had a lot of time to spend with her patients. She was so good, that demand for her surged, and it now takes 1-3 months just to get an appointment with her. If we see any of the other doctors in her practice, they are the epitome of low-grade, “counldn’t care less” doctors. They wouldn’t recognize you five minutes after seeing you, they just look right through you. Yes, with the never-ending prescriptions rather than taking the time to find out what’s really going on.
We are still on a quest to find a really good doctor (any recommendations in the Encinitas area?), and we’ve started seeing “alternative health providers” (accupuncture, herbalists, etc.). Not cheap, but at least it seems they are trying to optimize your health and fix the causes of problems rather than masking the symptoms.
August 1, 2008 at 3:18 AM #250418ParticipantFLU,
Definitely agree they are more focused on quantity than quality.
After leaving Kaiser, we found a good doctor who was new, so she had a lot of time to spend with her patients. She was so good, that demand for her surged, and it now takes 1-3 months just to get an appointment with her. If we see any of the other doctors in her practice, they are the epitome of low-grade, “counldn’t care less” doctors. They wouldn’t recognize you five minutes after seeing you, they just look right through you. Yes, with the never-ending prescriptions rather than taking the time to find out what’s really going on.
We are still on a quest to find a really good doctor (any recommendations in the Encinitas area?), and we’ve started seeing “alternative health providers” (accupuncture, herbalists, etc.). Not cheap, but at least it seems they are trying to optimize your health and fix the causes of problems rather than masking the symptoms.
August 1, 2008 at 3:18 AM #250477ParticipantFLU,
Definitely agree they are more focused on quantity than quality.
After leaving Kaiser, we found a good doctor who was new, so she had a lot of time to spend with her patients. She was so good, that demand for her surged, and it now takes 1-3 months just to get an appointment with her. If we see any of the other doctors in her practice, they are the epitome of low-grade, “counldn’t care less” doctors. They wouldn’t recognize you five minutes after seeing you, they just look right through you. Yes, with the never-ending prescriptions rather than taking the time to find out what’s really going on.
We are still on a quest to find a really good doctor (any recommendations in the Encinitas area?), and we’ve started seeing “alternative health providers” (accupuncture, herbalists, etc.). Not cheap, but at least it seems they are trying to optimize your health and fix the causes of problems rather than masking the symptoms.
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