Investing in Michigan

[briansd1]

[quote=njtosd]
Good heavens. You really do need to spend some time in the midwest. I spent the first 35 years of my life in Detroit/Ann Arbor/Chicago. I currently live 40 miles from NYC and culturally I’ve never lived in such a desert. The grocery store in Ripon, WI (birthplace of the Republican party) is a palace compared to the grocery store down the street. And I love Indiana, especially Indianapolis. (This is a beautiful picture of Monument Circle there: http://www.city-data.com/picfilesc/picc33569.php). Anyone old enough to have seen the movie “Cutters”? (Refers to the stone cutters in southern Indiana) It was filmed in Bloomington, I believe – gorgeous. Also, U of I Bloomington has a fantastic music school – according to Wikipedia, in 1981 it’s opera program was “the first non-professional company to stage an opera at the Metropolitan Opera in New York City.”

You’re kidding yourself if you believe the standard spiel about the midwest – mostly just a result of the people on the coasts patting themselves on the back, IMHO.[/quote]

Ok, I admit it, I’m one of those coastal snobs. But I’m willing to see the light.

I will have to accelerate my visit to Indiana.

My cousin lived in Indianapolis before they moved to Columbus. But I never visited her there in almost 2 decades. That was bad of me.

Her son grew up and stayed behind in Indianapolis. Then he ended up in Bloomington where he converted to Bhuddism because of the Dalai Lama’s Tibetan Center there.

BTW, the monument circle looks great.

[larrylujack]

I lived and graduated from UI, both of my siblings went to law school in the MW, one to IU the other NU and my pop lives in MI along the lake (he gets a ton of snow!). suffice it to say, I do not miss the horrible weather one bit and don’t see much going for MI near term as far as business opportunities. Bottom line is talented folks prefer to live in nicer climates given the choice.
I also seriously doubt there is much going for MI from an investment perspective given the death of manufacturing in the auto industry, and to the extent that there are small company spin offs out of the MI universities, they run lean and mean and simply do not hire nearly the number of people as traditional manufacturers. Being in the Bio and tech space, MI does not stand out, and in fact, if you want to live in a winter wonderland, WI has much more going for it.
But, if you want to buy at a possible bottom, and If your investment horizon is long enough, like 50-100 years, than go for MI. I see more business opportunity on the west and east coasts, and Asia.

[larrylujack]

I lived and graduated from UI, both of my siblings went to law school in the MW, one to IU the other NU and my pop lives in MI along the lake (he gets a ton of snow!). suffice it to say, I do not miss the horrible weather one bit and don’t see much going for MI near term as far as business opportunities. Bottom line is talented folks prefer to live in nicer climates given the choice.
I also seriously doubt there is much going for MI from an investment perspective given the death of manufacturing in the auto industry, and to the extent that there are small company spin offs out of the MI universities, they run lean and mean and simply do not hire nearly the number of people as traditional manufacturers. Being in the Bio and tech space, MI does not stand out, and in fact, if you want to live in a winter wonderland, WI has much more going for it.
But, if you want to buy at a possible bottom, and If your investment horizon is long enough, like 50-100 years, than go for MI. I see more business opportunity on the west and east coasts, and Asia.

[larrylujack]

I lived and graduated from UI, both of my siblings went to law school in the MW, one to IU the other NU and my pop lives in MI along the lake (he gets a ton of snow!). suffice it to say, I do not miss the horrible weather one bit and don’t see much going for MI near term as far as business opportunities. Bottom line is talented folks prefer to live in nicer climates given the choice.
I also seriously doubt there is much going for MI from an investment perspective given the death of manufacturing in the auto industry, and to the extent that there are small company spin offs out of the MI universities, they run lean and mean and simply do not hire nearly the number of people as traditional manufacturers. Being in the Bio and tech space, MI does not stand out, and in fact, if you want to live in a winter wonderland, WI has much more going for it.
But, if you want to buy at a possible bottom, and If your investment horizon is long enough, like 50-100 years, than go for MI. I see more business opportunity on the west and east coasts, and Asia.

[larrylujack]

I lived and graduated from UI, both of my siblings went to law school in the MW, one to IU the other NU and my pop lives in MI along the lake (he gets a ton of snow!). suffice it to say, I do not miss the horrible weather one bit and don’t see much going for MI near term as far as business opportunities. Bottom line is talented folks prefer to live in nicer climates given the choice.
I also seriously doubt there is much going for MI from an investment perspective given the death of manufacturing in the auto industry, and to the extent that there are small company spin offs out of the MI universities, they run lean and mean and simply do not hire nearly the number of people as traditional manufacturers. Being in the Bio and tech space, MI does not stand out, and in fact, if you want to live in a winter wonderland, WI has much more going for it.
But, if you want to buy at a possible bottom, and If your investment horizon is long enough, like 50-100 years, than go for MI. I see more business opportunity on the west and east coasts, and Asia.

[larrylujack]

I lived and graduated from UI, both of my siblings went to law school in the MW, one to IU the other NU and my pop lives in MI along the lake (he gets a ton of snow!). suffice it to say, I do not miss the horrible weather one bit and don’t see much going for MI near term as far as business opportunities. Bottom line is talented folks prefer to live in nicer climates given the choice.
I also seriously doubt there is much going for MI from an investment perspective given the death of manufacturing in the auto industry, and to the extent that there are small company spin offs out of the MI universities, they run lean and mean and simply do not hire nearly the number of people as traditional manufacturers. Being in the Bio and tech space, MI does not stand out, and in fact, if you want to live in a winter wonderland, WI has much more going for it.
But, if you want to buy at a possible bottom, and If your investment horizon is long enough, like 50-100 years, than go for MI. I see more business opportunity on the west and east coasts, and Asia.

[LesBaer45]

[quote=njtosd]According to the South Carolina tobacco board, tobacco farming still is alive and well in the northeast, but doesn’t seem to be as common in the northwest (Greenville) area. This is an important difference, as nicotine is very volatile – if you stand in a tobacco field and breath it in, you can get a significant dose of nicotine. Not something I’d want next door . . .[/quote]

I swear I couldn’t stop laughing for 20 minutes.

Unfortunately most of the tobacco fields have been overrun by cheap slap’em up McMansions to appease all the “outsiders” that insist on moving here. The removal of the quota system has also driven a good bit of farmland to other production. Sure tobacco is still grown around here, but it’s greatly reduced.

Don’t worry, it won’t run out of the field and force you to smoke it or bite you in your ass.

Some people…..

[LesBaer45]

[quote=njtosd]According to the South Carolina tobacco board, tobacco farming still is alive and well in the northeast, but doesn’t seem to be as common in the northwest (Greenville) area. This is an important difference, as nicotine is very volatile – if you stand in a tobacco field and breath it in, you can get a significant dose of nicotine. Not something I’d want next door . . .[/quote]

I swear I couldn’t stop laughing for 20 minutes.

Unfortunately most of the tobacco fields have been overrun by cheap slap’em up McMansions to appease all the “outsiders” that insist on moving here. The removal of the quota system has also driven a good bit of farmland to other production. Sure tobacco is still grown around here, but it’s greatly reduced.

Don’t worry, it won’t run out of the field and force you to smoke it or bite you in your ass.

Some people…..

[LesBaer45]

[quote=njtosd]According to the South Carolina tobacco board, tobacco farming still is alive and well in the northeast, but doesn’t seem to be as common in the northwest (Greenville) area. This is an important difference, as nicotine is very volatile – if you stand in a tobacco field and breath it in, you can get a significant dose of nicotine. Not something I’d want next door . . .[/quote]

I swear I couldn’t stop laughing for 20 minutes.

Unfortunately most of the tobacco fields have been overrun by cheap slap’em up McMansions to appease all the “outsiders” that insist on moving here. The removal of the quota system has also driven a good bit of farmland to other production. Sure tobacco is still grown around here, but it’s greatly reduced.

Don’t worry, it won’t run out of the field and force you to smoke it or bite you in your ass.

Some people…..

[LesBaer45]

[quote=njtosd]According to the South Carolina tobacco board, tobacco farming still is alive and well in the northeast, but doesn’t seem to be as common in the northwest (Greenville) area. This is an important difference, as nicotine is very volatile – if you stand in a tobacco field and breath it in, you can get a significant dose of nicotine. Not something I’d want next door . . .[/quote]

I swear I couldn’t stop laughing for 20 minutes.

Unfortunately most of the tobacco fields have been overrun by cheap slap’em up McMansions to appease all the “outsiders” that insist on moving here. The removal of the quota system has also driven a good bit of farmland to other production. Sure tobacco is still grown around here, but it’s greatly reduced.

Don’t worry, it won’t run out of the field and force you to smoke it or bite you in your ass.

Some people…..

[LesBaer45]

[quote=njtosd]According to the South Carolina tobacco board, tobacco farming still is alive and well in the northeast, but doesn’t seem to be as common in the northwest (Greenville) area. This is an important difference, as nicotine is very volatile – if you stand in a tobacco field and breath it in, you can get a significant dose of nicotine. Not something I’d want next door . . .[/quote]

I swear I couldn’t stop laughing for 20 minutes.

Unfortunately most of the tobacco fields have been overrun by cheap slap’em up McMansions to appease all the “outsiders” that insist on moving here. The removal of the quota system has also driven a good bit of farmland to other production. Sure tobacco is still grown around here, but it’s greatly reduced.

Don’t worry, it won’t run out of the field and force you to smoke it or bite you in your ass.

Some people…..

[LesBaer45]

[quote=briansd1]For those looking for a cheap area to invest in, you might like to check out Clemson/Greenville, SC (the corridor between Atlanta and Charlotte).

I hear that some chip design and high-tech businesses are setting up shop there. The area provides warm climate, low-cost of living, “wholesome” lifestyle, and cheap houses

As a place to raise a family in a “wholesome” environment, it’s not bad.[/quote]

Please no, don’t.

We’re overrun already. Give the south a chance to catch up with all the invaders that are already here complaining about the way we do things. The “culture” has already been destroyed enough as it is, this area is now just as homogenized and bland as Everywhere USA.

Pick on some other region for a while as the “next big thing”, we’re a bit worn out from it all.

Look over there! I see Wyoming and Montana just standing there doing nothing. And isn’t North Dakota one of the states with the lowest un-employment numbers? Everyone move quick!

[LesBaer45]

[quote=briansd1]For those looking for a cheap area to invest in, you might like to check out Clemson/Greenville, SC (the corridor between Atlanta and Charlotte).

I hear that some chip design and high-tech businesses are setting up shop there. The area provides warm climate, low-cost of living, “wholesome” lifestyle, and cheap houses

As a place to raise a family in a “wholesome” environment, it’s not bad.[/quote]

Please no, don’t.

We’re overrun already. Give the south a chance to catch up with all the invaders that are already here complaining about the way we do things. The “culture” has already been destroyed enough as it is, this area is now just as homogenized and bland as Everywhere USA.

Pick on some other region for a while as the “next big thing”, we’re a bit worn out from it all.

Look over there! I see Wyoming and Montana just standing there doing nothing. And isn’t North Dakota one of the states with the lowest un-employment numbers? Everyone move quick!

[LesBaer45]

[quote=briansd1]For those looking for a cheap area to invest in, you might like to check out Clemson/Greenville, SC (the corridor between Atlanta and Charlotte).

I hear that some chip design and high-tech businesses are setting up shop there. The area provides warm climate, low-cost of living, “wholesome” lifestyle, and cheap houses

As a place to raise a family in a “wholesome” environment, it’s not bad.[/quote]

Please no, don’t.

We’re overrun already. Give the south a chance to catch up with all the invaders that are already here complaining about the way we do things. The “culture” has already been destroyed enough as it is, this area is now just as homogenized and bland as Everywhere USA.

Pick on some other region for a while as the “next big thing”, we’re a bit worn out from it all.

Look over there! I see Wyoming and Montana just standing there doing nothing. And isn’t North Dakota one of the states with the lowest un-employment numbers? Everyone move quick!

[LesBaer45]

[quote=briansd1]For those looking for a cheap area to invest in, you might like to check out Clemson/Greenville, SC (the corridor between Atlanta and Charlotte).

I hear that some chip design and high-tech businesses are setting up shop there. The area provides warm climate, low-cost of living, “wholesome” lifestyle, and cheap houses

As a place to raise a family in a “wholesome” environment, it’s not bad.[/quote]

Please no, don’t.

We’re overrun already. Give the south a chance to catch up with all the invaders that are already here complaining about the way we do things. The “culture” has already been destroyed enough as it is, this area is now just as homogenized and bland as Everywhere USA.

Pick on some other region for a while as the “next big thing”, we’re a bit worn out from it all.

Look over there! I see Wyoming and Montana just standing there doing nothing. And isn’t North Dakota one of the states with the lowest un-employment numbers? Everyone move quick!

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