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October 24, 2007 at 12:17 AM #10708October 24, 2007 at 8:33 AM #91310
CarlsbadMtnBiker
Participant1. Most HO policies carry a mortgagee clause requiring them to name the lender as a loss payee on the check. This is required by law and the lender determines how it will endorse and/or disperse funds to ensure their investment is restored.
2. Many carriers offer extended replacement cost coverage by endorsement than extends Coverage A (your primary building coverage) up to 175% with a FEMA trigger for major disaster – I believe that trigger has already been pulled by President Bush. Otherwise the typical extended replacement coverage is 135% of Coverage A.
3. Additionally, by endorsement, many policies offer inflation protection which prorates all your policy limits up each month until your next renewal.
4. For a home destroyed by fire, the Actual Cash Value is determined by market value (RE Appraisal minus the value of the land) or a rebuild contractors estimate less depreciation, which ever is greater.
5. Depreciation (for all losses incl minor repairs) can only be taken on building materials subject to normal repair or replacement during the useful life of the home e.g cannot depreciate the framing, rough plumbing, etc.)
6. You can rebuild elsewhere are still be entitled to Replacement Cost Coverage.
7. Most policies offer coverage for hotel, additional expense for up to 2 weeks for a civil authority action (e.g. evacuation) many times without taking a deductible.
8. Additional Living Expense coverage has been extended on most policies to 24 months and also gives you the option of electing a Fair Rental Value Option (FRV) that allows you to take payment based on the fair rental market value of your home without the need to submit any documentation/receipts. Recommended if you are staying with family or friends vs. when you are incurring a temp rental expense or hotel.
9. Don’t hire the services of a Public Adjuster (PA) who will take 8-15% of your claim dollars doing the same thing your own assigned adjuster does for free. Give your insurance company a chance first and hire a PA when and if you have issues with your insurance company.
10. Stick with local contractors with long standing reputations for the rebuild of your home.
11. Most polices also provide an additional 5% above and beyond the Coverage A (building) for debris removal, 10% for building code upgrade requirements and 5% for trees, shrubs and plants. Ask your insurance company to provide all of these limits in writing with proration for inflation (if applicable.) Also request a certified copy of your policy on day 1. These requests alone will serve to convey the message that you intend to claim all benefits available to you.
For Example, a policy with $500K in Coverage A would actually have $875K after the applying the extented replacement cost coverage now triggered by FEMA. Additional to this would be another $43,750.00 for debris removal, $87,500.00 for code upgrades, and $43,750 for trees, shrubs and plants.
Finally, most policies give a straight 10% for appurtenant structures (detached garages, sheds, barns, fencing, walls, etc.) In this example, it would total $50K.
Total available coverage excluding personal property and additional living expense = $1,100,000.00
Stay safe out there !! ….
-CMB
October 24, 2007 at 8:33 AM #91333Participant1. Most HO policies carry a mortgagee clause requiring them to name the lender as a loss payee on the check. This is required by law and the lender determines how it will endorse and/or disperse funds to ensure their investment is restored.
2. Many carriers offer extended replacement cost coverage by endorsement than extends Coverage A (your primary building coverage) up to 175% with a FEMA trigger for major disaster – I believe that trigger has already been pulled by President Bush. Otherwise the typical extended replacement coverage is 135% of Coverage A.
3. Additionally, by endorsement, many policies offer inflation protection which prorates all your policy limits up each month until your next renewal.
4. For a home destroyed by fire, the Actual Cash Value is determined by market value (RE Appraisal minus the value of the land) or a rebuild contractors estimate less depreciation, which ever is greater.
5. Depreciation (for all losses incl minor repairs) can only be taken on building materials subject to normal repair or replacement during the useful life of the home e.g cannot depreciate the framing, rough plumbing, etc.)
6. You can rebuild elsewhere are still be entitled to Replacement Cost Coverage.
7. Most policies offer coverage for hotel, additional expense for up to 2 weeks for a civil authority action (e.g. evacuation) many times without taking a deductible.
8. Additional Living Expense coverage has been extended on most policies to 24 months and also gives you the option of electing a Fair Rental Value Option (FRV) that allows you to take payment based on the fair rental market value of your home without the need to submit any documentation/receipts. Recommended if you are staying with family or friends vs. when you are incurring a temp rental expense or hotel.
9. Don’t hire the services of a Public Adjuster (PA) who will take 8-15% of your claim dollars doing the same thing your own assigned adjuster does for free. Give your insurance company a chance first and hire a PA when and if you have issues with your insurance company.
10. Stick with local contractors with long standing reputations for the rebuild of your home.
11. Most polices also provide an additional 5% above and beyond the Coverage A (building) for debris removal, 10% for building code upgrade requirements and 5% for trees, shrubs and plants. Ask your insurance company to provide all of these limits in writing with proration for inflation (if applicable.) Also request a certified copy of your policy on day 1. These requests alone will serve to convey the message that you intend to claim all benefits available to you.
For Example, a policy with $500K in Coverage A would actually have $875K after the applying the extented replacement cost coverage now triggered by FEMA. Additional to this would be another $43,750.00 for debris removal, $87,500.00 for code upgrades, and $43,750 for trees, shrubs and plants.
Finally, most policies give a straight 10% for appurtenant structures (detached garages, sheds, barns, fencing, walls, etc.) In this example, it would total $50K.
Total available coverage excluding personal property and additional living expense = $1,100,000.00
Stay safe out there !! ….
-CMB
October 24, 2007 at 8:33 AM #91344Participant1. Most HO policies carry a mortgagee clause requiring them to name the lender as a loss payee on the check. This is required by law and the lender determines how it will endorse and/or disperse funds to ensure their investment is restored.
2. Many carriers offer extended replacement cost coverage by endorsement than extends Coverage A (your primary building coverage) up to 175% with a FEMA trigger for major disaster – I believe that trigger has already been pulled by President Bush. Otherwise the typical extended replacement coverage is 135% of Coverage A.
3. Additionally, by endorsement, many policies offer inflation protection which prorates all your policy limits up each month until your next renewal.
4. For a home destroyed by fire, the Actual Cash Value is determined by market value (RE Appraisal minus the value of the land) or a rebuild contractors estimate less depreciation, which ever is greater.
5. Depreciation (for all losses incl minor repairs) can only be taken on building materials subject to normal repair or replacement during the useful life of the home e.g cannot depreciate the framing, rough plumbing, etc.)
6. You can rebuild elsewhere are still be entitled to Replacement Cost Coverage.
7. Most policies offer coverage for hotel, additional expense for up to 2 weeks for a civil authority action (e.g. evacuation) many times without taking a deductible.
8. Additional Living Expense coverage has been extended on most policies to 24 months and also gives you the option of electing a Fair Rental Value Option (FRV) that allows you to take payment based on the fair rental market value of your home without the need to submit any documentation/receipts. Recommended if you are staying with family or friends vs. when you are incurring a temp rental expense or hotel.
9. Don’t hire the services of a Public Adjuster (PA) who will take 8-15% of your claim dollars doing the same thing your own assigned adjuster does for free. Give your insurance company a chance first and hire a PA when and if you have issues with your insurance company.
10. Stick with local contractors with long standing reputations for the rebuild of your home.
11. Most polices also provide an additional 5% above and beyond the Coverage A (building) for debris removal, 10% for building code upgrade requirements and 5% for trees, shrubs and plants. Ask your insurance company to provide all of these limits in writing with proration for inflation (if applicable.) Also request a certified copy of your policy on day 1. These requests alone will serve to convey the message that you intend to claim all benefits available to you.
For Example, a policy with $500K in Coverage A would actually have $875K after the applying the extented replacement cost coverage now triggered by FEMA. Additional to this would be another $43,750.00 for debris removal, $87,500.00 for code upgrades, and $43,750 for trees, shrubs and plants.
Finally, most policies give a straight 10% for appurtenant structures (detached garages, sheds, barns, fencing, walls, etc.) In this example, it would total $50K.
Total available coverage excluding personal property and additional living expense = $1,100,000.00
Stay safe out there !! ….
-CMB
October 24, 2007 at 8:51 AM #91322patientlywaiting
Participant1. Most HO policies carry a mortgagee clause requiring them to name the lender as a loss payee on the check. This is required by law and the lender determines how it will endorse and/or disperse funds to ensure their investment is restored.
Are you sure it's required by law and not by contract between the parties? If the law requires it, wouldn't ALL policies have such clause?
October 24, 2007 at 8:51 AM #91345Participant1. Most HO policies carry a mortgagee clause requiring them to name the lender as a loss payee on the check. This is required by law and the lender determines how it will endorse and/or disperse funds to ensure their investment is restored.
Are you sure it's required by law and not by contract between the parties? If the law requires it, wouldn't ALL policies have such clause?
October 24, 2007 at 8:51 AM #91358Participant1. Most HO policies carry a mortgagee clause requiring them to name the lender as a loss payee on the check. This is required by law and the lender determines how it will endorse and/or disperse funds to ensure their investment is restored.
Are you sure it's required by law and not by contract between the parties? If the law requires it, wouldn't ALL policies have such clause?
October 24, 2007 at 9:14 AM #91328Participant“Are you sure it’s required by law and not by contract between the parties? If the law requires it, wouldn’t all policies have such clause?”
I believe all policies do have a similar clause. There is case law in CA on this dealing with basic ownership interest. The lenders sued to protect their interest. No time to research but feel free.
October 24, 2007 at 9:14 AM #91351Participant“Are you sure it’s required by law and not by contract between the parties? If the law requires it, wouldn’t all policies have such clause?”
I believe all policies do have a similar clause. There is case law in CA on this dealing with basic ownership interest. The lenders sued to protect their interest. No time to research but feel free.
October 24, 2007 at 9:14 AM #91362Participant“Are you sure it’s required by law and not by contract between the parties? If the law requires it, wouldn’t all policies have such clause?”
I believe all policies do have a similar clause. There is case law in CA on this dealing with basic ownership interest. The lenders sued to protect their interest. No time to research but feel free.
October 24, 2007 at 11:55 AM #91381Bubblesitter
ParticipantDoes anybody know any good Consumer-focused insurance web sites where fire victims should do?
Insurance commissioner has some good info.
I would be most worried about the retired widow who just lost her paid-off house. The insurance claims estimator/adjuster will end up ripping these folks off with low-ball offers.
Does anybody know of any plans by any of consumer-friendly organization to inform these people?
The insurance companies number 1 goal now is to minimize payouts. They have very honed techniques to do this. See top of this thread for link on some of these techniques. Sort of disgusting. Any you folks in the insurance industry that can comment anonymously? Do the right thing!
Bubblesitter
October 24, 2007 at 11:55 AM #91406ParticipantDoes anybody know any good Consumer-focused insurance web sites where fire victims should do?
Insurance commissioner has some good info.
I would be most worried about the retired widow who just lost her paid-off house. The insurance claims estimator/adjuster will end up ripping these folks off with low-ball offers.
Does anybody know of any plans by any of consumer-friendly organization to inform these people?
The insurance companies number 1 goal now is to minimize payouts. They have very honed techniques to do this. See top of this thread for link on some of these techniques. Sort of disgusting. Any you folks in the insurance industry that can comment anonymously? Do the right thing!
Bubblesitter
October 24, 2007 at 11:55 AM #91418ParticipantDoes anybody know any good Consumer-focused insurance web sites where fire victims should do?
Insurance commissioner has some good info.
I would be most worried about the retired widow who just lost her paid-off house. The insurance claims estimator/adjuster will end up ripping these folks off with low-ball offers.
Does anybody know of any plans by any of consumer-friendly organization to inform these people?
The insurance companies number 1 goal now is to minimize payouts. They have very honed techniques to do this. See top of this thread for link on some of these techniques. Sort of disgusting. Any you folks in the insurance industry that can comment anonymously? Do the right thing!
Bubblesitter
October 24, 2007 at 1:20 PM #91424Raybyrnes
ParticipantYou are totally off on your assumptions about the insurance industry. The primary job of an adjuster is to close to file. They do not want to spend hours hemming and hawing over minor bullshit. Show them a reciept and they are going to pay. Use reasonable estimates and they are going to pay.
Start claiming that as a landscaper you have 10 Armani suits in your closet and they are going to red flag and say show me some reciepts or credit cards. The same criteria holds true for your taxes. You want want the write off, go ahead and take it. We ask for recipts, you better have them or yuo face penalties.The problesm that many older folks will run into is that they have old policies that do not have an inflation adjustment on them. This means that they become underinsured over time. It also means that they were not paying sufficient premiums for the coverage in this type of incident.
I would argue that this is one of the very reasons I choose to buy everything on credit card. I have a paper trail for all of my purchases. Additionally a digital camera or a camcorder is can be used to take pictures of your place. It take s less than an hour to do this and you can put this on a memory chip and hand it to your agent. Again insurance companies just want to keep the file moving forward.
October 24, 2007 at 1:20 PM #91446ParticipantYou are totally off on your assumptions about the insurance industry. The primary job of an adjuster is to close to file. They do not want to spend hours hemming and hawing over minor bullshit. Show them a reciept and they are going to pay. Use reasonable estimates and they are going to pay.
Start claiming that as a landscaper you have 10 Armani suits in your closet and they are going to red flag and say show me some reciepts or credit cards. The same criteria holds true for your taxes. You want want the write off, go ahead and take it. We ask for recipts, you better have them or yuo face penalties.The problesm that many older folks will run into is that they have old policies that do not have an inflation adjustment on them. This means that they become underinsured over time. It also means that they were not paying sufficient premiums for the coverage in this type of incident.
I would argue that this is one of the very reasons I choose to buy everything on credit card. I have a paper trail for all of my purchases. Additionally a digital camera or a camcorder is can be used to take pictures of your place. It take s less than an hour to do this and you can put this on a memory chip and hand it to your agent. Again insurance companies just want to keep the file moving forward.
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