Inappropriate Marketing Strategy by Realtor

[sdrealtor]

Unfortunately its probably some young inexperienced agent who bought some marketing program from some guru who told him to do this.

[Aecetia]

[quote=svelte][quote=ocrenter]

Most of the things you mentioned are all positive, or at least part of normal living.
[/quote]

Well I don’t know about you but I don’t think getting old is a positive! lol

They are all businesses prepared to offer a service who are seeking people needing that service. I see no problem with that, even if it is for an event that people aren’t happy about.[/quote]

I keep getting advertising for cremation. I just keep wondering if they know something I do not!

[eavesdropper]

[quote=Aecetia][quote=svelte][quote=ocrenter]

Most of the things you mentioned are all positive, or at least part of normal living.
[/quote]

Well I don’t know about you but I don’t think getting old is a positive! lol

They are all businesses prepared to offer a service who are seeking people needing that service. I see no problem with that, even if it is for an event that people aren’t happy about.[/quote]

I keep getting advertising for cremation. I just keep wondering if they know something I do not![/quote]

Damn, Aecetia, that was funny!! And I needed a laugh.

[ocrenter]

This Flock guy certainly seem inexperienced. got his real estate license in Sept of ’09.

He is the CEO of the Flock Group, from the website, sounds like it is a group of 1. Apparently he is also a “CDPE” aka certified distress property expert??? Looking that up, looks like we got a loser who fell for one of those scam classes that promise to “certify” you after a 2 day class for which he probably paid a pretty penny for.

http://www.flockgroup.com/Brian_Flock/page_2125919.html

http://www.cdpe.com/home

http://activerain.com/blogsview/402701/certified-foreclosures-short-sale-specialist-not-

I actually feel pretty bad for this guy, afterall, this Flock guy actually paid good money to learn his craft from this douchebag:

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[urbanrealtor]

CDPE is a designation that is generally considered reputable (though not NAR or CAR affiliated).

I think its kind of worthless but lots of folks swear by those classes.

As far as the original thing of vulture-marketing:

I find this distasteful and would not do it.
That being said, when my mom died, we used a caterer because they left their business cards at the crematory.

As a consumer guided on occasion by said vulture marketing, there is something to be said for not having to make a lot of decisions or do a lot of research during times of great emotional stress.

As a business owner, there is something to be said for being in the right place at the right time.

Still marketing based on divorce just seems icky as shit.

Not sure you can make a DRE complaint because he read the public records but damn…yeah…gross.

On a somewhat related note, I have a client who owns property and is conservator of his deceased mother’s estate. He lives in China. His mail in the US comes to me. When his mother passed, I got like 30 fake greeting cards from agents offering “help” to deal with the house owned by the estate.

Good times.

[kcal09]

His approach is disgusting and inappropriate because quit claim deeds are not only being issued for divorces but for many other reasons as well. I would never trust a realtor who uses this kind of approach as it shows that he is inexperienced, not caring and desperate.

[Aecetia]

[quote=eavesdropper][quote=Aecetia][quote=svelte][quote=ocrenter]

Most of the things you mentioned are all positive, or at least part of normal living.
[/quote]

Well I don’t know about you but I don’t think getting old is a positive! lol

They are all businesses prepared to offer a service who are seeking people needing that service. I see no problem with that, even if it is for an event that people aren’t happy about.[/quote]

I keep getting advertising for cremation. I just keep wondering if they know something I do not![/quote]

Damn, Aecetia, that was funny!! And I needed a laugh.[/quote]
Thanks, eaves. What can I say. I used to get irritated when the AARP sent me stuff when I was in my 40’s. Now its the cremation letters. What’s next? Is the grim reaper going to tap me on the shoulder? I am going to fight kicking and screaming before I go.

[urbanrealtor]

[quote=kcal09]His approach is disgusting and inappropriate because quit claim deeds are not only being issued for divorces but for many other reasons as well. I would never trust a realtor who uses this kind of approach as it shows that he is inexperienced, not caring and desperate.[/quote]
I don’t think I would have those specific criticisms but I would agree that he clearly is not working with good information. That alone would give me pause.

[scaredyclassic]

If you find yourself getting offended a lot, that’s bad.

Today I drove by this guy with a hose. He accidentally I think sprayed thru my window and hit me Ikn the face. I stopped in shock. He was so apologetic. I shrugged it off … “randomness of the universe” I replied to the hosing. He was so happy I wasn’t all bent out of shape.

You know, very little is actually worth getting worked up about.

It’s just a letter. Some water. A nasty comment. A snub. A weird remark. A brief assault.

Let it all go

[svelte]

lol, cremation notices!! 🙂

And maybe it’s just me, but it seems a lil sleazy to me to come online anonymously to slam somebody and threaten to report them. Seems to me the upstanding thing to do would be to contact them directly, let them know who you are, and tell them you don’t appreciate their tactics.

[sunny88]

[quote=svelte]lol, cremation notices!! 🙂

And maybe it’s just me, but it seems a lil sleazy to me to come online anonymously to slam somebody and threaten to report them. Seems to me the upstanding thing to do would be to contact them directly, let them know who you are, and tell them you don’t appreciate their tactics.[/quote]

I already did that using our names but have not received a response. I disagree that coming out is sleazy as he should know who we are if he reads this.

[Aecetia]

I think it is desperation. I sold a house a couple of year’s ago and many realtors called even though we specified no agents. It was a FSBO. Anyway, it sold fast (one week). The buyer knew what they wanted and was qualified with a loan from the credit union. We then pulled the ad, but I received calls from agents for over a year. Not every day, but steady, about once a month. This was in early 2009. I am thinking things have gotten worse and this fellow is using a targeted group to market to. I think his letter and approach are tacky, but I am thinking there are some hungry realtors out there.

[urbanrealtor]

[quote=Aecetia]I think it is desperation. I sold a house a couple of year’s ago and many realtors called even though we specified no agents. It was a FSBO. Anyway, it sold fast (one week). The buyer knew what they wanted and was qualified with a loan from the credit union. We then pulled the ad, but I received calls from agents for over a year. Not every day, but steady, about once a month. This was in early 2009. I am thinking things have gotten worse and this fellow is using a targeted group to market to. I think his letter and approach are tacky, but I am thinking there are some hungry realtors out there.[/quote]

You are right that there are some hungry Realtors out there.
I know because I am one.
My business cash flows positive and does well but anyone who is not super-motivated these days generally isn’t doing much business.

That being said, it feels good to not be desperate.

As far as not using Realtors:

On the seller side:
Avoiding paying commissions is a good idea if you can swing it.
HOWEVER, if you sold in a week as a FSBO, you probably did not get full market value.
That’s just the reality of today’s market.
But I put my money where my mouth is.
If you want, we will get a past appraisal done by Todd Lackner (whose integrity is pretty much beyond reproach) and if I am right, you pay for it and if I am wrong I will pay for it.
I am betting you sold at a discount.
PM me.

On the buyer side:
You are well within your rights to not pay a buyer-side commission to an agent.
You are not within your rights to deny a buyer the right to whatever consultation or representation they want.

If agents are bugging you though, just get their info and report them to the do-not-call authorities.

A few hundred bucks will be a great disincentive.

Better yet, get their info and offer to not report them for $300 each.

[CDMA ENG]

I’ll say it.

He is a F$@King jerk.

Think about the shit this asshole has caused.

Things are bad out there for a lot of ppl (financial stress, whatever) and I am sure he has placed one of these letters into the mailbox of a couple who was having problems. Then one spouse starts thinking the other one has seen a lawyer and before you know it… Self-fulfilling prophecy…

Hope a car runs over his foot.

CE

[Aecetia]

[quote=urbanrealtor][quote=Aecetia]I think it is desperation. I sold a house a couple of year’s ago and many realtors called even though we specified no agents. It was a FSBO. Anyway, it sold fast (one week). The buyer knew what they wanted and was qualified with a loan from the credit union. We then pulled the ad, but I received calls from agents for over a year. Not every day, but steady, about once a month. This was in early 2009. I am thinking things have gotten worse and this fellow is using a targeted group to market to. I think his letter and approach are tacky, but I am thinking there are some hungry realtors out there.[/quote]

You are right that there are some hungry Realtors out there.
I know because I am one.
My business cash flows positive and does well but anyone who is not super-motivated these days generally isn’t doing much business.

That being said, it feels good to not be desperate.

As far as not using Realtors:

On the seller side:
Avoiding paying commissions is a good idea if you can swing it.
HOWEVER, if you sold in a week as a FSBO, you probably did not get full market value.
That’s just the reality of today’s market.
But I put my money where my mouth is.
If you want, we will get a past appraisal done by Todd Lackner (whose integrity is pretty much beyond reproach) and if I am right, you pay for it and if I am wrong I will pay for it.
I am betting you sold at a discount.
PM me.

On the buyer side:
You are well within your rights to not pay a buyer-side commission to an agent.
You are not within your rights to deny a buyer the right to whatever consultation or representation they want.

If agents are bugging you though, just get their info and report them to the do-not-call authorities.

A few hundred bucks will be a great disincentive.

Better yet, get their info and offer to not report them for $300 each.[/quote]
I PM’d you. No need to get an appraisal. The past is the past.

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