If you could only smack the media in the face!!

[Effective Demand]

I must not understand what all the hub-bub (yes, I said hub-bub) is about the article in the original post, it is quite simply a rehash and summary of the beige book comments. It doesn’t really try to add anything just summarize what the beige book release says.

Now you may disagree with the beige book but that isn’t the AP’s fault.

http://www.federalreserve.gov/FOMC/Beigebook/2009/20090909/default.htm

The article is just a complete rehash of the above.

[patientrenter]

[quote=Chris Scoreboard Johnston]…
Also the PPT’s manipulation with SP 500 futures to keep this stock rally going has resulted in this market being more over valued here in many ways than it was when the Dow was at 14k. They are doing it now to help them spin the story that the stimulus plan has worked and the stock market rally is proof of that.

Barry is using the PPT in ways it was not used in the past….[/quote]

I tend to mock conspiracy theorists, but back in March, I caught a whiff of something odd. Everyone was very worried about the impact of the plunging markets on the solvency of many major financial institutions, and lots of people were calculating exactly how close to the precipice various companies were, and how it was changing day by day. I was involved in those calculations, and could see the level of concern.

Then, all of a sudden, those calculations all stopped, and the level of concern dropped. And since then, we’ve had nothing but good news from the markets. Note the order. It’s almost as if the key players in govt told the key players in the financial community that they would do “whatever it took” to get the markets back up again, starting immediately, and they followed through.

[patientrenter]

[quote=Chris Scoreboard Johnston]…
Also the PPT’s manipulation with SP 500 futures to keep this stock rally going has resulted in this market being more over valued here in many ways than it was when the Dow was at 14k. They are doing it now to help them spin the story that the stimulus plan has worked and the stock market rally is proof of that.

Barry is using the PPT in ways it was not used in the past….[/quote]

I tend to mock conspiracy theorists, but back in March, I caught a whiff of something odd. Everyone was very worried about the impact of the plunging markets on the solvency of many major financial institutions, and lots of people were calculating exactly how close to the precipice various companies were, and how it was changing day by day. I was involved in those calculations, and could see the level of concern.

Then, all of a sudden, those calculations all stopped, and the level of concern dropped. And since then, we’ve had nothing but good news from the markets. Note the order. It’s almost as if the key players in govt told the key players in the financial community that they would do “whatever it took” to get the markets back up again, starting immediately, and they followed through.

[patientrenter]

[quote=Chris Scoreboard Johnston]…
Also the PPT’s manipulation with SP 500 futures to keep this stock rally going has resulted in this market being more over valued here in many ways than it was when the Dow was at 14k. They are doing it now to help them spin the story that the stimulus plan has worked and the stock market rally is proof of that.

Barry is using the PPT in ways it was not used in the past….[/quote]

I tend to mock conspiracy theorists, but back in March, I caught a whiff of something odd. Everyone was very worried about the impact of the plunging markets on the solvency of many major financial institutions, and lots of people were calculating exactly how close to the precipice various companies were, and how it was changing day by day. I was involved in those calculations, and could see the level of concern.

Then, all of a sudden, those calculations all stopped, and the level of concern dropped. And since then, we’ve had nothing but good news from the markets. Note the order. It’s almost as if the key players in govt told the key players in the financial community that they would do “whatever it took” to get the markets back up again, starting immediately, and they followed through.

[patientrenter]

[quote=Chris Scoreboard Johnston]…
Also the PPT’s manipulation with SP 500 futures to keep this stock rally going has resulted in this market being more over valued here in many ways than it was when the Dow was at 14k. They are doing it now to help them spin the story that the stimulus plan has worked and the stock market rally is proof of that.

Barry is using the PPT in ways it was not used in the past….[/quote]

I tend to mock conspiracy theorists, but back in March, I caught a whiff of something odd. Everyone was very worried about the impact of the plunging markets on the solvency of many major financial institutions, and lots of people were calculating exactly how close to the precipice various companies were, and how it was changing day by day. I was involved in those calculations, and could see the level of concern.

Then, all of a sudden, those calculations all stopped, and the level of concern dropped. And since then, we’ve had nothing but good news from the markets. Note the order. It’s almost as if the key players in govt told the key players in the financial community that they would do “whatever it took” to get the markets back up again, starting immediately, and they followed through.

[patientrenter]

[quote=Chris Scoreboard Johnston]…
Also the PPT’s manipulation with SP 500 futures to keep this stock rally going has resulted in this market being more over valued here in many ways than it was when the Dow was at 14k. They are doing it now to help them spin the story that the stimulus plan has worked and the stock market rally is proof of that.

Barry is using the PPT in ways it was not used in the past….[/quote]

I tend to mock conspiracy theorists, but back in March, I caught a whiff of something odd. Everyone was very worried about the impact of the plunging markets on the solvency of many major financial institutions, and lots of people were calculating exactly how close to the precipice various companies were, and how it was changing day by day. I was involved in those calculations, and could see the level of concern.

Then, all of a sudden, those calculations all stopped, and the level of concern dropped. And since then, we’ve had nothing but good news from the markets. Note the order. It’s almost as if the key players in govt told the key players in the financial community that they would do “whatever it took” to get the markets back up again, starting immediately, and they followed through.

[socrattt]

[quote=Chris Scoreboard Johnston]I am not sure who mentioned the next bubble in this thread but the next bubble is Gold. Here is why I think that.

If you look at the COT report, all of the recent buying is being done by small speculators, with the Commercials massively short this market. Commercials being hedgers do fight trends at times so this is not that unusual. However, Large Speculators who are the trend drivers have reached their max long position and the breakout has not occurred yet. This usually leads to major declines in price. This also means any breakout in price will have to be maintained by small people like you and me, buying small amounts against large players selling large amounts. Rumors of large buying by China etc are just that. If they were doing that it would show in the COT report for the cash gold market. Another bullshit story from the people selling metals investments.

Also the PPT’s manipulation with SP 500 futures to keep this stock rally going has resulted in this market being more over valued here in many ways than it was when the Dow was at 14k. They are doing it now to help them spin the story that the stimulus plan has worked and the stock market rally is proof of that.

Barry is using the PPT in ways it was not used in the past. They normally just showed up when plunges occurred to attempt to stablize things. Having been aware of the PPT for some time, I am usually able to tell when they show up and have posted some of those appearances on my blog. This has been a little tougher because they are so active it is not quite as easy to tell any more.

I would sure love to see the publics reaction if it were revealed that alot of the derivative losses with banks were PPT buy trades placed in their accounts to try and stop the stock market selloff last year. Goldman Sacks and Merril are two places rumored to be where the PPT does their trading. Is it any wonder B of A paid 50B for a company going out of business in a deal put together by the government. It is no wonder they will not reveal how the money has been spent.

He is using it to further policy, which is incredible. However, if we happen to hit a point where the funds start to sell, probably a 20 day low, even the PPT will not be able to stop it. They have been able to stop a 20 day low so far, but odds are it will happen eventually.

I am a trader not a long term holder of things. But I would have my stops close in the Metals here, that way you can keep riding this if it goes, but you will be out if a large decline occurs here which does seem likely. Those who have held this for so long have a great trade on their hands, but don’t get too greedy.

Seasonals call for a top in October, so by then it would be imperative to have close stops or be out.

I heard a bank analyst who did a report on the financial health of that sector, Chris something or another I can’t remember his last name. He rated 2600 out of the 8500 banks basically insolvent, and only gave 3000 an A in the clear rating. If that is anywhere near accurate, we still have some problems out there about to surface.[/quote]

Chris, I fell asleep after the third paragraph. I think your assumptions sounded a bit repetitive. You assumptions are clearly that as most analyst are about as uneducated as the senior VP at Wells Fargo :). It is crazy to think that brain dead folks like Cheronda Guyton run our financial institutions.

The idea that we follow patterns and charts is asinine. This idea was thrown out the window quite some time ago. The thought is we have some potential issues with inflation (I think that is quite obvious), along with some other potential issues with the Dollar remaining the reserve currency. Fundamentals will eventually overtake the manipulation.

Do you think a few months of pain is all we needed to fix one of the largest financial crisis that has ever happened? I highly doubt it. We have definitely pulled out all the tricks in the books and that has bought some time, but if you think the idea of owning physical silver and gold is a bad investment you are sorely mistaken.

[socrattt]

[quote=Chris Scoreboard Johnston]I am not sure who mentioned the next bubble in this thread but the next bubble is Gold. Here is why I think that.

If you look at the COT report, all of the recent buying is being done by small speculators, with the Commercials massively short this market. Commercials being hedgers do fight trends at times so this is not that unusual. However, Large Speculators who are the trend drivers have reached their max long position and the breakout has not occurred yet. This usually leads to major declines in price. This also means any breakout in price will have to be maintained by small people like you and me, buying small amounts against large players selling large amounts. Rumors of large buying by China etc are just that. If they were doing that it would show in the COT report for the cash gold market. Another bullshit story from the people selling metals investments.

Also the PPT’s manipulation with SP 500 futures to keep this stock rally going has resulted in this market being more over valued here in many ways than it was when the Dow was at 14k. They are doing it now to help them spin the story that the stimulus plan has worked and the stock market rally is proof of that.

Barry is using the PPT in ways it was not used in the past. They normally just showed up when plunges occurred to attempt to stablize things. Having been aware of the PPT for some time, I am usually able to tell when they show up and have posted some of those appearances on my blog. This has been a little tougher because they are so active it is not quite as easy to tell any more.

I would sure love to see the publics reaction if it were revealed that alot of the derivative losses with banks were PPT buy trades placed in their accounts to try and stop the stock market selloff last year. Goldman Sacks and Merril are two places rumored to be where the PPT does their trading. Is it any wonder B of A paid 50B for a company going out of business in a deal put together by the government. It is no wonder they will not reveal how the money has been spent.

He is using it to further policy, which is incredible. However, if we happen to hit a point where the funds start to sell, probably a 20 day low, even the PPT will not be able to stop it. They have been able to stop a 20 day low so far, but odds are it will happen eventually.

I am a trader not a long term holder of things. But I would have my stops close in the Metals here, that way you can keep riding this if it goes, but you will be out if a large decline occurs here which does seem likely. Those who have held this for so long have a great trade on their hands, but don’t get too greedy.

Seasonals call for a top in October, so by then it would be imperative to have close stops or be out.

I heard a bank analyst who did a report on the financial health of that sector, Chris something or another I can’t remember his last name. He rated 2600 out of the 8500 banks basically insolvent, and only gave 3000 an A in the clear rating. If that is anywhere near accurate, we still have some problems out there about to surface.[/quote]

Chris, I fell asleep after the third paragraph. I think your assumptions sounded a bit repetitive. You assumptions are clearly that as most analyst are about as uneducated as the senior VP at Wells Fargo :). It is crazy to think that brain dead folks like Cheronda Guyton run our financial institutions.

The idea that we follow patterns and charts is asinine. This idea was thrown out the window quite some time ago. The thought is we have some potential issues with inflation (I think that is quite obvious), along with some other potential issues with the Dollar remaining the reserve currency. Fundamentals will eventually overtake the manipulation.

Do you think a few months of pain is all we needed to fix one of the largest financial crisis that has ever happened? I highly doubt it. We have definitely pulled out all the tricks in the books and that has bought some time, but if you think the idea of owning physical silver and gold is a bad investment you are sorely mistaken.

[socrattt]

[quote=Chris Scoreboard Johnston]I am not sure who mentioned the next bubble in this thread but the next bubble is Gold. Here is why I think that.

If you look at the COT report, all of the recent buying is being done by small speculators, with the Commercials massively short this market. Commercials being hedgers do fight trends at times so this is not that unusual. However, Large Speculators who are the trend drivers have reached their max long position and the breakout has not occurred yet. This usually leads to major declines in price. This also means any breakout in price will have to be maintained by small people like you and me, buying small amounts against large players selling large amounts. Rumors of large buying by China etc are just that. If they were doing that it would show in the COT report for the cash gold market. Another bullshit story from the people selling metals investments.

Also the PPT’s manipulation with SP 500 futures to keep this stock rally going has resulted in this market being more over valued here in many ways than it was when the Dow was at 14k. They are doing it now to help them spin the story that the stimulus plan has worked and the stock market rally is proof of that.

Barry is using the PPT in ways it was not used in the past. They normally just showed up when plunges occurred to attempt to stablize things. Having been aware of the PPT for some time, I am usually able to tell when they show up and have posted some of those appearances on my blog. This has been a little tougher because they are so active it is not quite as easy to tell any more.

I would sure love to see the publics reaction if it were revealed that alot of the derivative losses with banks were PPT buy trades placed in their accounts to try and stop the stock market selloff last year. Goldman Sacks and Merril are two places rumored to be where the PPT does their trading. Is it any wonder B of A paid 50B for a company going out of business in a deal put together by the government. It is no wonder they will not reveal how the money has been spent.

He is using it to further policy, which is incredible. However, if we happen to hit a point where the funds start to sell, probably a 20 day low, even the PPT will not be able to stop it. They have been able to stop a 20 day low so far, but odds are it will happen eventually.

I am a trader not a long term holder of things. But I would have my stops close in the Metals here, that way you can keep riding this if it goes, but you will be out if a large decline occurs here which does seem likely. Those who have held this for so long have a great trade on their hands, but don’t get too greedy.

Seasonals call for a top in October, so by then it would be imperative to have close stops or be out.

I heard a bank analyst who did a report on the financial health of that sector, Chris something or another I can’t remember his last name. He rated 2600 out of the 8500 banks basically insolvent, and only gave 3000 an A in the clear rating. If that is anywhere near accurate, we still have some problems out there about to surface.[/quote]

Chris, I fell asleep after the third paragraph. I think your assumptions sounded a bit repetitive. You assumptions are clearly that as most analyst are about as uneducated as the senior VP at Wells Fargo :). It is crazy to think that brain dead folks like Cheronda Guyton run our financial institutions.

The idea that we follow patterns and charts is asinine. This idea was thrown out the window quite some time ago. The thought is we have some potential issues with inflation (I think that is quite obvious), along with some other potential issues with the Dollar remaining the reserve currency. Fundamentals will eventually overtake the manipulation.

Do you think a few months of pain is all we needed to fix one of the largest financial crisis that has ever happened? I highly doubt it. We have definitely pulled out all the tricks in the books and that has bought some time, but if you think the idea of owning physical silver and gold is a bad investment you are sorely mistaken.

[socrattt]

[quote=Chris Scoreboard Johnston]I am not sure who mentioned the next bubble in this thread but the next bubble is Gold. Here is why I think that.

If you look at the COT report, all of the recent buying is being done by small speculators, with the Commercials massively short this market. Commercials being hedgers do fight trends at times so this is not that unusual. However, Large Speculators who are the trend drivers have reached their max long position and the breakout has not occurred yet. This usually leads to major declines in price. This also means any breakout in price will have to be maintained by small people like you and me, buying small amounts against large players selling large amounts. Rumors of large buying by China etc are just that. If they were doing that it would show in the COT report for the cash gold market. Another bullshit story from the people selling metals investments.

Also the PPT’s manipulation with SP 500 futures to keep this stock rally going has resulted in this market being more over valued here in many ways than it was when the Dow was at 14k. They are doing it now to help them spin the story that the stimulus plan has worked and the stock market rally is proof of that.

Barry is using the PPT in ways it was not used in the past. They normally just showed up when plunges occurred to attempt to stablize things. Having been aware of the PPT for some time, I am usually able to tell when they show up and have posted some of those appearances on my blog. This has been a little tougher because they are so active it is not quite as easy to tell any more.

I would sure love to see the publics reaction if it were revealed that alot of the derivative losses with banks were PPT buy trades placed in their accounts to try and stop the stock market selloff last year. Goldman Sacks and Merril are two places rumored to be where the PPT does their trading. Is it any wonder B of A paid 50B for a company going out of business in a deal put together by the government. It is no wonder they will not reveal how the money has been spent.

He is using it to further policy, which is incredible. However, if we happen to hit a point where the funds start to sell, probably a 20 day low, even the PPT will not be able to stop it. They have been able to stop a 20 day low so far, but odds are it will happen eventually.

I am a trader not a long term holder of things. But I would have my stops close in the Metals here, that way you can keep riding this if it goes, but you will be out if a large decline occurs here which does seem likely. Those who have held this for so long have a great trade on their hands, but don’t get too greedy.

Seasonals call for a top in October, so by then it would be imperative to have close stops or be out.

I heard a bank analyst who did a report on the financial health of that sector, Chris something or another I can’t remember his last name. He rated 2600 out of the 8500 banks basically insolvent, and only gave 3000 an A in the clear rating. If that is anywhere near accurate, we still have some problems out there about to surface.[/quote]

Chris, I fell asleep after the third paragraph. I think your assumptions sounded a bit repetitive. You assumptions are clearly that as most analyst are about as uneducated as the senior VP at Wells Fargo :). It is crazy to think that brain dead folks like Cheronda Guyton run our financial institutions.

The idea that we follow patterns and charts is asinine. This idea was thrown out the window quite some time ago. The thought is we have some potential issues with inflation (I think that is quite obvious), along with some other potential issues with the Dollar remaining the reserve currency. Fundamentals will eventually overtake the manipulation.

Do you think a few months of pain is all we needed to fix one of the largest financial crisis that has ever happened? I highly doubt it. We have definitely pulled out all the tricks in the books and that has bought some time, but if you think the idea of owning physical silver and gold is a bad investment you are sorely mistaken.

[socrattt]

[quote=Chris Scoreboard Johnston]I am not sure who mentioned the next bubble in this thread but the next bubble is Gold. Here is why I think that.

If you look at the COT report, all of the recent buying is being done by small speculators, with the Commercials massively short this market. Commercials being hedgers do fight trends at times so this is not that unusual. However, Large Speculators who are the trend drivers have reached their max long position and the breakout has not occurred yet. This usually leads to major declines in price. This also means any breakout in price will have to be maintained by small people like you and me, buying small amounts against large players selling large amounts. Rumors of large buying by China etc are just that. If they were doing that it would show in the COT report for the cash gold market. Another bullshit story from the people selling metals investments.

Also the PPT’s manipulation with SP 500 futures to keep this stock rally going has resulted in this market being more over valued here in many ways than it was when the Dow was at 14k. They are doing it now to help them spin the story that the stimulus plan has worked and the stock market rally is proof of that.

Barry is using the PPT in ways it was not used in the past. They normally just showed up when plunges occurred to attempt to stablize things. Having been aware of the PPT for some time, I am usually able to tell when they show up and have posted some of those appearances on my blog. This has been a little tougher because they are so active it is not quite as easy to tell any more.

I would sure love to see the publics reaction if it were revealed that alot of the derivative losses with banks were PPT buy trades placed in their accounts to try and stop the stock market selloff last year. Goldman Sacks and Merril are two places rumored to be where the PPT does their trading. Is it any wonder B of A paid 50B for a company going out of business in a deal put together by the government. It is no wonder they will not reveal how the money has been spent.

He is using it to further policy, which is incredible. However, if we happen to hit a point where the funds start to sell, probably a 20 day low, even the PPT will not be able to stop it. They have been able to stop a 20 day low so far, but odds are it will happen eventually.

I am a trader not a long term holder of things. But I would have my stops close in the Metals here, that way you can keep riding this if it goes, but you will be out if a large decline occurs here which does seem likely. Those who have held this for so long have a great trade on their hands, but don’t get too greedy.

Seasonals call for a top in October, so by then it would be imperative to have close stops or be out.

I heard a bank analyst who did a report on the financial health of that sector, Chris something or another I can’t remember his last name. He rated 2600 out of the 8500 banks basically insolvent, and only gave 3000 an A in the clear rating. If that is anywhere near accurate, we still have some problems out there about to surface.[/quote]

Chris, I fell asleep after the third paragraph. I think your assumptions sounded a bit repetitive. You assumptions are clearly that as most analyst are about as uneducated as the senior VP at Wells Fargo :). It is crazy to think that brain dead folks like Cheronda Guyton run our financial institutions.

The idea that we follow patterns and charts is asinine. This idea was thrown out the window quite some time ago. The thought is we have some potential issues with inflation (I think that is quite obvious), along with some other potential issues with the Dollar remaining the reserve currency. Fundamentals will eventually overtake the manipulation.

Do you think a few months of pain is all we needed to fix one of the largest financial crisis that has ever happened? I highly doubt it. We have definitely pulled out all the tricks in the books and that has bought some time, but if you think the idea of owning physical silver and gold is a bad investment you are sorely mistaken.

[4plexowner]

“if you think the idea of owning physical silver and gold is a bad investment you are sorely mistaken”

Chris has been wrong about gold since it was around $500 – he’ll eventually be right but he will have missed out on one of the largest bull markets in his lifetime – oh well …

[4plexowner]

“if you think the idea of owning physical silver and gold is a bad investment you are sorely mistaken”

Chris has been wrong about gold since it was around $500 – he’ll eventually be right but he will have missed out on one of the largest bull markets in his lifetime – oh well …

[4plexowner]

“if you think the idea of owning physical silver and gold is a bad investment you are sorely mistaken”

Chris has been wrong about gold since it was around $500 – he’ll eventually be right but he will have missed out on one of the largest bull markets in his lifetime – oh well …

[4plexowner]

“if you think the idea of owning physical silver and gold is a bad investment you are sorely mistaken”

Chris has been wrong about gold since it was around $500 – he’ll eventually be right but he will have missed out on one of the largest bull markets in his lifetime – oh well …

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