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December 29, 2007 at 2:46 PM #126390December 30, 2007 at 10:49 AM #126428
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ParticipantA little off-topic: SD community colleges have transfer programs to UC and SDSU. If you do it right, entry is guaranteed. It makes your total education cost considerably lower.
December 30, 2007 at 10:49 AM #126586ParticipantA little off-topic: SD community colleges have transfer programs to UC and SDSU. If you do it right, entry is guaranteed. It makes your total education cost considerably lower.
December 30, 2007 at 10:49 AM #126597ParticipantA little off-topic: SD community colleges have transfer programs to UC and SDSU. If you do it right, entry is guaranteed. It makes your total education cost considerably lower.
December 30, 2007 at 10:49 AM #126664ParticipantA little off-topic: SD community colleges have transfer programs to UC and SDSU. If you do it right, entry is guaranteed. It makes your total education cost considerably lower.
December 30, 2007 at 10:49 AM #126690ParticipantA little off-topic: SD community colleges have transfer programs to UC and SDSU. If you do it right, entry is guaranteed. It makes your total education cost considerably lower.
December 30, 2007 at 11:57 PM #126653CoronitaParticipantCornell is a great Ivy for Engineering. The nice thing about a lot of the top private schools with large endowments, at least as far as the Ivy's are concerned, is that they have need blind admissions and will make sure if you are accepted that you get a financial aid package that will allow you to attend.
Well, I can say it has a great engineering program. But I'm not sure speaking from experience that is was "better" than some of the UC's. But I haven't attended other UC's to compare first hand. Only from comparing notes with other friends that have 🙂 From a price perspective, it was much more expensive.
The challenge that I had there was finding decent projects, because at the time you didn't have large corporation sponsors backing a lot of projects. I've told things have changed recently.
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December 30, 2007 at 11:57 PM #126811CoronitaParticipantCornell is a great Ivy for Engineering. The nice thing about a lot of the top private schools with large endowments, at least as far as the Ivy's are concerned, is that they have need blind admissions and will make sure if you are accepted that you get a financial aid package that will allow you to attend.
Well, I can say it has a great engineering program. But I'm not sure speaking from experience that is was "better" than some of the UC's. But I haven't attended other UC's to compare first hand. Only from comparing notes with other friends that have 🙂 From a price perspective, it was much more expensive.
The challenge that I had there was finding decent projects, because at the time you didn't have large corporation sponsors backing a lot of projects. I've told things have changed recently.
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December 30, 2007 at 11:57 PM #126822CoronitaParticipantCornell is a great Ivy for Engineering. The nice thing about a lot of the top private schools with large endowments, at least as far as the Ivy's are concerned, is that they have need blind admissions and will make sure if you are accepted that you get a financial aid package that will allow you to attend.
Well, I can say it has a great engineering program. But I'm not sure speaking from experience that is was "better" than some of the UC's. But I haven't attended other UC's to compare first hand. Only from comparing notes with other friends that have 🙂 From a price perspective, it was much more expensive.
The challenge that I had there was finding decent projects, because at the time you didn't have large corporation sponsors backing a lot of projects. I've told things have changed recently.
[img_assist|nid=5962|title=selfportrait|desc=|link=node|align=left|width=100|height=80]
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December 30, 2007 at 11:57 PM #126890CoronitaParticipantCornell is a great Ivy for Engineering. The nice thing about a lot of the top private schools with large endowments, at least as far as the Ivy's are concerned, is that they have need blind admissions and will make sure if you are accepted that you get a financial aid package that will allow you to attend.
Well, I can say it has a great engineering program. But I'm not sure speaking from experience that is was "better" than some of the UC's. But I haven't attended other UC's to compare first hand. Only from comparing notes with other friends that have 🙂 From a price perspective, it was much more expensive.
The challenge that I had there was finding decent projects, because at the time you didn't have large corporation sponsors backing a lot of projects. I've told things have changed recently.
[img_assist|nid=5962|title=selfportrait|desc=|link=node|align=left|width=100|height=80]
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December 30, 2007 at 11:57 PM #126914CoronitaParticipantCornell is a great Ivy for Engineering. The nice thing about a lot of the top private schools with large endowments, at least as far as the Ivy's are concerned, is that they have need blind admissions and will make sure if you are accepted that you get a financial aid package that will allow you to attend.
Well, I can say it has a great engineering program. But I'm not sure speaking from experience that is was "better" than some of the UC's. But I haven't attended other UC's to compare first hand. Only from comparing notes with other friends that have 🙂 From a price perspective, it was much more expensive.
The challenge that I had there was finding decent projects, because at the time you didn't have large corporation sponsors backing a lot of projects. I've told things have changed recently.
[img_assist|nid=5962|title=selfportrait|desc=|link=node|align=left|width=100|height=80]
—– Sour grapes for everyone!
December 31, 2007 at 12:29 AM #126663CoronitaParticipantUC this, UC that, Mudd, Stanford, MIT bla bla bla.
On Piggington's Fantasy Island only those schools will do.
San Diego State has fine engineering programs (undergrad) – if you work for a company your own abilities will largely determine your destiny, not the school you attended.
This forum reeks of San Diego snobbery as usual – makes me sick.
Sigh. People are so sensitive on this forum. Look, someone (marion) asked specifically about CA schools. I was raised to get into the best program I could without killing myself. I plan on raising my kid that way too.
Do I look down on people that didn't go to UC, or Ivy or MIT/Stanford,etc? Heck no. In fact, I'm sure I'm more open minded about other people's education then some folks that didn't go to UC/Ivy etc are about those that did thinking their intellectual snobs and there's no need to go to those schools. Come on, let's get real, some school's curriculum are better than others for different subjects. You going to tell me different school districts don't make a different between say LJ and something like in the inner city? That's reality…
And more bubble bursting here. I'm sure if you look at the broader spectrum there is a high correlation to quality education versus people that have better careers/financial situations moving forward. It's not a guarantee and there's always exceptions one way or the other. But I would say baring the exceptions, on average more people in better schools probably have more doors available to them. Later, it depends a lot on what those people do with those doors..But those are definitely different doors.
You could argue some of the best brains didn't go to school. Sure, Bill Gates come to mind. (well, bill gates went to harvard and quit because he wasn't challenged). But, let's be real, on average, most people aren't bill gates (though I find a lot of people conveniently think they don't need a better education because they think they are like bill gates..)
And I while there a fraction of the people would probably be ok with NO college, that is a very small fraction. If you think you (or your kids) fit in to that small fraction, go ahead and try. And if you succeed, sure good for you. And you can rub it into all those people that went to a UC/Ivy league/etc.
But if you take that route, and things don't work out, and can't seem to get the top careers because on average people in a particular profession have gotten a degree was a certain level of rigor, or if you're consistently worried about being outsourced because your work is easily replaceable by some fresh college grad, don't b!tch about it.
I'm sure there are plenty of SDSU grads that do just fine. And like I said, unlike other countries, not getting into one or two schools isn't the end of world. But if you have the means, why not shoot for something better and deal with any shortcomings rather just say well it's all the same, so who cares? If you can't get that opportunity, it's not a big deal. But throwing any away is just plain dumb imho.
If you didn't get into a UC school and am bitter about it, sorry. There were probably many factors I'm sure, some of which might not all have been an particular individuals. A lot of the problems in the U.S. is there is too much $$$ attached to a good education, unlike in several countries overseas, which admissions to the best schools are to public schools as based on entrance exams and merit, where financial support is not an issue. But if you're doing fine financially anyway, who really cares anyways?
For the record, a few managers that I work with have very limited college education. But they have several years of experience and work their butts off. I haven't met a single one that didn't wish they went to college.
Maybe it's inherenting OG's sig, but you know occassionally it does seem people are just pissed of about life in general on this board. Sheesh.
[img_assist|nid=5962|title=selfportrait|desc=|link=node|align=left|width=100|height=80]
—– Sour grapes for everyone!
December 31, 2007 at 12:29 AM #126821CoronitaParticipantUC this, UC that, Mudd, Stanford, MIT bla bla bla.
On Piggington's Fantasy Island only those schools will do.
San Diego State has fine engineering programs (undergrad) – if you work for a company your own abilities will largely determine your destiny, not the school you attended.
This forum reeks of San Diego snobbery as usual – makes me sick.
Sigh. People are so sensitive on this forum. Look, someone (marion) asked specifically about CA schools. I was raised to get into the best program I could without killing myself. I plan on raising my kid that way too.
Do I look down on people that didn't go to UC, or Ivy or MIT/Stanford,etc? Heck no. In fact, I'm sure I'm more open minded about other people's education then some folks that didn't go to UC/Ivy etc are about those that did thinking their intellectual snobs and there's no need to go to those schools. Come on, let's get real, some school's curriculum are better than others for different subjects. You going to tell me different school districts don't make a different between say LJ and something like in the inner city? That's reality…
And more bubble bursting here. I'm sure if you look at the broader spectrum there is a high correlation to quality education versus people that have better careers/financial situations moving forward. It's not a guarantee and there's always exceptions one way or the other. But I would say baring the exceptions, on average more people in better schools probably have more doors available to them. Later, it depends a lot on what those people do with those doors..But those are definitely different doors.
You could argue some of the best brains didn't go to school. Sure, Bill Gates come to mind. (well, bill gates went to harvard and quit because he wasn't challenged). But, let's be real, on average, most people aren't bill gates (though I find a lot of people conveniently think they don't need a better education because they think they are like bill gates..)
And I while there a fraction of the people would probably be ok with NO college, that is a very small fraction. If you think you (or your kids) fit in to that small fraction, go ahead and try. And if you succeed, sure good for you. And you can rub it into all those people that went to a UC/Ivy league/etc.
But if you take that route, and things don't work out, and can't seem to get the top careers because on average people in a particular profession have gotten a degree was a certain level of rigor, or if you're consistently worried about being outsourced because your work is easily replaceable by some fresh college grad, don't b!tch about it.
I'm sure there are plenty of SDSU grads that do just fine. And like I said, unlike other countries, not getting into one or two schools isn't the end of world. But if you have the means, why not shoot for something better and deal with any shortcomings rather just say well it's all the same, so who cares? If you can't get that opportunity, it's not a big deal. But throwing any away is just plain dumb imho.
If you didn't get into a UC school and am bitter about it, sorry. There were probably many factors I'm sure, some of which might not all have been an particular individuals. A lot of the problems in the U.S. is there is too much $$$ attached to a good education, unlike in several countries overseas, which admissions to the best schools are to public schools as based on entrance exams and merit, where financial support is not an issue. But if you're doing fine financially anyway, who really cares anyways?
For the record, a few managers that I work with have very limited college education. But they have several years of experience and work their butts off. I haven't met a single one that didn't wish they went to college.
Maybe it's inherenting OG's sig, but you know occassionally it does seem people are just pissed of about life in general on this board. Sheesh.
[img_assist|nid=5962|title=selfportrait|desc=|link=node|align=left|width=100|height=80]
—– Sour grapes for everyone!
December 31, 2007 at 12:29 AM #126833CoronitaParticipantUC this, UC that, Mudd, Stanford, MIT bla bla bla.
On Piggington's Fantasy Island only those schools will do.
San Diego State has fine engineering programs (undergrad) – if you work for a company your own abilities will largely determine your destiny, not the school you attended.
This forum reeks of San Diego snobbery as usual – makes me sick.
Sigh. People are so sensitive on this forum. Look, someone (marion) asked specifically about CA schools. I was raised to get into the best program I could without killing myself. I plan on raising my kid that way too.
Do I look down on people that didn't go to UC, or Ivy or MIT/Stanford,etc? Heck no. In fact, I'm sure I'm more open minded about other people's education then some folks that didn't go to UC/Ivy etc are about those that did thinking their intellectual snobs and there's no need to go to those schools. Come on, let's get real, some school's curriculum are better than others for different subjects. You going to tell me different school districts don't make a different between say LJ and something like in the inner city? That's reality…
And more bubble bursting here. I'm sure if you look at the broader spectrum there is a high correlation to quality education versus people that have better careers/financial situations moving forward. It's not a guarantee and there's always exceptions one way or the other. But I would say baring the exceptions, on average more people in better schools probably have more doors available to them. Later, it depends a lot on what those people do with those doors..But those are definitely different doors.
You could argue some of the best brains didn't go to school. Sure, Bill Gates come to mind. (well, bill gates went to harvard and quit because he wasn't challenged). But, let's be real, on average, most people aren't bill gates (though I find a lot of people conveniently think they don't need a better education because they think they are like bill gates..)
And I while there a fraction of the people would probably be ok with NO college, that is a very small fraction. If you think you (or your kids) fit in to that small fraction, go ahead and try. And if you succeed, sure good for you. And you can rub it into all those people that went to a UC/Ivy league/etc.
But if you take that route, and things don't work out, and can't seem to get the top careers because on average people in a particular profession have gotten a degree was a certain level of rigor, or if you're consistently worried about being outsourced because your work is easily replaceable by some fresh college grad, don't b!tch about it.
I'm sure there are plenty of SDSU grads that do just fine. And like I said, unlike other countries, not getting into one or two schools isn't the end of world. But if you have the means, why not shoot for something better and deal with any shortcomings rather just say well it's all the same, so who cares? If you can't get that opportunity, it's not a big deal. But throwing any away is just plain dumb imho.
If you didn't get into a UC school and am bitter about it, sorry. There were probably many factors I'm sure, some of which might not all have been an particular individuals. A lot of the problems in the U.S. is there is too much $$$ attached to a good education, unlike in several countries overseas, which admissions to the best schools are to public schools as based on entrance exams and merit, where financial support is not an issue. But if you're doing fine financially anyway, who really cares anyways?
For the record, a few managers that I work with have very limited college education. But they have several years of experience and work their butts off. I haven't met a single one that didn't wish they went to college.
Maybe it's inherenting OG's sig, but you know occassionally it does seem people are just pissed of about life in general on this board. Sheesh.
[img_assist|nid=5962|title=selfportrait|desc=|link=node|align=left|width=100|height=80]
—– Sour grapes for everyone!
December 31, 2007 at 12:29 AM #126900CoronitaParticipantUC this, UC that, Mudd, Stanford, MIT bla bla bla.
On Piggington's Fantasy Island only those schools will do.
San Diego State has fine engineering programs (undergrad) – if you work for a company your own abilities will largely determine your destiny, not the school you attended.
This forum reeks of San Diego snobbery as usual – makes me sick.
Sigh. People are so sensitive on this forum. Look, someone (marion) asked specifically about CA schools. I was raised to get into the best program I could without killing myself. I plan on raising my kid that way too.
Do I look down on people that didn't go to UC, or Ivy or MIT/Stanford,etc? Heck no. In fact, I'm sure I'm more open minded about other people's education then some folks that didn't go to UC/Ivy etc are about those that did thinking their intellectual snobs and there's no need to go to those schools. Come on, let's get real, some school's curriculum are better than others for different subjects. You going to tell me different school districts don't make a different between say LJ and something like in the inner city? That's reality…
And more bubble bursting here. I'm sure if you look at the broader spectrum there is a high correlation to quality education versus people that have better careers/financial situations moving forward. It's not a guarantee and there's always exceptions one way or the other. But I would say baring the exceptions, on average more people in better schools probably have more doors available to them. Later, it depends a lot on what those people do with those doors..But those are definitely different doors.
You could argue some of the best brains didn't go to school. Sure, Bill Gates come to mind. (well, bill gates went to harvard and quit because he wasn't challenged). But, let's be real, on average, most people aren't bill gates (though I find a lot of people conveniently think they don't need a better education because they think they are like bill gates..)
And I while there a fraction of the people would probably be ok with NO college, that is a very small fraction. If you think you (or your kids) fit in to that small fraction, go ahead and try. And if you succeed, sure good for you. And you can rub it into all those people that went to a UC/Ivy league/etc.
But if you take that route, and things don't work out, and can't seem to get the top careers because on average people in a particular profession have gotten a degree was a certain level of rigor, or if you're consistently worried about being outsourced because your work is easily replaceable by some fresh college grad, don't b!tch about it.
I'm sure there are plenty of SDSU grads that do just fine. And like I said, unlike other countries, not getting into one or two schools isn't the end of world. But if you have the means, why not shoot for something better and deal with any shortcomings rather just say well it's all the same, so who cares? If you can't get that opportunity, it's not a big deal. But throwing any away is just plain dumb imho.
If you didn't get into a UC school and am bitter about it, sorry. There were probably many factors I'm sure, some of which might not all have been an particular individuals. A lot of the problems in the U.S. is there is too much $$$ attached to a good education, unlike in several countries overseas, which admissions to the best schools are to public schools as based on entrance exams and merit, where financial support is not an issue. But if you're doing fine financially anyway, who really cares anyways?
For the record, a few managers that I work with have very limited college education. But they have several years of experience and work their butts off. I haven't met a single one that didn't wish they went to college.
Maybe it's inherenting OG's sig, but you know occassionally it does seem people are just pissed of about life in general on this board. Sheesh.
[img_assist|nid=5962|title=selfportrait|desc=|link=node|align=left|width=100|height=80]
—– Sour grapes for everyone!
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