Hysteria versus Reality: The Secular Left has killed over 100 Million People

[pedrocon]

Would anyone like to contribute to the “stop moron lawyers fund”. SMLF

[urbanrealtor]

[quote=afx114]Well put urban. If I could distill your arguments into a bite-sized piece it would be: “correlation is not causation.”[/quote]

Sort of.
I mean Marx and others early on have explicit dislike of religion.

The application of communism is realized locally.

I think that is why the Khmer reds hated the Viet Reds so much.

I also think that is why North Korea is so psychotic and was disliked by other reds during the cold war.

Note:
The only political system I have ever seen spread in a way that is similar across locations, is British Liberalism. Its not the same everywhere but the differences between say the US and Pakistan are not so big as to be mutually alienating.

[urbanrealtor]

[quote=afx114]Well put urban. If I could distill your arguments into a bite-sized piece it would be: “correlation is not causation.”[/quote]

Sort of.
I mean Marx and others early on have explicit dislike of religion.

The application of communism is realized locally.

I think that is why the Khmer reds hated the Viet Reds so much.

I also think that is why North Korea is so psychotic and was disliked by other reds during the cold war.

Note:
The only political system I have ever seen spread in a way that is similar across locations, is British Liberalism. Its not the same everywhere but the differences between say the US and Pakistan are not so big as to be mutually alienating.

[urbanrealtor]

[quote=afx114]Well put urban. If I could distill your arguments into a bite-sized piece it would be: “correlation is not causation.”[/quote]

Sort of.
I mean Marx and others early on have explicit dislike of religion.

The application of communism is realized locally.

I think that is why the Khmer reds hated the Viet Reds so much.

I also think that is why North Korea is so psychotic and was disliked by other reds during the cold war.

Note:
The only political system I have ever seen spread in a way that is similar across locations, is British Liberalism. Its not the same everywhere but the differences between say the US and Pakistan are not so big as to be mutually alienating.

[urbanrealtor]

[quote=afx114]Well put urban. If I could distill your arguments into a bite-sized piece it would be: “correlation is not causation.”[/quote]

Sort of.
I mean Marx and others early on have explicit dislike of religion.

The application of communism is realized locally.

I think that is why the Khmer reds hated the Viet Reds so much.

I also think that is why North Korea is so psychotic and was disliked by other reds during the cold war.

Note:
The only political system I have ever seen spread in a way that is similar across locations, is British Liberalism. Its not the same everywhere but the differences between say the US and Pakistan are not so big as to be mutually alienating.

[urbanrealtor]

[quote=afx114]Well put urban. If I could distill your arguments into a bite-sized piece it would be: “correlation is not causation.”[/quote]

Sort of.
I mean Marx and others early on have explicit dislike of religion.

The application of communism is realized locally.

I think that is why the Khmer reds hated the Viet Reds so much.

I also think that is why North Korea is so psychotic and was disliked by other reds during the cold war.

Note:
The only political system I have ever seen spread in a way that is similar across locations, is British Liberalism. Its not the same everywhere but the differences between say the US and Pakistan are not so big as to be mutually alienating.

[gandalf]

HOW ABOUT ANSWERING THE QUESTION?

Why are we seeing the same symptoms of social decay occurring in white rural areas these days — areas which are predominantly CHRISTIAN? Increases in crime, meth addition and drug use, teen pregnancy and single motherhood, poverty and unemployment — all of it is on the rise. In some places, entire communities have been devastated the way we would typically associate with urban ghettos. These are rural white populations, luch. CHRISTIANS. What’s going on?

You make the astounding statements that the “Secular Left” is to blame for the social problems found in American cities, and for the deaths of 100M people at the hands of ruthless dictatorships. Perhaps ‘Christianity’ doesn’t have as much to do with it as you suggest? All forms of government are susceptible to the consolidation of power and the violent oppression of people. It is RELIGIOUS BIGOTRY to suggest that societies that aren’t Judeo-Christian are “evil killing machines”.

We’re a predominantly Christian nation. The US didn’t have to drop atomic bombs on Japanese civilians at the end of WWII. We did it for strategic reasons. How many civilians did we incinerate or kill through radiation exposure? Check the archives at UCMerced for a first-hand photos and accounts of what a Christian empire is capable of doing. What happened to Native Americans? Is exterminating a race of humans a ‘Christian’ thing to do? Take some time to familiarize yourself with the history of your own country. Maybe we’re not as ‘Christian’ as you’d like to think we are.

And as for the ad-hominems, you started this retarded thread. You made some stupendously bigoted statements — saying people who aren’t Christian enough for your taste are responsible for the deaths of 100M people. You toss out this ludicrous attack-mode crap then cry “ad hominem” when confronted. “Stop calling me names… Whaaa, whaaa…” Welcome to the ‘new-age’ republican party. Used to be bleeding-heart liberals, now it’s bleeding-heart conservatives.

[gandalf]

HOW ABOUT ANSWERING THE QUESTION?

Why are we seeing the same symptoms of social decay occurring in white rural areas these days — areas which are predominantly CHRISTIAN? Increases in crime, meth addition and drug use, teen pregnancy and single motherhood, poverty and unemployment — all of it is on the rise. In some places, entire communities have been devastated the way we would typically associate with urban ghettos. These are rural white populations, luch. CHRISTIANS. What’s going on?

You make the astounding statements that the “Secular Left” is to blame for the social problems found in American cities, and for the deaths of 100M people at the hands of ruthless dictatorships. Perhaps ‘Christianity’ doesn’t have as much to do with it as you suggest? All forms of government are susceptible to the consolidation of power and the violent oppression of people. It is RELIGIOUS BIGOTRY to suggest that societies that aren’t Judeo-Christian are “evil killing machines”.

We’re a predominantly Christian nation. The US didn’t have to drop atomic bombs on Japanese civilians at the end of WWII. We did it for strategic reasons. How many civilians did we incinerate or kill through radiation exposure? Check the archives at UCMerced for a first-hand photos and accounts of what a Christian empire is capable of doing. What happened to Native Americans? Is exterminating a race of humans a ‘Christian’ thing to do? Take some time to familiarize yourself with the history of your own country. Maybe we’re not as ‘Christian’ as you’d like to think we are.

And as for the ad-hominems, you started this retarded thread. You made some stupendously bigoted statements — saying people who aren’t Christian enough for your taste are responsible for the deaths of 100M people. You toss out this ludicrous attack-mode crap then cry “ad hominem” when confronted. “Stop calling me names… Whaaa, whaaa…” Welcome to the ‘new-age’ republican party. Used to be bleeding-heart liberals, now it’s bleeding-heart conservatives.

[gandalf]

HOW ABOUT ANSWERING THE QUESTION?

Why are we seeing the same symptoms of social decay occurring in white rural areas these days — areas which are predominantly CHRISTIAN? Increases in crime, meth addition and drug use, teen pregnancy and single motherhood, poverty and unemployment — all of it is on the rise. In some places, entire communities have been devastated the way we would typically associate with urban ghettos. These are rural white populations, luch. CHRISTIANS. What’s going on?

You make the astounding statements that the “Secular Left” is to blame for the social problems found in American cities, and for the deaths of 100M people at the hands of ruthless dictatorships. Perhaps ‘Christianity’ doesn’t have as much to do with it as you suggest? All forms of government are susceptible to the consolidation of power and the violent oppression of people. It is RELIGIOUS BIGOTRY to suggest that societies that aren’t Judeo-Christian are “evil killing machines”.

We’re a predominantly Christian nation. The US didn’t have to drop atomic bombs on Japanese civilians at the end of WWII. We did it for strategic reasons. How many civilians did we incinerate or kill through radiation exposure? Check the archives at UCMerced for a first-hand photos and accounts of what a Christian empire is capable of doing. What happened to Native Americans? Is exterminating a race of humans a ‘Christian’ thing to do? Take some time to familiarize yourself with the history of your own country. Maybe we’re not as ‘Christian’ as you’d like to think we are.

And as for the ad-hominems, you started this retarded thread. You made some stupendously bigoted statements — saying people who aren’t Christian enough for your taste are responsible for the deaths of 100M people. You toss out this ludicrous attack-mode crap then cry “ad hominem” when confronted. “Stop calling me names… Whaaa, whaaa…” Welcome to the ‘new-age’ republican party. Used to be bleeding-heart liberals, now it’s bleeding-heart conservatives.

[gandalf]

HOW ABOUT ANSWERING THE QUESTION?

Why are we seeing the same symptoms of social decay occurring in white rural areas these days — areas which are predominantly CHRISTIAN? Increases in crime, meth addition and drug use, teen pregnancy and single motherhood, poverty and unemployment — all of it is on the rise. In some places, entire communities have been devastated the way we would typically associate with urban ghettos. These are rural white populations, luch. CHRISTIANS. What’s going on?

You make the astounding statements that the “Secular Left” is to blame for the social problems found in American cities, and for the deaths of 100M people at the hands of ruthless dictatorships. Perhaps ‘Christianity’ doesn’t have as much to do with it as you suggest? All forms of government are susceptible to the consolidation of power and the violent oppression of people. It is RELIGIOUS BIGOTRY to suggest that societies that aren’t Judeo-Christian are “evil killing machines”.

We’re a predominantly Christian nation. The US didn’t have to drop atomic bombs on Japanese civilians at the end of WWII. We did it for strategic reasons. How many civilians did we incinerate or kill through radiation exposure? Check the archives at UCMerced for a first-hand photos and accounts of what a Christian empire is capable of doing. What happened to Native Americans? Is exterminating a race of humans a ‘Christian’ thing to do? Take some time to familiarize yourself with the history of your own country. Maybe we’re not as ‘Christian’ as you’d like to think we are.

And as for the ad-hominems, you started this retarded thread. You made some stupendously bigoted statements — saying people who aren’t Christian enough for your taste are responsible for the deaths of 100M people. You toss out this ludicrous attack-mode crap then cry “ad hominem” when confronted. “Stop calling me names… Whaaa, whaaa…” Welcome to the ‘new-age’ republican party. Used to be bleeding-heart liberals, now it’s bleeding-heart conservatives.

[gandalf]

HOW ABOUT ANSWERING THE QUESTION?

Why are we seeing the same symptoms of social decay occurring in white rural areas these days — areas which are predominantly CHRISTIAN? Increases in crime, meth addition and drug use, teen pregnancy and single motherhood, poverty and unemployment — all of it is on the rise. In some places, entire communities have been devastated the way we would typically associate with urban ghettos. These are rural white populations, luch. CHRISTIANS. What’s going on?

You make the astounding statements that the “Secular Left” is to blame for the social problems found in American cities, and for the deaths of 100M people at the hands of ruthless dictatorships. Perhaps ‘Christianity’ doesn’t have as much to do with it as you suggest? All forms of government are susceptible to the consolidation of power and the violent oppression of people. It is RELIGIOUS BIGOTRY to suggest that societies that aren’t Judeo-Christian are “evil killing machines”.

We’re a predominantly Christian nation. The US didn’t have to drop atomic bombs on Japanese civilians at the end of WWII. We did it for strategic reasons. How many civilians did we incinerate or kill through radiation exposure? Check the archives at UCMerced for a first-hand photos and accounts of what a Christian empire is capable of doing. What happened to Native Americans? Is exterminating a race of humans a ‘Christian’ thing to do? Take some time to familiarize yourself with the history of your own country. Maybe we’re not as ‘Christian’ as you’d like to think we are.

And as for the ad-hominems, you started this retarded thread. You made some stupendously bigoted statements — saying people who aren’t Christian enough for your taste are responsible for the deaths of 100M people. You toss out this ludicrous attack-mode crap then cry “ad hominem” when confronted. “Stop calling me names… Whaaa, whaaa…” Welcome to the ‘new-age’ republican party. Used to be bleeding-heart liberals, now it’s bleeding-heart conservatives.

[urbanrealtor]

Gandalf:

There are people who can rant with skill.
In many ways Obama’s speaking style is an effective rant much of the time.

This is not a skill that you display.

Please try engaging thoughtfully in the future.
Alternatively, you could be entertaining in some way.

I agree with several of your points but they are so crappily laid out that it is tough to defend or support.

ugh

[urbanrealtor]

Gandalf:

There are people who can rant with skill.
In many ways Obama’s speaking style is an effective rant much of the time.

This is not a skill that you display.

Please try engaging thoughtfully in the future.
Alternatively, you could be entertaining in some way.

I agree with several of your points but they are so crappily laid out that it is tough to defend or support.

ugh

[urbanrealtor]

Gandalf:

There are people who can rant with skill.
In many ways Obama’s speaking style is an effective rant much of the time.

This is not a skill that you display.

Please try engaging thoughtfully in the future.
Alternatively, you could be entertaining in some way.

I agree with several of your points but they are so crappily laid out that it is tough to defend or support.

ugh

[urbanrealtor]

Gandalf:

There are people who can rant with skill.
In many ways Obama’s speaking style is an effective rant much of the time.

This is not a skill that you display.

Please try engaging thoughtfully in the future.
Alternatively, you could be entertaining in some way.

I agree with several of your points but they are so crappily laid out that it is tough to defend or support.

ugh

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