HS teacher-$70K for 9 months of work

[meadandale]

My niece is in the IE (Corona/Riverside area) and she’s pulling in over $90k for 9 months teaching 1st freaking grade.

Yeah, I’d say that some of our teachers are just a tad overpaid.

[SD Realtor]

Actually no it is not. I have been an ASIC engineer for over 20 years with work at General Instrument, Motorola, 2 startups, IDT and AMCC. I have been in both roles of designer and manager. I also have a few kids as well.

I have faced those same deadline pressures, code release dates, tapeout dates, yada yada. I have seen 1 line of code ruin entire mask sets. So it goes. I have had to patch code in the middle of the night as well.

I also have kids and understand the challenges of raising them. The bottom line is, if you have kids, your teacher will spend more waking time with your kids then you will over a year for most working folks. You may want to call them a glorified babysitter if you want.

For me working a 60 or 70 hour week surrounded by engineers and writing code/running sims/ etc is easier then kids. I think that for 80 or 90% of the engineers out there, the same would be true. So you can talk about the pressures and such, and validate the job in that manner, however I think the teaching job would actually be harder for you. Your skill set of writing code may not necessarly translate to the tedium and patience required of teaching.

[SD Realtor]

Actually no it is not. I have been an ASIC engineer for over 20 years with work at General Instrument, Motorola, 2 startups, IDT and AMCC. I have been in both roles of designer and manager. I also have a few kids as well.

I have faced those same deadline pressures, code release dates, tapeout dates, yada yada. I have seen 1 line of code ruin entire mask sets. So it goes. I have had to patch code in the middle of the night as well.

I also have kids and understand the challenges of raising them. The bottom line is, if you have kids, your teacher will spend more waking time with your kids then you will over a year for most working folks. You may want to call them a glorified babysitter if you want.

For me working a 60 or 70 hour week surrounded by engineers and writing code/running sims/ etc is easier then kids. I think that for 80 or 90% of the engineers out there, the same would be true. So you can talk about the pressures and such, and validate the job in that manner, however I think the teaching job would actually be harder for you. Your skill set of writing code may not necessarly translate to the tedium and patience required of teaching.

[SD Realtor]

Actually no it is not. I have been an ASIC engineer for over 20 years with work at General Instrument, Motorola, 2 startups, IDT and AMCC. I have been in both roles of designer and manager. I also have a few kids as well.

I have faced those same deadline pressures, code release dates, tapeout dates, yada yada. I have seen 1 line of code ruin entire mask sets. So it goes. I have had to patch code in the middle of the night as well.

I also have kids and understand the challenges of raising them. The bottom line is, if you have kids, your teacher will spend more waking time with your kids then you will over a year for most working folks. You may want to call them a glorified babysitter if you want.

For me working a 60 or 70 hour week surrounded by engineers and writing code/running sims/ etc is easier then kids. I think that for 80 or 90% of the engineers out there, the same would be true. So you can talk about the pressures and such, and validate the job in that manner, however I think the teaching job would actually be harder for you. Your skill set of writing code may not necessarly translate to the tedium and patience required of teaching.

[SD Realtor]

Actually no it is not. I have been an ASIC engineer for over 20 years with work at General Instrument, Motorola, 2 startups, IDT and AMCC. I have been in both roles of designer and manager. I also have a few kids as well.

I have faced those same deadline pressures, code release dates, tapeout dates, yada yada. I have seen 1 line of code ruin entire mask sets. So it goes. I have had to patch code in the middle of the night as well.

I also have kids and understand the challenges of raising them. The bottom line is, if you have kids, your teacher will spend more waking time with your kids then you will over a year for most working folks. You may want to call them a glorified babysitter if you want.

For me working a 60 or 70 hour week surrounded by engineers and writing code/running sims/ etc is easier then kids. I think that for 80 or 90% of the engineers out there, the same would be true. So you can talk about the pressures and such, and validate the job in that manner, however I think the teaching job would actually be harder for you. Your skill set of writing code may not necessarly translate to the tedium and patience required of teaching.

[SD Realtor]

Actually no it is not. I have been an ASIC engineer for over 20 years with work at General Instrument, Motorola, 2 startups, IDT and AMCC. I have been in both roles of designer and manager. I also have a few kids as well.

I have faced those same deadline pressures, code release dates, tapeout dates, yada yada. I have seen 1 line of code ruin entire mask sets. So it goes. I have had to patch code in the middle of the night as well.

I also have kids and understand the challenges of raising them. The bottom line is, if you have kids, your teacher will spend more waking time with your kids then you will over a year for most working folks. You may want to call them a glorified babysitter if you want.

For me working a 60 or 70 hour week surrounded by engineers and writing code/running sims/ etc is easier then kids. I think that for 80 or 90% of the engineers out there, the same would be true. So you can talk about the pressures and such, and validate the job in that manner, however I think the teaching job would actually be harder for you. Your skill set of writing code may not necessarly translate to the tedium and patience required of teaching.

[SD Realtor]

I think the overpaid card can be applied to alot of professions. I know a plumber who works for the city of San Diego who makes over 100k. I call my attorney and ask for a simple letter and it costs 150 bucks. I know countless directors at large firms who pull over 200k. I know countless guys who have been from one failed startup to another and are just retreads who make money hand over fist… Check into how much money the orange vested guys who sit on the asphalt trucks eating a donut while you sit in traffic make.

I think the argument can be expanded in a big way. Do I think teachers are overpaid? Well I guess it can be argued yes… however I think it can be extended to alot of other “professions”.

Maybe it is because I have kids and when you have kids you start to think in a different manner and you start to place value on those who influence your kids… maybe not.. .I don’t know… it is just different thats all. Back in the day when I was a guy writing code with no kids the world revolved around me. I was smart and my coworkers were smart and I viewed most other people in other professions either as morons or as people who couldn’t hack what I could do. They couldnt achieve the degree I had and they certainly couldn’t keep up with me writing code or designing ASICs…To me accountants and economists were failed engineers, doctors and bio guys were engineers in a different field, everyone else was someone who couldnt do what I accomplished. Maybe it was just me… probably was…

Things started to change when my wife opened her small biz and then when I opened my brokerage in 03 and started meeting alot of people from what I call the real world. Wildly successful people who took risks and some made it and some didnt…

Anyways sorry for the deviation… to me alot of people are overpaid… even realtors.

[SD Realtor]

I think the overpaid card can be applied to alot of professions. I know a plumber who works for the city of San Diego who makes over 100k. I call my attorney and ask for a simple letter and it costs 150 bucks. I know countless directors at large firms who pull over 200k. I know countless guys who have been from one failed startup to another and are just retreads who make money hand over fist… Check into how much money the orange vested guys who sit on the asphalt trucks eating a donut while you sit in traffic make.

I think the argument can be expanded in a big way. Do I think teachers are overpaid? Well I guess it can be argued yes… however I think it can be extended to alot of other “professions”.

Maybe it is because I have kids and when you have kids you start to think in a different manner and you start to place value on those who influence your kids… maybe not.. .I don’t know… it is just different thats all. Back in the day when I was a guy writing code with no kids the world revolved around me. I was smart and my coworkers were smart and I viewed most other people in other professions either as morons or as people who couldn’t hack what I could do. They couldnt achieve the degree I had and they certainly couldn’t keep up with me writing code or designing ASICs…To me accountants and economists were failed engineers, doctors and bio guys were engineers in a different field, everyone else was someone who couldnt do what I accomplished. Maybe it was just me… probably was…

Things started to change when my wife opened her small biz and then when I opened my brokerage in 03 and started meeting alot of people from what I call the real world. Wildly successful people who took risks and some made it and some didnt…

Anyways sorry for the deviation… to me alot of people are overpaid… even realtors.

[SD Realtor]

I think the overpaid card can be applied to alot of professions. I know a plumber who works for the city of San Diego who makes over 100k. I call my attorney and ask for a simple letter and it costs 150 bucks. I know countless directors at large firms who pull over 200k. I know countless guys who have been from one failed startup to another and are just retreads who make money hand over fist… Check into how much money the orange vested guys who sit on the asphalt trucks eating a donut while you sit in traffic make.

I think the argument can be expanded in a big way. Do I think teachers are overpaid? Well I guess it can be argued yes… however I think it can be extended to alot of other “professions”.

Maybe it is because I have kids and when you have kids you start to think in a different manner and you start to place value on those who influence your kids… maybe not.. .I don’t know… it is just different thats all. Back in the day when I was a guy writing code with no kids the world revolved around me. I was smart and my coworkers were smart and I viewed most other people in other professions either as morons or as people who couldn’t hack what I could do. They couldnt achieve the degree I had and they certainly couldn’t keep up with me writing code or designing ASICs…To me accountants and economists were failed engineers, doctors and bio guys were engineers in a different field, everyone else was someone who couldnt do what I accomplished. Maybe it was just me… probably was…

Things started to change when my wife opened her small biz and then when I opened my brokerage in 03 and started meeting alot of people from what I call the real world. Wildly successful people who took risks and some made it and some didnt…

Anyways sorry for the deviation… to me alot of people are overpaid… even realtors.

[SD Realtor]

I think the overpaid card can be applied to alot of professions. I know a plumber who works for the city of San Diego who makes over 100k. I call my attorney and ask for a simple letter and it costs 150 bucks. I know countless directors at large firms who pull over 200k. I know countless guys who have been from one failed startup to another and are just retreads who make money hand over fist… Check into how much money the orange vested guys who sit on the asphalt trucks eating a donut while you sit in traffic make.

I think the argument can be expanded in a big way. Do I think teachers are overpaid? Well I guess it can be argued yes… however I think it can be extended to alot of other “professions”.

Maybe it is because I have kids and when you have kids you start to think in a different manner and you start to place value on those who influence your kids… maybe not.. .I don’t know… it is just different thats all. Back in the day when I was a guy writing code with no kids the world revolved around me. I was smart and my coworkers were smart and I viewed most other people in other professions either as morons or as people who couldn’t hack what I could do. They couldnt achieve the degree I had and they certainly couldn’t keep up with me writing code or designing ASICs…To me accountants and economists were failed engineers, doctors and bio guys were engineers in a different field, everyone else was someone who couldnt do what I accomplished. Maybe it was just me… probably was…

Things started to change when my wife opened her small biz and then when I opened my brokerage in 03 and started meeting alot of people from what I call the real world. Wildly successful people who took risks and some made it and some didnt…

Anyways sorry for the deviation… to me alot of people are overpaid… even realtors.

[SD Realtor]

I think the overpaid card can be applied to alot of professions. I know a plumber who works for the city of San Diego who makes over 100k. I call my attorney and ask for a simple letter and it costs 150 bucks. I know countless directors at large firms who pull over 200k. I know countless guys who have been from one failed startup to another and are just retreads who make money hand over fist… Check into how much money the orange vested guys who sit on the asphalt trucks eating a donut while you sit in traffic make.

I think the argument can be expanded in a big way. Do I think teachers are overpaid? Well I guess it can be argued yes… however I think it can be extended to alot of other “professions”.

Maybe it is because I have kids and when you have kids you start to think in a different manner and you start to place value on those who influence your kids… maybe not.. .I don’t know… it is just different thats all. Back in the day when I was a guy writing code with no kids the world revolved around me. I was smart and my coworkers were smart and I viewed most other people in other professions either as morons or as people who couldn’t hack what I could do. They couldnt achieve the degree I had and they certainly couldn’t keep up with me writing code or designing ASICs…To me accountants and economists were failed engineers, doctors and bio guys were engineers in a different field, everyone else was someone who couldnt do what I accomplished. Maybe it was just me… probably was…

Things started to change when my wife opened her small biz and then when I opened my brokerage in 03 and started meeting alot of people from what I call the real world. Wildly successful people who took risks and some made it and some didnt…

Anyways sorry for the deviation… to me alot of people are overpaid… even realtors.

[all]

[quote=kev374]
I disagree. The amount of knowledge, creative thinking and deadline pressures you have to deal with on some of these Engineering projects is far greater than any high school teacher will experience I can tell you that. [/quote]
I spent two years teaching HS math and CS between 1996 and 1998. I would do it again if I had to, but it was way more stressful than the rest of my career, including 15 years of software engineering.

[all]

[quote=kev374]
I disagree. The amount of knowledge, creative thinking and deadline pressures you have to deal with on some of these Engineering projects is far greater than any high school teacher will experience I can tell you that. [/quote]
I spent two years teaching HS math and CS between 1996 and 1998. I would do it again if I had to, but it was way more stressful than the rest of my career, including 15 years of software engineering.

[all]

[quote=kev374]
I disagree. The amount of knowledge, creative thinking and deadline pressures you have to deal with on some of these Engineering projects is far greater than any high school teacher will experience I can tell you that. [/quote]
I spent two years teaching HS math and CS between 1996 and 1998. I would do it again if I had to, but it was way more stressful than the rest of my career, including 15 years of software engineering.

[all]

[quote=kev374]
I disagree. The amount of knowledge, creative thinking and deadline pressures you have to deal with on some of these Engineering projects is far greater than any high school teacher will experience I can tell you that. [/quote]
I spent two years teaching HS math and CS between 1996 and 1998. I would do it again if I had to, but it was way more stressful than the rest of my career, including 15 years of software engineering.

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