how much is he worth?

[SD Realtor]

mgubnyc1, you and I know tg is out there working the field…. heheheh..

This is a great thread… it could be one of those lifetime movies… here we have Marion an attractive curvy size 6 divorcee who has the on line mystique and has stirred up a whole nest of real estate bears…she can whip up a pot roast, give you a hot bubble bath and massage, love ya and then put you on the coach and psychoanalyze you… an ex hubby who has perpetrated a disability scam while going to Cuba to poach a little 17 year old senorita… have a kid and then start a daycare in Arizona…

You cannot make this stuff up!!!

Marion – just adding a little levity here,,, I am enjoying your posts…

On the serious side I don’t know what the net worth of you ex is now but really, if he was a loan officer he really is pretty screwed now. I would be willing to bet that whatever new venture he is in, it makes more then a current loan officer these days.

SD Realtor

[temeculaguy]

Sorry gang, been busy lately and I am late to this party. This whole thread is suspicious, I think my good friend and former boss is pretending to be Marion just to get me to write more since she complained recenlty that my posts are sparce lately. It’s too obvious, lives in Murrieta just a few miles away, has a deadbeat out of state ex who wont be slashing my tires, sounds hot, can cook, probably mid thirties to early forties, long dark hair, I feel like a mouse staring at the cheese on a moustrap thinking “cheese, my favorite, no wait, this is too perfect, who puts a perfectly good piece of cheese on the floor?” Other than the fit, size six part (built for comfort not speed is more my style, Tg likes the curves) there’s nothing to convince me that this isn’t a setup. O.K. I’ll bite.

On the off chance that marion is real, I am ashamed of my fellow testicle owners who are lambasting this woman for seeking money. What kind of a man moves to a state that is nowhere near his children. There’s a perfectly good way to avoid child support, change your life to have your kids at least half of the time. Real men raise their own children, anyone else isn’t qualified to drink with me. Almost every social ill can be traced back to men who spawn and move on. I read the posts of those who have sympathy for their bretheren who pay hefty child support bills but you only have half the story. I know those guys too and they ask me why I pay nothing, the secret, get the kids. Don’t just get them, parent them, do homework with them every night, never get a babysitter on Friday night, just hang with them. Never let them meet the latest love interest or even know about her, miss every social event, wedding, party, etc. just to be a parent. Lose every girlfriend because you won’t talk on the phone while you with your kids and you won’t run off for the weekend. Make less money, miss promotions because soccer practice is more important. The point is, make sacrifices to be the best dad you can be, you signed on the dotted line, now honor that. Go Kramer v. Kramer on her ass and get half if not more of their time and don’t just sit there while you have them like it is an obligation, it should be the part you look forward to. Do that and no Judge will take them away and you wont pay a dime. Better yet, they will actually be normal kids. Divorce doesn’t screw kids up, selfish parents do.

I’ve offered my buddies assistance in getting their kids and eliminating child support but I have yet to meet one who didn’t back out once I told them that they can’t take off to vegas every other weekend with their new girlfriend that is half their age, that they wont see Vegas or twenty year olds naked for years, that’s where they start to twitch and I start to realize that they just want to be victims and complain about the money, screw em!!!

I am not on this soapbox looking for sympathy, I like getting a new girlfriend every two months, about the time they grow tired of being second fiddle i grow tired of them, it’s symbiotic.

Marion,I’m afraid the money is going to end but you will get a judgement and at some point you will get paid, the reality is that his line of work is over and it sounds like he jumped on the bandwagon with few skills and is exactly who will be shaken out. The birthday inflatable jumper business is not a road paved with gold either, you may have to start planning now on making it on your own but in the end you will be happier that you did and your kids will be proud of you even if Dr. Laura isn’t.

P.S. I do specialize in consoling divorcees and attending to their needs, so when the pressures seem to be too much to bear, you let ole TG know, he’s always here to help. I’m like a superhero that way.

[temeculaguy]

Sorry gang, been busy lately and I am late to this party. This whole thread is suspicious, I think my good friend and former boss is pretending to be Marion just to get me to write more since she complained recenlty that my posts are sparce lately. It’s too obvious, lives in Murrieta just a few miles away, has a deadbeat out of state ex who wont be slashing my tires, sounds hot, can cook, probably mid thirties to early forties, long dark hair, I feel like a mouse staring at the cheese on a moustrap thinking “cheese, my favorite, no wait, this is too perfect, who puts a perfectly good piece of cheese on the floor?” Other than the fit, size six part (built for comfort not speed is more my style, Tg likes the curves) there’s nothing to convince me that this isn’t a setup. O.K. I’ll bite.

On the off chance that marion is real, I am ashamed of my fellow testicle owners who are lambasting this woman for seeking money. What kind of a man moves to a state that is nowhere near his children. There’s a perfectly good way to avoid child support, change your life to have your kids at least half of the time. Real men raise their own children, anyone else isn’t qualified to drink with me. Almost every social ill can be traced back to men who spawn and move on. I read the posts of those who have sympathy for their bretheren who pay hefty child support bills but you only have half the story. I know those guys too and they ask me why I pay nothing, the secret, get the kids. Don’t just get them, parent them, do homework with them every night, never get a babysitter on Friday night, just hang with them. Never let them meet the latest love interest or even know about her, miss every social event, wedding, party, etc. just to be a parent. Lose every girlfriend because you won’t talk on the phone while you with your kids and you won’t run off for the weekend. Make less money, miss promotions because soccer practice is more important. The point is, make sacrifices to be the best dad you can be, you signed on the dotted line, now honor that. Go Kramer v. Kramer on her ass and get half if not more of their time and don’t just sit there while you have them like it is an obligation, it should be the part you look forward to. Do that and no Judge will take them away and you wont pay a dime. Better yet, they will actually be normal kids. Divorce doesn’t screw kids up, selfish parents do.

I’ve offered my buddies assistance in getting their kids and eliminating child support but I have yet to meet one who didn’t back out once I told them that they can’t take off to vegas every other weekend with their new girlfriend that is half their age, that they wont see Vegas or twenty year olds naked for years, that’s where they start to twitch and I start to realize that they just want to be victims and complain about the money, screw em!!!

I am not on this soapbox looking for sympathy, I like getting a new girlfriend every two months, about the time they grow tired of being second fiddle i grow tired of them, it’s symbiotic.

Marion,I’m afraid the money is going to end but you will get a judgement and at some point you will get paid, the reality is that his line of work is over and it sounds like he jumped on the bandwagon with few skills and is exactly who will be shaken out. The birthday inflatable jumper business is not a road paved with gold either, you may have to start planning now on making it on your own but in the end you will be happier that you did and your kids will be proud of you even if Dr. Laura isn’t.

P.S. I do specialize in consoling divorcees and attending to their needs, so when the pressures seem to be too much to bear, you let ole TG know, he’s always here to help. I’m like a superhero that way.

[temeculaguy]

Sorry gang, been busy lately and I am late to this party. This whole thread is suspicious, I think my good friend and former boss is pretending to be Marion just to get me to write more since she complained recenlty that my posts are sparce lately. It’s too obvious, lives in Murrieta just a few miles away, has a deadbeat out of state ex who wont be slashing my tires, sounds hot, can cook, probably mid thirties to early forties, long dark hair, I feel like a mouse staring at the cheese on a moustrap thinking “cheese, my favorite, no wait, this is too perfect, who puts a perfectly good piece of cheese on the floor?” Other than the fit, size six part (built for comfort not speed is more my style, Tg likes the curves) there’s nothing to convince me that this isn’t a setup. O.K. I’ll bite.

On the off chance that marion is real, I am ashamed of my fellow testicle owners who are lambasting this woman for seeking money. What kind of a man moves to a state that is nowhere near his children. There’s a perfectly good way to avoid child support, change your life to have your kids at least half of the time. Real men raise their own children, anyone else isn’t qualified to drink with me. Almost every social ill can be traced back to men who spawn and move on. I read the posts of those who have sympathy for their bretheren who pay hefty child support bills but you only have half the story. I know those guys too and they ask me why I pay nothing, the secret, get the kids. Don’t just get them, parent them, do homework with them every night, never get a babysitter on Friday night, just hang with them. Never let them meet the latest love interest or even know about her, miss every social event, wedding, party, etc. just to be a parent. Lose every girlfriend because you won’t talk on the phone while you with your kids and you won’t run off for the weekend. Make less money, miss promotions because soccer practice is more important. The point is, make sacrifices to be the best dad you can be, you signed on the dotted line, now honor that. Go Kramer v. Kramer on her ass and get half if not more of their time and don’t just sit there while you have them like it is an obligation, it should be the part you look forward to. Do that and no Judge will take them away and you wont pay a dime. Better yet, they will actually be normal kids. Divorce doesn’t screw kids up, selfish parents do.

I’ve offered my buddies assistance in getting their kids and eliminating child support but I have yet to meet one who didn’t back out once I told them that they can’t take off to vegas every other weekend with their new girlfriend that is half their age, that they wont see Vegas or twenty year olds naked for years, that’s where they start to twitch and I start to realize that they just want to be victims and complain about the money, screw em!!!

I am not on this soapbox looking for sympathy, I like getting a new girlfriend every two months, about the time they grow tired of being second fiddle i grow tired of them, it’s symbiotic.

Marion,I’m afraid the money is going to end but you will get a judgement and at some point you will get paid, the reality is that his line of work is over and it sounds like he jumped on the bandwagon with few skills and is exactly who will be shaken out. The birthday inflatable jumper business is not a road paved with gold either, you may have to start planning now on making it on your own but in the end you will be happier that you did and your kids will be proud of you even if Dr. Laura isn’t.

P.S. I do specialize in consoling divorcees and attending to their needs, so when the pressures seem to be too much to bear, you let ole TG know, he’s always here to help. I’m like a superhero that way.

[temeculaguy]

Sorry gang, been busy lately and I am late to this party. This whole thread is suspicious, I think my good friend and former boss is pretending to be Marion just to get me to write more since she complained recenlty that my posts are sparce lately. It’s too obvious, lives in Murrieta just a few miles away, has a deadbeat out of state ex who wont be slashing my tires, sounds hot, can cook, probably mid thirties to early forties, long dark hair, I feel like a mouse staring at the cheese on a moustrap thinking “cheese, my favorite, no wait, this is too perfect, who puts a perfectly good piece of cheese on the floor?” Other than the fit, size six part (built for comfort not speed is more my style, Tg likes the curves) there’s nothing to convince me that this isn’t a setup. O.K. I’ll bite.

On the off chance that marion is real, I am ashamed of my fellow testicle owners who are lambasting this woman for seeking money. What kind of a man moves to a state that is nowhere near his children. There’s a perfectly good way to avoid child support, change your life to have your kids at least half of the time. Real men raise their own children, anyone else isn’t qualified to drink with me. Almost every social ill can be traced back to men who spawn and move on. I read the posts of those who have sympathy for their bretheren who pay hefty child support bills but you only have half the story. I know those guys too and they ask me why I pay nothing, the secret, get the kids. Don’t just get them, parent them, do homework with them every night, never get a babysitter on Friday night, just hang with them. Never let them meet the latest love interest or even know about her, miss every social event, wedding, party, etc. just to be a parent. Lose every girlfriend because you won’t talk on the phone while you with your kids and you won’t run off for the weekend. Make less money, miss promotions because soccer practice is more important. The point is, make sacrifices to be the best dad you can be, you signed on the dotted line, now honor that. Go Kramer v. Kramer on her ass and get half if not more of their time and don’t just sit there while you have them like it is an obligation, it should be the part you look forward to. Do that and no Judge will take them away and you wont pay a dime. Better yet, they will actually be normal kids. Divorce doesn’t screw kids up, selfish parents do.

I’ve offered my buddies assistance in getting their kids and eliminating child support but I have yet to meet one who didn’t back out once I told them that they can’t take off to vegas every other weekend with their new girlfriend that is half their age, that they wont see Vegas or twenty year olds naked for years, that’s where they start to twitch and I start to realize that they just want to be victims and complain about the money, screw em!!!

I am not on this soapbox looking for sympathy, I like getting a new girlfriend every two months, about the time they grow tired of being second fiddle i grow tired of them, it’s symbiotic.

Marion,I’m afraid the money is going to end but you will get a judgement and at some point you will get paid, the reality is that his line of work is over and it sounds like he jumped on the bandwagon with few skills and is exactly who will be shaken out. The birthday inflatable jumper business is not a road paved with gold either, you may have to start planning now on making it on your own but in the end you will be happier that you did and your kids will be proud of you even if Dr. Laura isn’t.

P.S. I do specialize in consoling divorcees and attending to their needs, so when the pressures seem to be too much to bear, you let ole TG know, he’s always here to help. I’m like a superhero that way.

[temeculaguy]

Sorry gang, been busy lately and I am late to this party. This whole thread is suspicious, I think my good friend and former boss is pretending to be Marion just to get me to write more since she complained recenlty that my posts are sparce lately. It’s too obvious, lives in Murrieta just a few miles away, has a deadbeat out of state ex who wont be slashing my tires, sounds hot, can cook, probably mid thirties to early forties, long dark hair, I feel like a mouse staring at the cheese on a moustrap thinking “cheese, my favorite, no wait, this is too perfect, who puts a perfectly good piece of cheese on the floor?” Other than the fit, size six part (built for comfort not speed is more my style, Tg likes the curves) there’s nothing to convince me that this isn’t a setup. O.K. I’ll bite.

On the off chance that marion is real, I am ashamed of my fellow testicle owners who are lambasting this woman for seeking money. What kind of a man moves to a state that is nowhere near his children. There’s a perfectly good way to avoid child support, change your life to have your kids at least half of the time. Real men raise their own children, anyone else isn’t qualified to drink with me. Almost every social ill can be traced back to men who spawn and move on. I read the posts of those who have sympathy for their bretheren who pay hefty child support bills but you only have half the story. I know those guys too and they ask me why I pay nothing, the secret, get the kids. Don’t just get them, parent them, do homework with them every night, never get a babysitter on Friday night, just hang with them. Never let them meet the latest love interest or even know about her, miss every social event, wedding, party, etc. just to be a parent. Lose every girlfriend because you won’t talk on the phone while you with your kids and you won’t run off for the weekend. Make less money, miss promotions because soccer practice is more important. The point is, make sacrifices to be the best dad you can be, you signed on the dotted line, now honor that. Go Kramer v. Kramer on her ass and get half if not more of their time and don’t just sit there while you have them like it is an obligation, it should be the part you look forward to. Do that and no Judge will take them away and you wont pay a dime. Better yet, they will actually be normal kids. Divorce doesn’t screw kids up, selfish parents do.

I’ve offered my buddies assistance in getting their kids and eliminating child support but I have yet to meet one who didn’t back out once I told them that they can’t take off to vegas every other weekend with their new girlfriend that is half their age, that they wont see Vegas or twenty year olds naked for years, that’s where they start to twitch and I start to realize that they just want to be victims and complain about the money, screw em!!!

I am not on this soapbox looking for sympathy, I like getting a new girlfriend every two months, about the time they grow tired of being second fiddle i grow tired of them, it’s symbiotic.

Marion,I’m afraid the money is going to end but you will get a judgement and at some point you will get paid, the reality is that his line of work is over and it sounds like he jumped on the bandwagon with few skills and is exactly who will be shaken out. The birthday inflatable jumper business is not a road paved with gold either, you may have to start planning now on making it on your own but in the end you will be happier that you did and your kids will be proud of you even if Dr. Laura isn’t.

P.S. I do specialize in consoling divorcees and attending to their needs, so when the pressures seem to be too much to bear, you let ole TG know, he’s always here to help. I’m like a superhero that way.

[Anonymous]

If you’ve got two degrees, why do you need alimony? You should be able to get a job like the rest of us and support yourself.

[Anonymous]

If you’ve got two degrees, why do you need alimony? You should be able to get a job like the rest of us and support yourself.

[Anonymous]

If you’ve got two degrees, why do you need alimony? You should be able to get a job like the rest of us and support yourself.

[Anonymous]

If you’ve got two degrees, why do you need alimony? You should be able to get a job like the rest of us and support yourself.

[Anonymous]

If you’ve got two degrees, why do you need alimony? You should be able to get a job like the rest of us and support yourself.

[Coronita]

You aren't a wuss for worrying about your kid or wanting to spend time with him or her. I think it's admirable that outsourcing child care and raising a child to others bothers you. Where did we ever get the notion that hired help is what a child deserves?

What bothers me about the other side of the argument is that it seems to say the hell with the kids. As if their care and nurturing wasn't worth anything in their view if and when it comes time to pay for it after divorcing. They see no value in caring for a child, nor do they understand that the child's care most likely came along with compromising earnings, future job possibilities, retirement funding, etc. for the parent who stayed at home or cut corners to be the primary care giver. To me the wuss is the one who won't cut corners to care for the child they created or whine that the other parent who did, doesn't deserve a damn thing for doing so.

 

I'm finding out the hard way that

1) Social Stigma: Stay at home Dad == bad idea

2) Stay At Home Mom == Wife would go insane.

We don't look down on people who are stay at home parents. Quite contrary, it's not that easy to do. And as much as I love my wife, there are days I think, damnit, things would be easier if she just wanted to stay home. But at the same time I understand that that's just how she was brought up to be independent. She would feel useless if that was the only thing she did.

I think my wife and are managing reasonably well. Not ideal, but ok. Plus i really don't want to get the inlaws involved.

So for the time being my weekday routine is

6:15am-7am: Dad wakes up, checks the stock market. Places whatever market orders for that day.

7am-9am: Child wakes up. Mom takes care of changing child. Nanny preps breakfast. Mom and Dad Family spends time with child in the park, no tv. Wife goes to work around 8:30, while dad waits until 9.

9:30-12pm: Dad and mom work while live in nanny takes care of child, who btw, keeps the damn tv on all day. Dad schedules meetings around 9:30am so he can take it on a cell phone on at home or on the way to work (yes I have a handsfree bluetooth kit in my car so I'm not one of those retarded people doing 40mph on I-56)

12-1pm: lunch break with child (me or wife and not all the time)

1-5:30pm: both of us work while nanny puts child to sleep for about 2-3 hours. Somewhere along the line, during free time, I close any stock orders on a need basis. Child wakes up around 5, and nanny gives child a bath and preps for dinner.

5:30pm: Wife gets home and spends time with child while nanny preps dinner. Nanny finishes dinner.

6:30-7:30 I get home. Family dinner time.

7:30-8:30 Nanny cleans up, dismissed for the day. Family time spent in the park

8:30-9:00 Bedtime reading and play time, no tv.

9:00 pm child put sent to bed. Dad rests with Mom until Mom falls asleep.

10:00 pm-2am Dad spends time catching up with work, blogging, looking at porn, and any leftover time spent time building company with other people so he doesn't have to continue in the bored as hell rat race moving forward.

 

The deal with my wife is either

1) I find a job that brings in a gross household income of $300k/year and she'll consider quiting… That frankly won't happen by me trying to climb an existing corporate ladder….

2) OR she gets laid off/fired at which point she'll won't re-enter the engineering space (also highly unlikely).

3) OR I figure out a way to have a company that she can be a part of on a part-time basis such that she could be challenged. Together with investments, bring $300k/year.

So we're planning for plan 3 right now. The ridiculous thing about this one would conclude, fvck, that's a pretty messed up family. You guys spend and spend and spend, don't save, and are complaining. Why don't you downsize your lifestyle, be more frugale, and your wife wouldn't need to work? Contrary, we are pretty frugale, we don't spend alot, cash flow is very positive each month, and overall investments are ok. Go figure.

The problem you have sometimes marrying someone with career objectives too much like you…is that they think too much like you….You both end up being pigheaded on the same things. It's pretty frickin scary when your wife goes to sleep talking with you about some code defect she found at work and you could totally relate and talk about it or if your wife asked you to help do a code review over dinner.

[Coronita]

You aren't a wuss for worrying about your kid or wanting to spend time with him or her. I think it's admirable that outsourcing child care and raising a child to others bothers you. Where did we ever get the notion that hired help is what a child deserves?

What bothers me about the other side of the argument is that it seems to say the hell with the kids. As if their care and nurturing wasn't worth anything in their view if and when it comes time to pay for it after divorcing. They see no value in caring for a child, nor do they understand that the child's care most likely came along with compromising earnings, future job possibilities, retirement funding, etc. for the parent who stayed at home or cut corners to be the primary care giver. To me the wuss is the one who won't cut corners to care for the child they created or whine that the other parent who did, doesn't deserve a damn thing for doing so.

 

I'm finding out the hard way that

1) Social Stigma: Stay at home Dad == bad idea

2) Stay At Home Mom == Wife would go insane.

We don't look down on people who are stay at home parents. Quite contrary, it's not that easy to do. And as much as I love my wife, there are days I think, damnit, things would be easier if she just wanted to stay home. But at the same time I understand that that's just how she was brought up to be independent. She would feel useless if that was the only thing she did.

I think my wife and are managing reasonably well. Not ideal, but ok. Plus i really don't want to get the inlaws involved.

So for the time being my weekday routine is

6:15am-7am: Dad wakes up, checks the stock market. Places whatever market orders for that day.

7am-9am: Child wakes up. Mom takes care of changing child. Nanny preps breakfast. Mom and Dad Family spends time with child in the park, no tv. Wife goes to work around 8:30, while dad waits until 9.

9:30-12pm: Dad and mom work while live in nanny takes care of child, who btw, keeps the damn tv on all day. Dad schedules meetings around 9:30am so he can take it on a cell phone on at home or on the way to work (yes I have a handsfree bluetooth kit in my car so I'm not one of those retarded people doing 40mph on I-56)

12-1pm: lunch break with child (me or wife and not all the time)

1-5:30pm: both of us work while nanny puts child to sleep for about 2-3 hours. Somewhere along the line, during free time, I close any stock orders on a need basis. Child wakes up around 5, and nanny gives child a bath and preps for dinner.

5:30pm: Wife gets home and spends time with child while nanny preps dinner. Nanny finishes dinner.

6:30-7:30 I get home. Family dinner time.

7:30-8:30 Nanny cleans up, dismissed for the day. Family time spent in the park

8:30-9:00 Bedtime reading and play time, no tv.

9:00 pm child put sent to bed. Dad rests with Mom until Mom falls asleep.

10:00 pm-2am Dad spends time catching up with work, blogging, looking at porn, and any leftover time spent time building company with other people so he doesn't have to continue in the bored as hell rat race moving forward.

 

The deal with my wife is either

1) I find a job that brings in a gross household income of $300k/year and she'll consider quiting… That frankly won't happen by me trying to climb an existing corporate ladder….

2) OR she gets laid off/fired at which point she'll won't re-enter the engineering space (also highly unlikely).

3) OR I figure out a way to have a company that she can be a part of on a part-time basis such that she could be challenged. Together with investments, bring $300k/year.

So we're planning for plan 3 right now. The ridiculous thing about this one would conclude, fvck, that's a pretty messed up family. You guys spend and spend and spend, don't save, and are complaining. Why don't you downsize your lifestyle, be more frugale, and your wife wouldn't need to work? Contrary, we are pretty frugale, we don't spend alot, cash flow is very positive each month, and overall investments are ok. Go figure.

The problem you have sometimes marrying someone with career objectives too much like you…is that they think too much like you….You both end up being pigheaded on the same things. It's pretty frickin scary when your wife goes to sleep talking with you about some code defect she found at work and you could totally relate and talk about it or if your wife asked you to help do a code review over dinner.

[Coronita]

You aren't a wuss for worrying about your kid or wanting to spend time with him or her. I think it's admirable that outsourcing child care and raising a child to others bothers you. Where did we ever get the notion that hired help is what a child deserves?

What bothers me about the other side of the argument is that it seems to say the hell with the kids. As if their care and nurturing wasn't worth anything in their view if and when it comes time to pay for it after divorcing. They see no value in caring for a child, nor do they understand that the child's care most likely came along with compromising earnings, future job possibilities, retirement funding, etc. for the parent who stayed at home or cut corners to be the primary care giver. To me the wuss is the one who won't cut corners to care for the child they created or whine that the other parent who did, doesn't deserve a damn thing for doing so.

 

I'm finding out the hard way that

1) Social Stigma: Stay at home Dad == bad idea

2) Stay At Home Mom == Wife would go insane.

We don't look down on people who are stay at home parents. Quite contrary, it's not that easy to do. And as much as I love my wife, there are days I think, damnit, things would be easier if she just wanted to stay home. But at the same time I understand that that's just how she was brought up to be independent. She would feel useless if that was the only thing she did.

I think my wife and are managing reasonably well. Not ideal, but ok. Plus i really don't want to get the inlaws involved.

So for the time being my weekday routine is

6:15am-7am: Dad wakes up, checks the stock market. Places whatever market orders for that day.

7am-9am: Child wakes up. Mom takes care of changing child. Nanny preps breakfast. Mom and Dad Family spends time with child in the park, no tv. Wife goes to work around 8:30, while dad waits until 9.

9:30-12pm: Dad and mom work while live in nanny takes care of child, who btw, keeps the damn tv on all day. Dad schedules meetings around 9:30am so he can take it on a cell phone on at home or on the way to work (yes I have a handsfree bluetooth kit in my car so I'm not one of those retarded people doing 40mph on I-56)

12-1pm: lunch break with child (me or wife and not all the time)

1-5:30pm: both of us work while nanny puts child to sleep for about 2-3 hours. Somewhere along the line, during free time, I close any stock orders on a need basis. Child wakes up around 5, and nanny gives child a bath and preps for dinner.

5:30pm: Wife gets home and spends time with child while nanny preps dinner. Nanny finishes dinner.

6:30-7:30 I get home. Family dinner time.

7:30-8:30 Nanny cleans up, dismissed for the day. Family time spent in the park

8:30-9:00 Bedtime reading and play time, no tv.

9:00 pm child put sent to bed. Dad rests with Mom until Mom falls asleep.

10:00 pm-2am Dad spends time catching up with work, blogging, looking at porn, and any leftover time spent time building company with other people so he doesn't have to continue in the bored as hell rat race moving forward.

 

The deal with my wife is either

1) I find a job that brings in a gross household income of $300k/year and she'll consider quiting… That frankly won't happen by me trying to climb an existing corporate ladder….

2) OR she gets laid off/fired at which point she'll won't re-enter the engineering space (also highly unlikely).

3) OR I figure out a way to have a company that she can be a part of on a part-time basis such that she could be challenged. Together with investments, bring $300k/year.

So we're planning for plan 3 right now. The ridiculous thing about this one would conclude, fvck, that's a pretty messed up family. You guys spend and spend and spend, don't save, and are complaining. Why don't you downsize your lifestyle, be more frugale, and your wife wouldn't need to work? Contrary, we are pretty frugale, we don't spend alot, cash flow is very positive each month, and overall investments are ok. Go figure.

The problem you have sometimes marrying someone with career objectives too much like you…is that they think too much like you….You both end up being pigheaded on the same things. It's pretty frickin scary when your wife goes to sleep talking with you about some code defect she found at work and you could totally relate and talk about it or if your wife asked you to help do a code review over dinner.

[Coronita]

You aren't a wuss for worrying about your kid or wanting to spend time with him or her. I think it's admirable that outsourcing child care and raising a child to others bothers you. Where did we ever get the notion that hired help is what a child deserves?

What bothers me about the other side of the argument is that it seems to say the hell with the kids. As if their care and nurturing wasn't worth anything in their view if and when it comes time to pay for it after divorcing. They see no value in caring for a child, nor do they understand that the child's care most likely came along with compromising earnings, future job possibilities, retirement funding, etc. for the parent who stayed at home or cut corners to be the primary care giver. To me the wuss is the one who won't cut corners to care for the child they created or whine that the other parent who did, doesn't deserve a damn thing for doing so.

 

I'm finding out the hard way that

1) Social Stigma: Stay at home Dad == bad idea

2) Stay At Home Mom == Wife would go insane.

We don't look down on people who are stay at home parents. Quite contrary, it's not that easy to do. And as much as I love my wife, there are days I think, damnit, things would be easier if she just wanted to stay home. But at the same time I understand that that's just how she was brought up to be independent. She would feel useless if that was the only thing she did.

I think my wife and are managing reasonably well. Not ideal, but ok. Plus i really don't want to get the inlaws involved.

So for the time being my weekday routine is

6:15am-7am: Dad wakes up, checks the stock market. Places whatever market orders for that day.

7am-9am: Child wakes up. Mom takes care of changing child. Nanny preps breakfast. Mom and Dad Family spends time with child in the park, no tv. Wife goes to work around 8:30, while dad waits until 9.

9:30-12pm: Dad and mom work while live in nanny takes care of child, who btw, keeps the damn tv on all day. Dad schedules meetings around 9:30am so he can take it on a cell phone on at home or on the way to work (yes I have a handsfree bluetooth kit in my car so I'm not one of those retarded people doing 40mph on I-56)

12-1pm: lunch break with child (me or wife and not all the time)

1-5:30pm: both of us work while nanny puts child to sleep for about 2-3 hours. Somewhere along the line, during free time, I close any stock orders on a need basis. Child wakes up around 5, and nanny gives child a bath and preps for dinner.

5:30pm: Wife gets home and spends time with child while nanny preps dinner. Nanny finishes dinner.

6:30-7:30 I get home. Family dinner time.

7:30-8:30 Nanny cleans up, dismissed for the day. Family time spent in the park

8:30-9:00 Bedtime reading and play time, no tv.

9:00 pm child put sent to bed. Dad rests with Mom until Mom falls asleep.

10:00 pm-2am Dad spends time catching up with work, blogging, looking at porn, and any leftover time spent time building company with other people so he doesn't have to continue in the bored as hell rat race moving forward.

 

The deal with my wife is either

1) I find a job that brings in a gross household income of $300k/year and she'll consider quiting… That frankly won't happen by me trying to climb an existing corporate ladder….

2) OR she gets laid off/fired at which point she'll won't re-enter the engineering space (also highly unlikely).

3) OR I figure out a way to have a company that she can be a part of on a part-time basis such that she could be challenged. Together with investments, bring $300k/year.

So we're planning for plan 3 right now. The ridiculous thing about this one would conclude, fvck, that's a pretty messed up family. You guys spend and spend and spend, don't save, and are complaining. Why don't you downsize your lifestyle, be more frugale, and your wife wouldn't need to work? Contrary, we are pretty frugale, we don't spend alot, cash flow is very positive each month, and overall investments are ok. Go figure.

The problem you have sometimes marrying someone with career objectives too much like you…is that they think too much like you….You both end up being pigheaded on the same things. It's pretty frickin scary when your wife goes to sleep talking with you about some code defect she found at work and you could totally relate and talk about it or if your wife asked you to help do a code review over dinner.

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