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March 27, 2012 at 10:49 AM #740606March 27, 2012 at 12:51 PM #740613
Myriad
ParticipantHah, good swipe at PG&E. I like how the website shows how you can cook the product with fresh chicken breasts. Where are you going to find those if you’re eating into your 1 year’s supply?
Does Costco see fallout shelters too?
March 27, 2012 at 1:03 PM #740615Ren
ParticipantBoth our financial and apocalyptic safe spot (barring Russian nuke attack) is outside Phoenix AZ, for now. We could survive there without income indefinitely, and that’s where our conservative, military, armed-to-the-teeth relatives are.
No preparation here, other than a big water reserve.
March 27, 2012 at 1:17 PM #740616Diego Mamani
Participant[quote=UCGal]Please don’t edit my posts when you quote me.[/quote]
I apologize for the edit, UCGal. Your original text said “a years supply” which should have been “a year’s supply.” The lack of apostrophe made me think that the “4” had been accidentally dropped, especially since you went to explain that the Costco item would be good for four years. My bad.March 27, 2012 at 1:36 PM #740619Participant[quote=UCGal]I said they need to stock up on a year of food.[/quote]
Leaving grammar aside, 4 years or 1 year of food, either way, I think it’s overkill![quote=flu]Lol… Check out the “survival food” section at costco…[/quote]
It’s scary to me that there are so many people out there concerned about armageddon and the “end of the world” that even Costco caters to them. There’s too much fanaticism in this country! Foreigners nearly pee in their pants when they read about this type of behavior. Rationally and logically speaking, a few days’ supply (not “days supply”) would be enough for all likely emergencies.[quote=UCGal]Interesting… I looked at some of the vendors… and I think I’m on to something with the LDS thing. (…) 3 of the 4 vendors are based in Utah…[/quote]
Oregon doesn’t have a lot of Mormons, but it’s next door to Idaho (second highest Mormon percentage of state population at 27%) and not too far from Utah (72% Mormon). You’re absolutely right about the LDS thing!March 27, 2012 at 2:43 PM #740625
CoronitaParticipant[quote=Diego Mamani][quote=UCGal]I said they need to stock up on a year of food.[/quote]
Leaving grammar aside, 4 years or 1 year of food, either way, I think it’s overkill![quote=flu]Lol… Check out the “survival food” section at costco…[/quote]
It’s scary to me that there are so many people out there concerned about armageddon and the “end of the world” that even Costco caters to them. There’s too much fanaticism in this country! Foreigners nearly pee in their pants when they read about this type of behavior. Rationally and logically speaking, a few days’ supply (not “days supply”) would be enough for all likely emergencies.[quote=UCGal]Interesting… I looked at some of the vendors… and I think I’m on to something with the LDS thing. (…) 3 of the 4 vendors are based in Utah…[/quote]
Oregon doesn’t have a lot of Mormons, but it’s next door to Idaho (second highest Mormon percentage of state population at 27%) and not too far from Utah (72% Mormon). You’re absolutely right about the LDS thing![/quote]Costco isn’t catering to them directly. What they are doing is trying to maximize profits. These companies probably have a huge margins and are probably paying costco hefty to sell them, and given the trend, there is probably a market for them. Costco will sell just about anything that is trendy.
March 27, 2012 at 2:51 PM #740629CoronitaParticipant[quote=Myriad]Hah, good swipe at PG&E. I like how the website shows how you can cook the product with fresh chicken breasts. Where are you going to find those if you’re eating into your 1 year’s supply?
Does Costco see fallout shelters too?[/quote]
Well, they sell an instant hot water shower…
Emergency solar power
http://www.costco.com/Browse/Product.aspx?prodid=11678385&whse=BC&topnav=&cm_sp=RichRelevance-_-itempageVerticalRight-_-PopularProductsInCategory&cm_vc=itempageVerticalRight|PopularProductsInCategory
Emergency shovels
Emergency backpack kit
Lots of portable generators
Lots of emergency storage containers
http://www.costco.com/Browse/Product.aspx?prodid=11756134&whse=BC&topnav=&cm_sp=RichRelevance-_-itempageVerticalRight-_-PopularProductsInCategory&cm_vc=itempageVerticalRight|PopularProductsInCategory
Emergency garden seeds
Emergency Water storage…
http://www.costco.com/Common/Search.aspx?whse=BC&topnav=&search=water%20storage&N=0&Ntt=water%20storage&cm_re=1_en-_-Top_Left_Nav-_-Top_search&lang=en-USMarch 27, 2012 at 3:30 PM #7406328bitnintendo
ParticipantI have not planned for a complete breakdown of society because I do not view that as being sufficiently likely to happen that it is worth the opportunity cost of planning for it. I prepare for things that I think are reasonably likely to happen (currently a very fuzzy assessment.) So far that includes:
1. Backed-up data including scans of vital documents in case of disk crash/break-in/fire/etc.
2. Basic necessities bag (essentially, several days of clothing/toiletries, cash, spare credit card, vital docs, etc.) in case I have to grab something on the way out the door when the apartment is on fire.
3. Having ~2 weeks of water, food, fuel, lighting in case of an earthquake/other disaster significant enough to cause loss of services for a lengthy period of time.
I also have lots of camping/backpacking supplies, firearms, ammo etc. on hand, but they were not purchased as disaster preparedness items. I am also a dual citizen and my overseas half of the family does a pretty balanced mix of farming (gardening, chickens, sheep, deer, lobster & some lumber; the fishing is also pretty good there) so if it were a slow collapse I guess I could go there.
March 27, 2012 at 3:34 PM #740633sdrealtor
ParticipantToo busy prepping for dinner
March 27, 2012 at 7:05 PM #740640Arraya
Participant[quote=UCGal]oartypup left the building for her ranch in another state a while back. With her gold/silver/guns/farming supplies. She was the biggest doomsayer.
Arraya is still here. Still predicting a dramatic change.
Both are/were interesting to read.
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Well, at least we’re interesting.
PP had an interestng take, though it was lacking an academic/historical perspective. She was stuck in the secret cabal planning evil deeds which has a little truthieness to it yet at the same time irrelevent. There are plenty of social scientists throughout academia with studies on societal collapse/evolution. Hell, history is littered with failed systems so we have plenty to study. Couple that with the ample scientific data on the earths physical systems degradation. You add it all up and say – it’s fucking over. The truth is we don’t know what we are doing.
Though, this setting up a “doomstead” with solar panels and a bomb shelter is, IMO, a product of the hyper-individualistic capitalist mind. People seem to find easier to imagine the end of the world than the end of capitalism. They think if modern-industrial society malfunctions people are going to turn into brain-hungry zombies. Zero faith in humanity.
Dwight from the office gets it,
March 27, 2012 at 8:12 PM #740642Reality
Participant[quote=sdrealtor][quote=flu][quote=sdrealtor]me neither. Bought into stock market on the dip Thursday and up a few percent already on that buy. Heading out to party tonite:)[/quote]
traitor![/quote]
Lol……nah it’s my IRA money. I jump in and out grabbing gains of 3 to 10% each time. I look for the right set up and do it 2 or 3 times a year. I have no risk tolerance for riding long term. I wait for a pull back jump all in and back out in no more than a week or two. Have been doing this since 07 and averaging 10 to 20% returns every year since without a single down year. I do what works me.[/quote]
Looks like BS. Explain how that strategy worked in 2008.
March 27, 2012 at 8:39 PM #740643
svelteParticipantI’m flirtin’ with disaster, babe, ya’ll know what I mean
The way we run our lives it makes no sense to me
I don’t know about yourself or what you wanna be
When we gamble with our time we choose our destinyYou can learn all you ever need in life from Rock.
March 27, 2012 at 9:46 PM #740646Participant[quote=JohnAlt91941][quote=sdrealtor][quote=flu][quote=sdrealtor]me neither. Bought into stock market on the dip Thursday and up a few percent already on that buy. Heading out to party tonite:)[/quote]
traitor![/quote]
Lol……nah it’s my IRA money. I jump in and out grabbing gains of 3 to 10% each time. I look for the right set up and do it 2 or 3 times a year. I have no risk tolerance for riding long term. I wait for a pull back jump all in and back out in no more than a week or two. Have been doing this since 07 and averaging 10 to 20% returns every year since without a single down year. I do what works me.[/quote]
Looks like BS. Explain how that strategy worked in 2008.[/quote]
No problem. I went all cash around July 2007 with the S&P around 1500. I sat that way until late 2008 when the S&P went down around 800. I went all in and got out around 900 a couple weeks later. That was my only trade in 2008.
March 28, 2012 at 10:02 AM #740665Anonymous
GuestWas he looking at his broker account statement or a historical chart of the market when he wrote that summary of events?
We will never know…
March 28, 2012 at 10:29 AM #740666ParticipantOf course you wont but FWIW I went online and checked the brokers historical record of transactions.
With all that said I missed much of the run up early this year and will freely admit it. I dont ride the market anymore. I get in and out quickly taking modest profits each time. My financial plan is based up 8 to 10% annual returns on this portfolio. I try to grab 2 to 5% momementum trades when I see the proper set up. While I have far exceeded the 8 to 10% goal I dont sweat for a second some of the chances I have passed up.
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