How do I go about investigating this?

[Anonymous]

I can assure you it is a scam.

This is from another one of his “investors”
The promisory notes are absolutely useless.

He doesn’t even bother sending them out in a timely fashion anymore. Don’t bother trying to get your capital back… he will tell you the check is in the mail… but strangely enough it never materializes.

The Thunderblaze website is already gone.
The Starfireus.com site is just a shell to show prospective investors that there seems to be a real business. Take a closer look… the parts catalog has a really strange flaw… No matter what parts number you enter… it will never come up with anything… when you look behind it… you find that it is just a blank page. There is no catalog attached.

All addresses seem to have the same phone number.

Google the Vista Ca. address and/or use Zillow to look at that house… nice mansion, big swimming pool but there is not a single shop building in sight. The other one… is a house in the middle of a regular single family zoned subdivision… no way there is any “machining” going on here in the backyard. The Carlsbad addresses aren’t any better. Just getting closer to the mexican boarder?

The site for starfire is

Starfireus.com – go there and try to get into the parts catalogue…

reverse searches for the phone number… can land you at a golf course… his favorite site for doing “business” with his cell phone.

P.S. The actual Starfire Co. that has ties to Boeing is out of Malta NY…. They are into nanotechnology and have no idea that their name is being used in a Ponzi Scheme in California.

That is what it really is… and one that doesn’t bother to keep the “image” going anymore.

This has been going on for years… he used to not bother with you unless you brought 50K to the table minimum…

About the only thing I can suggest… all the Investors that come across this post… Start posting here. Don’t bother feeling stupid…
It is even dumber not to get together and get to know each other…

We have to make a complaint… all of us together, at once… to the District Attorneys Office.
Each one of you… already has enough info to nail this Ponzi scheme.

[temeculaguy]

This thread jumped back up and since I didn’t pay much attention to it when it was hot, I read the whole thing. Now that the website is down, it’s obvious that is was a scam, but it should have been obvious all along. Can I point out the lesson here? Piggies are pretty smart folk, props to pri_dk for calling Sarah out for who she is and props to all the others that brought it. If you are a spammer or have an business interest that is being attacked or questioned, let me warn you, and heed this warning. You might be smarter than most or all of the people that you encounter in life and online, but that shit won’t work here. Together, and probably individually, we are smarter than you, if you you were all that, you wouldn’t need to deceive. You might think that you will create a screen name and play along awhile, then when you are trusted, you can pull the wool over some people’s eyes. My warning, It’s better to just avoid this place, it doesn’t work, because there is no collection online that I am aware of that is dominated by such intelligent minds, rabid researchers and outright cynics. These are the few folks who don’t drink koolaid, we attack each other for smelling koolaid or even admiring the pretty colors, your jedi mind tricks will not work here and if it were a twilight zone episode, we figured out that it is a cookbook. As a gentleman, I’ll refrain from making threats to sarah or anyone contemplating a similar stunt, let me just say that would be bad.

[temeculaguy]

This thread jumped back up and since I didn’t pay much attention to it when it was hot, I read the whole thing. Now that the website is down, it’s obvious that is was a scam, but it should have been obvious all along. Can I point out the lesson here? Piggies are pretty smart folk, props to pri_dk for calling Sarah out for who she is and props to all the others that brought it. If you are a spammer or have an business interest that is being attacked or questioned, let me warn you, and heed this warning. You might be smarter than most or all of the people that you encounter in life and online, but that shit won’t work here. Together, and probably individually, we are smarter than you, if you you were all that, you wouldn’t need to deceive. You might think that you will create a screen name and play along awhile, then when you are trusted, you can pull the wool over some people’s eyes. My warning, It’s better to just avoid this place, it doesn’t work, because there is no collection online that I am aware of that is dominated by such intelligent minds, rabid researchers and outright cynics. These are the few folks who don’t drink koolaid, we attack each other for smelling koolaid or even admiring the pretty colors, your jedi mind tricks will not work here and if it were a twilight zone episode, we figured out that it is a cookbook. As a gentleman, I’ll refrain from making threats to sarah or anyone contemplating a similar stunt, let me just say that would be bad.

[temeculaguy]

This thread jumped back up and since I didn’t pay much attention to it when it was hot, I read the whole thing. Now that the website is down, it’s obvious that is was a scam, but it should have been obvious all along. Can I point out the lesson here? Piggies are pretty smart folk, props to pri_dk for calling Sarah out for who she is and props to all the others that brought it. If you are a spammer or have an business interest that is being attacked or questioned, let me warn you, and heed this warning. You might be smarter than most or all of the people that you encounter in life and online, but that shit won’t work here. Together, and probably individually, we are smarter than you, if you you were all that, you wouldn’t need to deceive. You might think that you will create a screen name and play along awhile, then when you are trusted, you can pull the wool over some people’s eyes. My warning, It’s better to just avoid this place, it doesn’t work, because there is no collection online that I am aware of that is dominated by such intelligent minds, rabid researchers and outright cynics. These are the few folks who don’t drink koolaid, we attack each other for smelling koolaid or even admiring the pretty colors, your jedi mind tricks will not work here and if it were a twilight zone episode, we figured out that it is a cookbook. As a gentleman, I’ll refrain from making threats to sarah or anyone contemplating a similar stunt, let me just say that would be bad.

[temeculaguy]

This thread jumped back up and since I didn’t pay much attention to it when it was hot, I read the whole thing. Now that the website is down, it’s obvious that is was a scam, but it should have been obvious all along. Can I point out the lesson here? Piggies are pretty smart folk, props to pri_dk for calling Sarah out for who she is and props to all the others that brought it. If you are a spammer or have an business interest that is being attacked or questioned, let me warn you, and heed this warning. You might be smarter than most or all of the people that you encounter in life and online, but that shit won’t work here. Together, and probably individually, we are smarter than you, if you you were all that, you wouldn’t need to deceive. You might think that you will create a screen name and play along awhile, then when you are trusted, you can pull the wool over some people’s eyes. My warning, It’s better to just avoid this place, it doesn’t work, because there is no collection online that I am aware of that is dominated by such intelligent minds, rabid researchers and outright cynics. These are the few folks who don’t drink koolaid, we attack each other for smelling koolaid or even admiring the pretty colors, your jedi mind tricks will not work here and if it were a twilight zone episode, we figured out that it is a cookbook. As a gentleman, I’ll refrain from making threats to sarah or anyone contemplating a similar stunt, let me just say that would be bad.

[temeculaguy]

This thread jumped back up and since I didn’t pay much attention to it when it was hot, I read the whole thing. Now that the website is down, it’s obvious that is was a scam, but it should have been obvious all along. Can I point out the lesson here? Piggies are pretty smart folk, props to pri_dk for calling Sarah out for who she is and props to all the others that brought it. If you are a spammer or have an business interest that is being attacked or questioned, let me warn you, and heed this warning. You might be smarter than most or all of the people that you encounter in life and online, but that shit won’t work here. Together, and probably individually, we are smarter than you, if you you were all that, you wouldn’t need to deceive. You might think that you will create a screen name and play along awhile, then when you are trusted, you can pull the wool over some people’s eyes. My warning, It’s better to just avoid this place, it doesn’t work, because there is no collection online that I am aware of that is dominated by such intelligent minds, rabid researchers and outright cynics. These are the few folks who don’t drink koolaid, we attack each other for smelling koolaid or even admiring the pretty colors, your jedi mind tricks will not work here and if it were a twilight zone episode, we figured out that it is a cookbook. As a gentleman, I’ll refrain from making threats to sarah or anyone contemplating a similar stunt, let me just say that would be bad.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

[quote=temeculaguy]This thread jumped back up and since I didn’t pay much attention to it when it was hot, I read the whole thing. Now that the website is down, it’s obvious that is was a scam, but it should have been obvious all along. Can I point out the lesson here? Piggies are pretty smart folk, props to pri_dk for calling Sarah out for who she is and props to all the others that brought it. If you are a spammer or have an business interest that is being attacked or questioned, let me warn you, and heed this warning. You might be smarter than most or all of the people that you encounter in life and online, but that shit won’t work here. Together, and probably individually, we are smarter than you, if you you were all that, you wouldn’t need to deceive. You might think that you will create a screen name and play along awhile, then when you are trusted, you can pull the wool over some people’s eyes. My warning, It’s better to just avoid this place, it doesn’t work, because there is no collection online that I am aware of that is dominated by such intelligent minds, rabid researchers and outright cynics. These are the few folks who don’t drink koolaid, we attack each other for smelling koolaid or even admiring the pretty colors, your jedi mind tricks will not work here and if it were a twilight zone episode, we figured out that it is a cookbook. As a gentleman, I’ll refrain from making threats to sarah or anyone contemplating a similar stunt, let me just say that would be bad.[/quote]

TG: Hoo-ah. In the immortal words of Crash Davis from “Bull Durham”: “C’mon, Meat, throw me that weak ass shit!”.

By the way, I want to congratulate your San Diego Chargers in advance on winning the AFC West Division. Not being sarcastic, but with the absolute helplessness, stupidity and generally boneheaded play of the Raiders, Chiefs and Broncos, I think your boys are a shoo-in.

We know the Raiders and the Chefs, er, Chiefs will find a way to lose, but watching the Broncos come unwrapped and before the first game of the season, was something of a surprise. How long do you think it’ll be before Pat Bowlen REALLY starts missing Shanny the Sheik? I give him till Game Three, tops.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

[quote=temeculaguy]This thread jumped back up and since I didn’t pay much attention to it when it was hot, I read the whole thing. Now that the website is down, it’s obvious that is was a scam, but it should have been obvious all along. Can I point out the lesson here? Piggies are pretty smart folk, props to pri_dk for calling Sarah out for who she is and props to all the others that brought it. If you are a spammer or have an business interest that is being attacked or questioned, let me warn you, and heed this warning. You might be smarter than most or all of the people that you encounter in life and online, but that shit won’t work here. Together, and probably individually, we are smarter than you, if you you were all that, you wouldn’t need to deceive. You might think that you will create a screen name and play along awhile, then when you are trusted, you can pull the wool over some people’s eyes. My warning, It’s better to just avoid this place, it doesn’t work, because there is no collection online that I am aware of that is dominated by such intelligent minds, rabid researchers and outright cynics. These are the few folks who don’t drink koolaid, we attack each other for smelling koolaid or even admiring the pretty colors, your jedi mind tricks will not work here and if it were a twilight zone episode, we figured out that it is a cookbook. As a gentleman, I’ll refrain from making threats to sarah or anyone contemplating a similar stunt, let me just say that would be bad.[/quote]

TG: Hoo-ah. In the immortal words of Crash Davis from “Bull Durham”: “C’mon, Meat, throw me that weak ass shit!”.

By the way, I want to congratulate your San Diego Chargers in advance on winning the AFC West Division. Not being sarcastic, but with the absolute helplessness, stupidity and generally boneheaded play of the Raiders, Chiefs and Broncos, I think your boys are a shoo-in.

We know the Raiders and the Chefs, er, Chiefs will find a way to lose, but watching the Broncos come unwrapped and before the first game of the season, was something of a surprise. How long do you think it’ll be before Pat Bowlen REALLY starts missing Shanny the Sheik? I give him till Game Three, tops.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

[quote=temeculaguy]This thread jumped back up and since I didn’t pay much attention to it when it was hot, I read the whole thing. Now that the website is down, it’s obvious that is was a scam, but it should have been obvious all along. Can I point out the lesson here? Piggies are pretty smart folk, props to pri_dk for calling Sarah out for who she is and props to all the others that brought it. If you are a spammer or have an business interest that is being attacked or questioned, let me warn you, and heed this warning. You might be smarter than most or all of the people that you encounter in life and online, but that shit won’t work here. Together, and probably individually, we are smarter than you, if you you were all that, you wouldn’t need to deceive. You might think that you will create a screen name and play along awhile, then when you are trusted, you can pull the wool over some people’s eyes. My warning, It’s better to just avoid this place, it doesn’t work, because there is no collection online that I am aware of that is dominated by such intelligent minds, rabid researchers and outright cynics. These are the few folks who don’t drink koolaid, we attack each other for smelling koolaid or even admiring the pretty colors, your jedi mind tricks will not work here and if it were a twilight zone episode, we figured out that it is a cookbook. As a gentleman, I’ll refrain from making threats to sarah or anyone contemplating a similar stunt, let me just say that would be bad.[/quote]

TG: Hoo-ah. In the immortal words of Crash Davis from “Bull Durham”: “C’mon, Meat, throw me that weak ass shit!”.

By the way, I want to congratulate your San Diego Chargers in advance on winning the AFC West Division. Not being sarcastic, but with the absolute helplessness, stupidity and generally boneheaded play of the Raiders, Chiefs and Broncos, I think your boys are a shoo-in.

We know the Raiders and the Chefs, er, Chiefs will find a way to lose, but watching the Broncos come unwrapped and before the first game of the season, was something of a surprise. How long do you think it’ll be before Pat Bowlen REALLY starts missing Shanny the Sheik? I give him till Game Three, tops.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

[quote=temeculaguy]This thread jumped back up and since I didn’t pay much attention to it when it was hot, I read the whole thing. Now that the website is down, it’s obvious that is was a scam, but it should have been obvious all along. Can I point out the lesson here? Piggies are pretty smart folk, props to pri_dk for calling Sarah out for who she is and props to all the others that brought it. If you are a spammer or have an business interest that is being attacked or questioned, let me warn you, and heed this warning. You might be smarter than most or all of the people that you encounter in life and online, but that shit won’t work here. Together, and probably individually, we are smarter than you, if you you were all that, you wouldn’t need to deceive. You might think that you will create a screen name and play along awhile, then when you are trusted, you can pull the wool over some people’s eyes. My warning, It’s better to just avoid this place, it doesn’t work, because there is no collection online that I am aware of that is dominated by such intelligent minds, rabid researchers and outright cynics. These are the few folks who don’t drink koolaid, we attack each other for smelling koolaid or even admiring the pretty colors, your jedi mind tricks will not work here and if it were a twilight zone episode, we figured out that it is a cookbook. As a gentleman, I’ll refrain from making threats to sarah or anyone contemplating a similar stunt, let me just say that would be bad.[/quote]

TG: Hoo-ah. In the immortal words of Crash Davis from “Bull Durham”: “C’mon, Meat, throw me that weak ass shit!”.

By the way, I want to congratulate your San Diego Chargers in advance on winning the AFC West Division. Not being sarcastic, but with the absolute helplessness, stupidity and generally boneheaded play of the Raiders, Chiefs and Broncos, I think your boys are a shoo-in.

We know the Raiders and the Chefs, er, Chiefs will find a way to lose, but watching the Broncos come unwrapped and before the first game of the season, was something of a surprise. How long do you think it’ll be before Pat Bowlen REALLY starts missing Shanny the Sheik? I give him till Game Three, tops.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

[quote=temeculaguy]This thread jumped back up and since I didn’t pay much attention to it when it was hot, I read the whole thing. Now that the website is down, it’s obvious that is was a scam, but it should have been obvious all along. Can I point out the lesson here? Piggies are pretty smart folk, props to pri_dk for calling Sarah out for who she is and props to all the others that brought it. If you are a spammer or have an business interest that is being attacked or questioned, let me warn you, and heed this warning. You might be smarter than most or all of the people that you encounter in life and online, but that shit won’t work here. Together, and probably individually, we are smarter than you, if you you were all that, you wouldn’t need to deceive. You might think that you will create a screen name and play along awhile, then when you are trusted, you can pull the wool over some people’s eyes. My warning, It’s better to just avoid this place, it doesn’t work, because there is no collection online that I am aware of that is dominated by such intelligent minds, rabid researchers and outright cynics. These are the few folks who don’t drink koolaid, we attack each other for smelling koolaid or even admiring the pretty colors, your jedi mind tricks will not work here and if it were a twilight zone episode, we figured out that it is a cookbook. As a gentleman, I’ll refrain from making threats to sarah or anyone contemplating a similar stunt, let me just say that would be bad.[/quote]

TG: Hoo-ah. In the immortal words of Crash Davis from “Bull Durham”: “C’mon, Meat, throw me that weak ass shit!”.

By the way, I want to congratulate your San Diego Chargers in advance on winning the AFC West Division. Not being sarcastic, but with the absolute helplessness, stupidity and generally boneheaded play of the Raiders, Chiefs and Broncos, I think your boys are a shoo-in.

We know the Raiders and the Chefs, er, Chiefs will find a way to lose, but watching the Broncos come unwrapped and before the first game of the season, was something of a surprise. How long do you think it’ll be before Pat Bowlen REALLY starts missing Shanny the Sheik? I give him till Game Three, tops.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

Dupe.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

Dupe.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

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[Allan from Fallbrook]

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